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Your reasons for emigrating

lufties

Not sure if this has been a topic before, but I'll give it a go anyway.

Having been away from Ireland a few years now, I reflected recently on my life then in comparison to now. The real standout thing I can say is that I'm more confident and comfortable in my own skin(perhaps that's down to maturing with age). Anyway this got me thinking why I left in the first place back in 2009. It wasn't actually things like unemployment, corruption or anything to do with politicians. The recession was only a small part of the reason that I headed off.

The main ones I came up with were the following;
Career-My career was stagnant at home and I didn't 'fit in' to the mould.
Excitement and adventure-A new life abroad,new place,new people etc.
Leaving the past behind-As it says, along with a fresh start.
Finding myself-I always cringed when people say 'oh he/she went off to find his/herself. Now I get it.
A new challenge-to challenge myself, to grow as a person and become more worldly.
Relationships-having had a couple of failed ones under my belt, I naively thought that finding 'the one' would perhaps be easier overseas.
Right time- It certainly was with the country on it's knees.

Anyway so I wondered as the thread title suggests ,why others have emigrated?

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happyviolet

darragh16 wrote: »

Because Ireland is a country full of finger-pointing, begrudgers and moaners. It seriously effects your mental health!

+1 on this.

I am in college at the moment, and apart from holidays abroad with family, never had emigrated for a job. But unless something really positive picks up here for me here, if there is an opportunity for me to move abroad (New York, London, or Canada would be my ideal places), I'd take it in a heartbeat. I have nothing really to keep me here, to be honest. It is just a dreary routine in and out, there is no excitement at all for me.

jank

maninasia wrote: »

'Stop the boats'...doesn't speak to a liberal population full stop. The poll results are above, the majority of Aussies don't agree with providing any welfare to refugees , legal or illegal, doesn't matter.

Which poll is this?

maninasia wrote: »

At the same time I am not saying it is black and white either, it's obviously got a Western democracy with overall checks and balances...but I wouldn't paint it as some sort of multicultural 'fair go' haven, that's a myth.

Yea, a myth alright given that Australia is arguably the most multi-cultural nation on earth given that 99% of people do get on… but sure don't let facts get in the way of that myth of yours….
Tell me what country would be the ideal multi cultural 'haven'?

Tigger

To Ganymede and Titan
Yes, sir, I've been around
But there ain't no place
In the whole of Space
Like that good ol' toddlin' town
Oh! Lunar City Seven
You're my idea of heaven
Out of ten, you score eleven
You good ol' toddlin' town
Oh! Lunar City Seven
Lunar Cities One through Six
They always get me down
But Lunar City Seven
You're my home town

mandrake04

maninasia wrote: »

I've lived in Australia and experienced it's different parts first-hand.

Did actually live here as an immigrant, or were you on holiday?

maninasia

You can tell by what I wrote that I know a lot about Australia. I don't need to go into my personal life, just cover the objective facts.

maninasia

jank wrote: »

Which poll is this?

Yea, a myth alright given that Australia is arguably the most multi-cultural nation on earth given that 99% of people do get on… but sure don't let facts get in the way of that myth of yours….
Tell me what country would be the ideal multi cultural 'haven'?

Come on man, read the link I gave you, find the poll yourself.

Wompa1

Push Pop wrote: »

You're situation is very like mine, do you find yourself missing the rain? I actually do sometimes, it's weird. Sedona is stunning, I was there last month.

Yeah, I miss the rain. I go out in it when we get it here...very rare though. Sedona is very pretty. Been up there a few times.

mandrake04

maninasia wrote: »

You can tell by what I wrote that I know a lot about Australia.

Really???

maninasia wrote: »

I don't need to go into my personal life, just cover the objective facts.

So you were here on holiday then.... LOL.

maninasia

Deal with the content..read the links..analyse and discuss..grow up.

Oh yeah..and 'Stop the Boats' and 'Stop the Carbon Tax'...LOL

Manic Moran

More money, better weather, bigger guns.

stefan idiot jones

Manic Moran wrote: »

More money, better weather, bigger guns.

Ukraine?

mandrake04

maninasia wrote: »

Oh yeah..and 'Stop the Boats' ...LOL

Boats have stopped buddy.

There hasn't been an illegal boat since 19th Dec.

Mr Morrison said the interception of illegal boats was one of a series of measures in the past four months that resulted in the first boat-free January since 2008 and the first full calendar month without an illegal boat arrival since February 2009.

