Femme_Fatale wrote: » Oh wait. Nah, you're just a manipulative, lying, scheming, chauvinistic, borderline misogynist, womanising creep.
Vitaliorange wrote: » Thats actually common pua advice right there. They call it outcome independence. You are happy and content regardless of whether a woman likes you or not. Having your own fun comes first.
Legs.Eleven wrote: » Let's face it, if you're going to such extreme measures as PUA, it's hard to take seriously the insistence that you're happy and content regardless of whether a woman acknowledges your presence or not although you might be very good at putting on an act. The hidden disdain and dislike of women by many of its users shows they don't take rejection on the chin. Again, my posts are not directed at you but the PUA users in general.
Balaclava1991 wrote: » You see. Typical woman! She thinks I'm trying to seduce her! LOL
Carlos Roca wrote: » Sniffing hair?
Vitaliorange wrote: » Yea, but the idea is to help men become genuinely content if they weren't to begin with.
thegreatgonzo wrote: » Yeah last time was at a concert and he ran off when my friend noticed what he was doing. I didn't actually see him.
Carlos Roca wrote: » Well that's creepy. I was kinda joking.
Legs.Eleven wrote: » Would you embarrass yourself so thoroughly in real life too? I can barely read your posts they're so cringeworthy.
Legs.Eleven wrote: » I wonder how happy they really are having to act like someone they're not just for a ride.
Femme_Fatale wrote: » Oh my god, you cryptically referenced Shakespeare - you're so intellectual and mysterious... I'm melting.
thegreatgonzo wrote: » It's not as bad as being pissed on in Supermacs like that girl on AH was a while back in fairness.
Pug160 wrote: » I wonder if this makes some women overly suspicious now though? I'm guessing that quite a lot of young women know about it. I think there might be some unfortunate side effects, such as men who are genuine being mistaken for being a sleazy pick up artist....... But is it just a very confident, spontaneous man or is it one of these other guys?
You've already had intercourse with the girl. The ideal setting for the power of the door, which is a power and control pattern, is right after you've had intercourse and you're in bed with the girl, and at this time hopefully you've set up the fact that you're also the man of her dreams and fulfil her emotional needs. You're fooling around in bed, you've already had a great time, and you go, "sweetheart, what's that over there?" and you point towards the door. And she'll say, "well you know, that's a door, silly." And you say, "yeah, you know.. I'm a real positive person, but.. I mean, can you imagine.. I mean, you don't know what can happen from day to day, when you think about it in your mind. I mean, what would happen if I walked out that door and the door closed and as the door closed, it slammed shut, and no matter what you did, you could not open the door and you knew that you would never be able to look into my eyes again and you'd never be able to hear my voice again and you'd never be able to feel my touch again." Ok, right here is where she starts going, "I don't like this door business at all." And at this time you just reassure her.. "ok, alright sweetheart, you're right. You really shouldn't think about the door and you really don't have to think about the door." So you go back to playing around with her some more. Have some more fun with her, bring her to another orgasm or whatever and say, "you know, a terrible thing happened the other day. My friend was hit by a truck. I mean, it was awful, by the time they got him to hospital he was dead. I can't believe it, you know? It's almost as if, it would be a horrible thing you know when you think about.." (point towards the door) "..that no matter even if you were to get that door opened and you were to search, that you could never find me again.." Then she starts freaking out. You calibrate more on that part of, "you will never be able to see me again, you'll never be able to hear my voice again." "You'll never be able.. all that fun we had together, all those great times we had together, walking along the beach, hand in hand in the moonlight, we would never be able to do those things again and even if you were to open that door, you would search and you could never find." And she's at the point where she's saying, "no no I hate this door. Let's stop this door now, are you trying to upset me?" And you say, "oh, I'm sorry sweetheart, I'm just saying these are just things that are popping into my mind, ok?" So play around some more. Get her good and nice and hot again, fool around, have a good time with her, joke, and then then get back into the door and say, "you know, God, still you know, about life's tragedies.. I mean, I just keep on thinking how.." At this point you can already see that this is starting to make her feel uncomfortable. You want to create that sense in her that you can walk out and she'll feel terrible for the rest of here life. You want to anchor that response. I'll get up and she'll say, "well what are you doing?" And I'll say, "I'm going to the bathroom." I go up to the bedroom door and slam it. That right there will freak her out. Then I'll open the door and say, "oh, I'm sorry. You know, I'm sorry, I'm just playing with this door again. You know, you really shouldn't think about this door now and you really don't want to think about this door now." Having anchored that sense of loss and pain to the door, you can trigger it whenever needed. Whatever negative behavior may come up that you want to stop, the first time you just get up and slam the door. Whether you walk out the door depends on the level of bull****. On later occasions you can just indicate tbe door in some manner. The example Alex gives: If he's talking on the phone and getting any crap from her, and he knows the relation of where the door is to her desk, he says, "sweetheart, could you please turn right and take a look at what's over there.." and that was the end of the bull****."
thegreatgonzo wrote: » You'd have to be kind of sheltered to confuse a genuine guy and one who was subjecting you to the kind of interrogation some of the guys up there were talking about. But I'd say a lot of women know it when they see it but go a long with it anyway and have a good laugh about it afterwards. I'm still laughing at the rings thing.
Balaclava1991 wrote: » I love the door routine. Sick? Hell it works!:D
Pug160 wrote: » True. But a genuine guy could still be frowned upon if it is assumed that the interaction is premeditated and not spontaneous. In other words, a man walking around looking for women.
Balaclava1991 wrote: » I love the door routine.Sick? Hell it works! ...
Balaclava1991 wrote: » But aren't all straight single men walking around looking for women? Women are not hit on by just creeps and losers. Creeps and losers are not the problem. They are hit on by more confident genuine guys than they can shake a stick at. They can't f*ck them all as much as they might want to. They are hit on so much that it's tiresome to even be polite anymore. Which is why many women are often so aggressively rude and tell men to "f*ck off!" Women rarely hit on men because why would they? Women have no trouble getting laid if they want to be.
seenitall wrote: » Priceless! Keep 'em coming, sweetie, and hang on to your dark power for as long as you can, you'll need it for a while yet.
Femme_Fatale wrote: » Oh my god, you cryptically referenced Shakespeare - you're so intellectual and mysterious... I'm melting. Oh wait. Nah, 'Sblood, you starveling, you elf-skin, you dried neat's tongue, you bull's pizzle, you stock-fish! O for breath to utter what is like thee! you tailor's-yard, you sheath, you bowcase; you vile standing-tuck! .
Pen.Island wrote: » The best advice I was ever given (was given on here) was set a target of how many women to get rejected by. So say, get rejected by 10 women. Approach as many women as it takes, that way you have it all to gain and nothing to lose. Still, I haven't done it! haha
Wibbs wrote: » The gift that keeps on giving.