hucklebuck wrote: » And it was all horse racing fans backing Kauto was it? People I know that have no interest in racing were backing Kauto in every King George and Gold Cup at that stage. I find it hard to believe that anyone who saw Denmans RSA and Hennessy thought he could be beaten by anything in Cheltenham, never mind a jockey that knows his onions.
mdwexford wrote: » He wouldnt maintain a serious enough gallop to get the main Champion Hurdle horses off his tail without going out like a light two out anyway imo.
RichieLawlor wrote: » http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=vVzJ0kq0Vd0 Basically says **** the punters
mulbot wrote: » u must have missed the 2012 champion hurdle- that scenario happened
mdwexford wrote: » You just compare races from years ago and different tracks for sport eh. Holding off Overturn and HF (who the race didn't suit) is a bit different to holding off MTOY, Our Conor and TNO. Not to mention Rock On Ruby had course form and Grade 1 form. Whatever you go on thinking UDS beating some nags has any bearing on how he can run in a Champion Hurdle.
mdwexford wrote: » You just compare races from years ago and different tracks for sport eh. Holding off Overturn and HF (who the race didn't suit) is a bit different to holding off MTOY, Our Conor and TNO. Whatever you go on thinking UDS beating some nags has any bearing on how he can run in a Champion Hurdle.
mulbot wrote: » ur just missin my point completely-it doesn't look from what we've seen that he will just bottom out if he front runs,and lookin at the 2012 is an example of what a front runner can do-MTOY wud be left struggling along with HF if that happened
Hulk Hands wrote: » MTOY would literally be the last horse in the race that would be struggling off a strong pace. Now that UDS is out i've gone off MTOY who I was warming to and i'm starting to think HF can win, but the price will have to be right (4's +), to add to my 10's on Our Conor. Think UDS not running is a negative for both English horses, doesn't look to be much pace in there
mulbot wrote: » do ya think in last years supreme if champagne fever had gone even quicker MTOY wou have won?
RichieLawlor wrote: » You are failing to understand
mulbot wrote: » i await
RichieLawlor wrote: » MTOY is a keen going sort, they literally couldn't go fast enough for him. It would help him settle and thus conserve energy for later. He has an enormously high cruising speed
mulbot wrote: » fair enough,i was just lookin again at last year supreme and ruby did set off at a fair clip,MTOY was cruisin,but just didnt finf the turn of foot-cud same thing happen here
RichieLawlor wrote: » It could. I personally don't think he will be in the first 3 but that just my opinion, but like I said, the faster the better for him.
mulbot wrote: » im hoping:),tryin to rule out all the threats to OC:)
RichieLawlor wrote: » Our Conor will be 2nd or 3rd
ft9 wrote: » Hopefully Richie has come to terms with this now and can move on. Irrelevant arguement anyway, UDS was never going the CH.
RichieLawlor wrote: » Lol. Ruby said. Suppose that's it then.
mulbot wrote: » to who?
hucklebuck wrote: » Never happen he is always right even when he is spectacularly wrong.
hucklebuck wrote: » This is really funny, do you believe Ruby or not?:
hucklebuck wrote: » This whole UDS thing is ****ing bizarre, as owners why would you go along with a decision not to send a live Champion Hurdle contender to the festival. As someone stated you could throw in any number of this years novices along with the current crop of last years novices and only a mug would write off Hurricane Fly lining up next year on the basis of his age. The race yesterday was odd with the ground being a bog and Ruby riding, paired with Mullins statement today, while it is disappointing that he possibly won't line up, I would not be surprised if he did line up given the norm for mixed messages. If I was the owner I would send the horse to another yard rather than wait and hope he is sound as a 7 year old.
Soft Falling Rain wrote: » Sticking with HF, Ruby has always banged on about this horse having a massive run in him at Cheltenham...and I'd just love to see him slam the opposition. Though even if he did I'm sure some on here will still find a reason to dismiss his performance.
mulbot wrote: » yea,goin back to 2005 i remember the neighbours horse( mullins trained) was entered in both the gold cup and world hurdle(he was versatile-had won at the 2004 festival in a chase,but also the french champion HURDLE),he won the hennessey in 05,the family wanted obviously to go for the gold cup but were told at the start of the week if that was gonna happen they had to find another trainer!!went on to finish third in the hurdle race,