"The results have been dramatic. In the last 58 months, there have been illegal boat arrivals but on the 59th, it's zero. Since December 19, over six weeks ago, not a single boat has successfully made it to Australia."

..........LOL

Of course if you actually lived here you would know that.

lufties

mandrake04 wrote: »

Boats have stopped buddy.

There hasn't been an illegal boat since 19th Dec.

..........LOL

Of course if you actually lived here you would know that.

Lads will ye get a room FFS.

Legs.Eleven

This thread is giving me a headache.

[Deleted User]

Legs.Eleven wrote: »

This thread is giving me a headache.

That's what you get for emigrating :mad::mad:

Jamsiek

SweepTheLeg wrote: »

I would love to emigrate, but wouldn't know where to start. I have no debt or family responsibility so that's a positive.

I've joked around with my friends about it and they all said the same thing. "Sure why would ya wanna leave, It's the best of craic here."

Why would they say that?
They obviously haven't travelled much I would guess.

Ignore them and just go, if you don't like it them you can considering returning but at least you can say you tried.

If your friends see how much you're enjoying life abroad, it might convince them to do the same.

What country you go to could depend on a lot if factors. Are you under 30?

Jamsiek

jank wrote: »

Canada maybe but I hear wages are only OK and tbh its a poor mans USA imo.

You would be wrong there tbh. The standard of living is higher in Canada than in the US right now. I live in Vancouver now and I work with Americans who love Canada.

It's also easier to get into Canada and it has more employment opportunities. No recession here. I'd like the US too but I know I'm the right side of the border right now.

Jamsiek

Lollipops23 wrote: »

I'll hopefully be heading off to Canada towards the end of the summer. I have a job, but it's a dead-end and it's slowly killing my soul.

I want an adventure, a change of scenery and to just experience...anything outside my norm tbh

Am both terrified and excited!

Good luck, what part are you moving to?
I'm in Vancouver and it's fantastic.
Lots of Irish in Canada too so you'll settle in quickly enough. I did.

Jamsiek

BraziliaNZ wrote: »

Not a fan of the latest beard trend, yoga, or India but I don't care if people do those things, I think you must know a lot of idiots in Ireland! A few of my friends back home have been to India and loved it. Personally I'd hate to go, sounds like it's just an open air sewer!

Always wanted to go, seems like an incredible country to see

Jamsiek

WilyCoyote wrote: »

Ditto! Even if the Irish weather seems tropical to our winter

I take it you're not in BC then!

jank

Jamsiek wrote: »

You would be wrong there tbh. The standard of living is higher in Canada than in the US right now. I live in Vancouver now and I work with Americans who love Canada.

It's also easier to get into Canada and it has more employment opportunities. No recession here. I'd like the US too but I know I'm the right side of the border right now.

Standard of living is subjective of course. If one has little or no skills than one is probably better of living in Canada especially if they can avail of government services (sot sure if IEC visa allow this) but cost of living is much higher in general. However, if you have a skill that is anyway in demand than the US has more opportunity for you to hone, develop and ultimately be more successful. That is not saying Canada is a bad spot. Only saying so many Irish people are going over there at the moment because of the easy availability of visa's. If the US offered something like that in the morning, I would safely bet any amount of money that there would be greater demand for them than Canadian visas. Hence my comment about the 'poor mans US'.

I have heard Vancouver is a good spot, but very expensive and very tough to get a job in with so much competition. In Canada you have a handful of cities. In the US, the choice is endless. From West Coast LA, San Fran, to east Coast NY, Boston, Phili, DC down to Florida and everything in between, New Orleans, Chicago, Denver, St Paul..
I just think if you give someone a choice of one or the other, most would pick the US.

ardle1

To be honest, I have no fcukin idea, I think I was working at the time, and I think I was happy... Anyway me and a few off the lads just fcuked off to London for a few years

well it was the early nineties,, I'm sure that's not the reason their all headin away now:rolleyes:is it?!

AngryHippie

maninasia wrote: »

You can tell by what I wrote that I know a lot about Australia. I don't need to go into my personal life, just cover the objective facts.

And yet understand fcuk all about it.

If you have been relying on the mainstream media for your "objective facts" then you have already fallen flat on your face as far as intelligent discussion is concerned.
They consistently display the "facts" "polls" and Statistics that suit their current viewpoint (i.e that of their owners). The only semblances of actual fact are ABC and SBS, and even then, they are usually cautious.

