whats the point wrote: » And on the other side you have the UFF commander Johnny Adair, doing documentaries with Nazi Nick and supporting Israel at the same time :pac:
dxhound2005 wrote: » Gerry Kelly would be a more appropriate representative in that case. He was in the IRA unlike Adams and he did some actual fighting (car bombing) and served time for it. But is now a politician in government. That matches the Mandela experience more than Adams who was only ever a politician.
LordSutch wrote: » They were there for Mandela's funeral, Mandela being the man that ended apartheid in South Africa. Hatred towards Adams and the IRA for sure, with far too many good people in the ground because of his movements dispicable actions, and the really awful thing is that he calmy claims that 'oh well that's what happens in war' or "they had a laissez faire disregard for their own security". Hopefully h'll get stranded there and the ANC will give him a job at something menial and back breaking. That's why some of us have a blind hatred for him.
Fr. Ned wrote: » I said he was representing SF and nationalists. Are you saying all nationalists were in the IRA?
LordSutch wrote: » Most Nationalists are not Republicans, and Adams brand of Republicanism is not to be lauded.
dxhound2005 wrote: » It's hard to find any coverage other than about Tutu at the moment. But it is possible that Adams requested to attend, not the other way round.http://www.irishtimes.com/news/world/africa/59-world-leaders-will-attend-mandela-memorial-or-funeral-1.1621021?page=2Sunday, December 15th - A state funeral will take place at Mandela’s home and final resting place at the family homestead in the village of Qunu in the Eastern Cape. This will be open to selected dignitaries and heads of state who request to attend. Having our President there at the other ceremony was good enough for me. The leader of a minor oppostion party shouldn't be regarded as represeting the country.
dxhound2005 wrote: » The leader of a minor oppostion party shouldn't be regarded as represeting the country.
harryr711 wrote: » Adams was invited to attend. Martin McGuinness was invited to and attended the memorial service on Tuesday along with most other political leaders.http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-25302420
Fr. Ned wrote: » In your opinion.
LordSutch wrote: » Most Nationalists are not Republicans
dxhound2005 wrote: » Thanks for clearing that up. If you google SABC Gerry Adams you only get a story about Martin McGuinness shaking hands with the Queen and before that Adams commenting on Margaret Thatchers death. Adams in South Africa is hardly headline news there. I would venture to say that 95% of South Africans haven't a clue who Adams is or what Sinn Fein is.http://www.sabc.co.za/news/a/1d6818004bc584ee924d934e20b1a252/Britains-queen-shakes-hands-with-ex-IRA-chief-20122706
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Skylinehead wrote: » I'm sorry? They're the same thing. Nationalists want a united Ireland. Republicans want a united Irish republic. Unless the majority of Irish nationalists want a form of government other than a republic, which I find very hard to believe, then you're talking balls.
whats the point wrote: » Does it matter if 95% of South Africa doesn't know who he is? the fact is Mandela wanted him.
timthumbni wrote: » I see that Robert Mugabe was there as well. I would lump Adams in that same barrel of swill to be honest. That's me personally obviously but you see what I'm getting at.
LordSutch wrote: » That's why some of us have a blind hatred for him.
realies wrote: » All I see from your posts is hatred of everything GA//SF,while being understandable you being a mild unionist an all it's also regrettable, I certainally never agreed with David Erving,Gusty spence or Gary mc Michael,but did see the good they tried to bring to loyalist working class areas of NI and what they brought into the GFA.just can't see where your hatred is getting you or yours anywhere. Lord sutch your hatered of every single action taken by republicans from the 1916 rising to the present makes me wonder why you still live down here and not up in east of Antrim where you might feel more happy and surroundeMd by like minded people like yourself. Ps have lived in NI for years,family still lives there, lost relative to Loyalist/British goverment killing/murder/terrorism /war etc . And goodnight to you all.
timthumbni wrote: » Ps. I've lived in Northern Ireland all my life. The IrA have murdered many of my friends and relatives. All for what????
realies wrote: » All I see from your posts is hatred of everything GA//SF,while being understandable you being a mild unionist an all it's also regrettable, I certainally never agreed with David Erving,Gusty spence or Gary mc Michael,but did see the good they tried to bring to loyalist working class areas of NI and what they brought into the GFA.just can't see where your hatred is getting you or yours anywhere.
Skylinehead wrote: » I don't support the IRA, but...equality? The North is a hell of a lot better than it was 50 years ago.
LordSutch wrote: » They were there for Mandela's funeral, Mandela being the man that ended apartheid in South Africa. Hatred towards Adams and the IRA for sure, with far too many good people in the ground because of his movements dispicable actions, and the really awful thing is that he calmy claims that 'oh well that's what happens in war' or "they had a laissez faire disregard for their own security". Hopefully he'll get stranded there and the ANC will give him a job at something menial and back breaking. That's why some of us have a blind hatred for him.
timthumbni wrote: » I have a healthy hatred of SF politicians as they are a bunch of low life's for the most part. I have experienced them all my life so I know what I'm talking about. I would say the same about the loyalists political parties such as the pup etc but no one on the unionist side votes for them aside from a few freaks. Sinn Fein have brought nothing but a dependence on welfare for large swathes of west Belfast. Job done for them I suppose.
Tramps Like Us wrote: » I think we are starting to get to the nub of the issue with you No unionist like a big house one
Nodin wrote: » No, it's solely because you're a dyed in the wool unionist.
LordSutch wrote: » I think that (......)Organisation'..
