drumswan wrote: » Those people already have housing.
donegal__road wrote: » There are a lot of young people in Donegal that would stay if they could. There are a lot of vacant properties in Donegal. If there was more employment opportunities, some of these properties could be let out, perhaps with the option to buy if there price were right down the line. If there is a shortage of housing in Dublin, and a glut of vacant houses in the likes of Leitrim and Donegal (coupled with high unemployment)... wouldn't we be killing two birds with one stone by attracting industry to rural Ireland. *I dont buy this 'people dont want to live there'. I know many people from abroad working in Donegal who are planning to stay here.
drumswan wrote: » Our most vibrant sectors are tech, pharma and finance. You are not going to attract highly qualified 20 and 30-somethings to live in Leitrim, there is nothing there.
SEPT 23 1989 wrote: » could we not improve transport links with some of commuter belt towns and finish off those houses?
donegal__road wrote: » If there is a shortage of housing in Dublin, and a glut of vacant houses in the likes of Leitrim and Donegal (coupled with high unemployment)... wouldn't we be killing two birds with one stone by attracting industry to rural Ireland. *I dont buy this 'people dont want to live there'. I know many people from abroad working in Donegal who are planning to stay here.
everdead.ie wrote: » I don't think that is the major problem if the jobs are there they will be filled the major issue is that companies come to Dublin a lot because it's fashionable. Every tech company wants to be a part of the "Silicon Docks" similarily in Finance they want to be part of the IFSC.
Sir Humphrey Appleby wrote: » Many of the empty homes in this country are shoebox apartments , many others are in places people do not want to live.
donegal__road wrote: » plenty of qualified 20 and 30 year olds were attracted to Leitrim when MBNA was at its peak. Carrick on Shannon was a thriving town... and there was plenty to do. The pubs and restaurants were busy most nights of the week, and on weekends you were only 45 minutes from Donegal, or you could go down the Shannon on a houseboat for the weekend. Unfortunately, MBNA scaled down its workforce from 1000 in 2011, to 250 today.
Sir Humphrey Appleby wrote: » Firstly it would be nigh on impossible to get major industries to move to many parts of rural Ireland because of the poor infrastructure (lousy broadband, uncertainty of the security of electricity supplies, the cost of transportation etc) And believe it or not generally, people don't want to live there.
chopper6 wrote: » So there was a "gold rush" and now it's a ghost town? That's the problem with relying solely on foreign multinationals.
donegal__road wrote: » move the jobs to Leitrim and Ballybofey.
Sir Humphrey Appleby wrote: » Empty home does not equal empty houses. Many of the empty homes in this country are shoebox apartments , many others are in places people do not want to live.
everdead.ie wrote: » I don't think that is the major problem if the jobs are there they will be filled the major issue is that companies come to Dublin a lot because it's fashionable.
Every tech company wants to be a part of the "Silicon Docks" similarily in Finance they want to be part of the IFSC.
chopper6 wrote: » Make no mistake...the Govt have learned exactly nothing from the past ten years. They are trying to start another construction boom so they can rake in stamp duty and give us a bone that they will lower taxes.
All they need is for the banks to start lending recklessly once again and we'll be right back to the start.
donegal__road wrote: » First of all, e-fibre has been available
I can see how the infrastructure would be an issue for manufacturing industry, but for tech companies I cant see why it would be an issue.
I don't know what you mean by security of electrical supplies.
I don't know
Pinch Flat wrote: » Yeah, 'cos we all know that construction workers and professionals only build houses.:rolleyes: The construction industry grew into a huge beast that ultimately destroyed the economy, constituting about 30% of GDP at the height of the 'boom'. Residential property was a large element of this. A 'healthy' economy has construction at about 15% of GDP - at present it's in low single figures. There is a bigger picture here in terms of construction activity reflecting general economic recovery and supporting its activities - we will still need pharma plants, warehouses, IT facilities, data centers.....
donegal__road wrote: » yep, Carrick on Shannon did depend on a single multinational which is a mistake... but it didn't deter many young qualified people to move to Leitrim, which was my point.
drunkmonkey wrote: » on one hand we have the Govt planning major drive to create 60,000 construction jobs
chopper6 wrote: » Are they still there?
Dravokivich wrote: » It ain't that hard.http://hankstruckpictures.com/pix/trucks/hank_rabe/2006/sep30/69.jpg
Valetta wrote: » How do you propose to move the empty houses from Leitrim and Ballybofey to Dublin and Cork?
Victor wrote: » No, they want to return the construction industry to normality. .
donegal__road wrote: » probably not, when MBNA scaled down they shed 750 jobs...so
Victor wrote: » Many employers have no interest in such locations - the employee skills base is inadequate in width and depth and adequate transport links aren't there. If you are making pharmaceutical or electronic products, you need access to ports and airports, a large number of support services, reliable water and energy and so on. Tell me, are you going to get these in towns of population 485 and 4,852 or somewhere with population 1,273,069? Tell me how many international air routes serve Leitrim? Whatever about the pejorative 'shoebox' comment, many people want to live in apartments. Many people don't have the want, need or ability to have a large property or to maintain an individual house. Fashionable? People have been moving to towns and cities for the last 12,000-15,000 years. You know, its been happening as long as civilisation has existed. Indeed, it is the very definition of civilisation. Not quite. They want access to the variety of service and employees. No, they want to return the construction industry to normality. No, they want the banks to start lending again. And if industrial policy for the last 50 years promoted clusters of employers - 5 factories in one town instead of one factory in each of 5 towns - then such changes wouldn't be quite so painful. In some places: http://www.eircom.net/efibreinfo/map/ Energy security means that if one energy supply is disrupted, that you have another supply to cover the gap. towns that have only one supply have no appeal for medium and large businesses. Exactly. But this is After Hours and all sorts (not pointing at you) will put their mouths in gear without turning on their brains first.
donegal__road wrote: » Abbott in Donegal have been in operation approx 30 years. They make pharmaceuticals... and they have stayed in operation in Donegal despite Donegal's proximity to the airport in Dublin, and the fact that we haven't had a rail service since 1950 odd. The nearest international airport to Leitrim is Knock. That said, I know a pretty famous Irish musician who decided on buying his home in Leitrim as opposed to Donegal because Leitrim was closer to Dublin airport, he would travel out of the country almost every week. *those companies I mentioned earlier have their own back-up electricity supply. .
Daith wrote: » I think the argument is that the 400,000 aren't places people would want to live with no local facilities around etc.
mandrake04 wrote: » Yeah instead of producing something useful and exporting it we built houses and tried to sell them to each other, for good measure we even imported shoe scrapings to help us build them.