Enjoy your blissful ignorance

orangesoda

To go to university, england is technically part of my country though, still as grim as the emerald isle, i hope not to stay in the british isles for too long

beks101

hegarty147 wrote: »

I left Ireland for Canada not for employment reasons as I had a good job at home. I left because i was sick of the "depression and the recession" it was really getting me down. Everyone is so positive in Canada the public service is efficient, politics is not as dirty as home. Canada's biggest scandal is rob ford ffs.

It's an earnest, innate, sort of culturally bred positivity that can take some adjusting to. No begrudgery, no bitching about each other (they do like to bitch about the weather though), a lack of real regard for politics because of the vastness of the country and many layers of politics province to province.

I think my favourite thing about Canada was the lack of judgement of strangers, that happens all too often in Ireland. "State of yer wan....what's she up to....it's far from that she was reared" yada yada.

Canadians don't 'embarrass' one another in the same way we seem to and I found that very liberating when I lived there. I'd say the positivity and encouragement of one another, coupled with that lack of judgement of each other was the reason why I found it very easy to climb the professional ladder in Canada. I just wasn't self conscious about putting others' noses out of joint, "what will people think" etc the same as I'd often felt in my former Irish work place, and any advancement was always met with a pat on the back.

Sense of humour was a struggle though, right to the end. Not nearly as many funny fcukers in Canada as there are in Ireland. It's really something that can't be taken for granted.

Frank Bullitt

Dublin was getting very repetitive to me, and I saw nothing really changing for me. So I decided to give it a go abroad and its the best thing I have ever done in my life.

The Backwards Man

There's a fire softly burning, supper's on the stove,
but it's the light in your eyes that makes him warm.

Hey, it's good to be back home again.
Sometimes this old farm feels like a long lost friend.
Yes, and hey, it's good to be back home again.

lufties

beks101 wrote: »

It's an earnest, innate, sort of culturally bred positivity that can take some adjusting to. No begrudgery, no bitching about each other (they do like to bitch about the weather though), a lack of real regard for politics because of the vastness of the country and many layers of politics province to province.

I think my favourite thing about Canada was the lack of judgement of strangers, that happens all too often in Ireland. "State of yer wan....what's she up to....it's far from that she was reared" yada yada.

Canadians don't 'embarrass' one another in the same way we seem to and I found that very liberating when I lived there. I'd say the positivity and encouragement of one another, coupled with that lack of judgement of each other was the reason why I found it very easy to climb the professional ladder in Canada. I just wasn't self conscious about putting others' noses out of joint, "what will people think" etc the same as I'd often felt in my former Irish work place, and any advancement was always met with a pat on the back.

Sense of humour was a struggle though, right to the end. Not nearly as many funny fcukers in Canada as there are in Ireland. It's really something that can't be taken for granted.

Never been to Canada, but I've heard so many times that its really boring,probably with reference to the lack of humour. I have relatives in Alberta and Nova scotia. I kind of regret going to Australia instead of canada, it prob would have suited me better.

massdebater

beks101 wrote: »

It's an earnest, innate, sort of culturally bred positivity that can take some adjusting to. No begrudgery, no bitching about each other (they do like to bitch about the weather though), a lack of real regard for politics because of the vastness of the country and many layers of politics province to province.

I think my favourite thing about Canada was the lack of judgement of strangers, that happens all too often in Ireland. "State of yer wan....what's she up to....it's far from that she was reared" yada yada.

Canadians don't 'embarrass' one another in the same way we seem to and I found that very liberating when I lived there. I'd say the positivity and encouragement of one another, coupled with that lack of judgement of each other was the reason why I found it very easy to climb the professional ladder in Canada. I just wasn't self conscious about putting others' noses out of joint, "what will people think" etc the same as I'd often felt in my former Irish work place, and any advancement was always met with a pat on the back.

Sense of humour was a struggle though, right to the end. Not nearly as many funny fcukers in Canada as there are in Ireland. It's really something that can't be taken for granted.

I moved to Melbourne a few years ago and my experience of the people here matches this word for word.

Electric Sheep

lufties wrote: »

Never been to Canada, but I've heard so many times that its really boring,probably with reference to the lack of humour. I have relatives in Alberta and Nova scotia. I kind of regret going to Australia instead of canada, it prob would have suited me better.

I suppose if your idea of humour is "jokingly" insulting people under the guise of slagging, Canada would not be your kind of place.