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Bangernomics car of the week/day part III

colm_mcm

Modnote - Thread moved to new thread because the other one was near 10k posts.

Last few entries copied over.

Bangeromics rules:
Under €2000
Valid NCT
Something you'd actually drive yourself
VRT paid

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Ded_Zebra

I kinda like

:D:D

http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/99-vw-lupo-1l-for-sale/5836784

JohnBoy26

Top Dog wrote: »

Classic Irish specification - rear spoiler & hub-caps

Sometimes hub caps are a good thing. They are a much nicer sight to see than some examples fitted with massively oversized alloys.:)

Saab Ed

Ded_Zebra wrote: »

I kinda like :D:D

http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/99-vw-lupo-1l-for-sale/5836784

I see potential ...

Ded_Zebra

Exactly what I was thinking Ed :cool:

Saab Ed

Ded_Zebra wrote: »

Exactly what I was thinking Ed :cool:

This is interesting. Where can I subscribe to your newsletter?

dgt

johndaman66 wrote: »

"Make: Peugeot
Model: 406
Variant: 1.8 S "

Yep, I am fairly certain them 406's did not come with a 1.6 litre engine

They did and thankfully we never got them along with the 1.9 non turbo diesel :eek:

colm_mcm

dgt wrote: »

They did and thankfully we never got them along with the 1.9 non turbo diesel :eek:

Pretty sure my teacher had one back in the day ?

Actually, thinking back it was a TD, Another one had a 2.1 TD with factory alloys (which was a big deal in the mid 90s as back then you either had TSW Stealths or steel wheels)

I think it had a keypad immobiliser too.

Nidge_Weasel

Anyone else think this is a solid yoke, probably with a wee bit of wiggle room on price. Might get it for 550 if you're cheeky enough

http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/fiat-seicento-1-1-litre-petrol/5857339

bear1

Barely anything left on it. NCT due in a few days and tax on the off practically

Kaiser D

NCT is due tomorrow on it, so practically no NCT. Feck all tax.

Not even worth €550 tbh.

unkel

Nidge_Weasel wrote: »

Anyone else think this is a solid yoke, probably with a wee bit of wiggle room on price. Might get it for 550 if you're cheeky enough

Nice wee car and a good buy at full asking price if it had a new NCT. As the lads said it's worth very little without one. Not a bangernomics car.

Kaiser D

http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/nissan-almera-automatic-nct/5828398

Decent small-ish automatic car with NCT until June 2014 for €650

http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/cheap-car-for-sale-nctm-tax/5793934

After the recent 'discussion' on here about posting cars that have problems/defects, I considered not posting this, but here goes; 2004 reg with NCT until March 2014 and tax until the end of the month for €595.

Needs front break pad and a little TLC other than that it's driving perfect

Seems like decent value nonetheless depending on what the TLC is.

Toyotafanboi

the interior in those sonatas is dreadfully plastic. and that's from a toyota driver. when the successive generation to that one come into bangernomics territory they will make good buys.

Kaiser D

Kaiser D wrote: »

http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/nissan-almera-automatic-nct/5828398

Decent small-ish automatic car with NCT until June 2014 for €650

And the penny drops, yet again

http://www.carsireland.ie/add.php

NCT expiry date: None
Tax due date: None

The amount of cars with fake NCTs for sale today are frighteningly high.

People who do this are pure scum.

Toyotafanboi

i put my reg into your link and it says my car has no NCT. and it definitely has :pac:

bangernomics : http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/hyundai-sonata/5782219

if it had NCT, it could be had (according to the advert) for very close to bangernomics money

http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/hyundai-sonata-new-model-2005/5217665

davycc

shocking scammer! drogheda NCT maybe

unkel

Toyotafanboi wrote: »

http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/hyundai-sonata-new-model-2005/5217665

A nearly 9 year old 2.4l petrol Hyundai and asking price is €2,950. No sign of NCT or tax?

Anyone paying more than €950 needs their head examined imho

Toyotafanboi

unkel wrote: »

A nearly 9 year old 2.4l petrol Hyundai and asking price is €2,950. No sign of NCT or tax?

Anyone paying more than €950 needs their head examined imho

i did stipulate "if" it has NCT. and it's really advertised for €2450 and then you begin to haggle. it was more for representational purposes that i was saying that a lot of them will slip into the bangernomics price range shortly and they are a pretty decent car.

unkel

Toyotafanboi wrote: »

a lot of them will slip into the bangernomics price range shortly and they are a pretty decent car.

They should have slipped into bangernomics price range years ago

Jaysus, 3k for a petrol manual '05 Hyundai Sonata with no NCT. I paid 4k for a mint petrol 6 speed auto '04 BMW 5-series with NCT a few months ago. The former should have been bangernomics back in '10. The latter won't be bangernomics for another few years yet

Toyotafanboi

you make a good point i will give you that, what engine was the 5 series do you mind me asking?

i still stand by mine though, they will make a good bangernomics purchase. the cars themselves, as for the second time :pac: my link was mainly for representational purposes. they are quite handsome, well spec'd and fairly robust and the first of the really high standard hyundais.

dgt

colm_mcm wrote: »

Pretty sure my teacher had one back in the day ?

Actually, thinking back it was a TD, Another one had a 2.1 TD with factory alloys (which was a big deal in the mid 90s as back then you either had TSW Stealths or steel wheels)

I think it had a keypad immobiliser too.

Ah yes the 2.1 with its 12v head, 2 inlet and one out, all the same size ports

non intercooled, thirstier and lucas epic(ly crap) ecu pump is a best avoided yoke. A turn of a screw and the 1.9 is producing the same power and better economy in a slightly more efficient engine

The 1.9sd was available in the continent..... Looking mid 40s for mpg from the factory, but who would buy one, they'd be desperate :pac:

I can't say I ever remember those cars in the 90's with alloys, every one of them I remember had trims.....

Keypad is very easily bypassed, I made a vid on how to do it using my 106 (petrol and diesel is all the same process)

Saab Ed

Dgt, I have a question for you. I had one of those 2.1 Xantias years ago. It was a 98 if memory serves me, must have been the last of them cause there was no key pad.

Anyway (and sorry for going off topic here) it used to have a mental problem. It would run fine for hours, maybe days and even weeks some times. Then out of the blue the revs would start to randomly fluctuate between 800 - 14/1600. You be sitting there at traffic lights in neutral then suddenly the engine would start revving up and down. Turning it off usually fixed it, but not always. Any ideas what this was Dgt, I never got to the bottom of it.

On the car itself, well I'd have to agree, a 1.9 turbo was a superior car except for in one place, the 2.1s legs. A 1.9 would out accelerate the 2.1 but the 2.1 was like the Duracell Bunny, keep your boot down and it just went on and on and on.

Ded_Zebra

Toyotafanboi wrote: »

i put my reg into your link and it says my car has no NCT. and it definitely has :pac:

bangernomics : http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/hyundai-sonata/5782219

if it had NCT, it could be had (according to the advert) for very close to bangernomics money

http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/hyundai-sonata-new-model-2005/5217665

The first one looks like good value but you have to haggle hard to get it into bangernomics! Probably sneaks in at the very top end

The second one... well...

bear1

Saab Ed wrote: »

Dgt, I have a question for you. I had one of those 2.1 Xantias years ago. It was a 98 if memory serves me, must have been the last of them cause there was no key pad.

Anyway (and sorry for going off topic here) it used to have a mental problem. It would run fine for hours, maybe days and even weeks some times. Then out of the blue the revs would start to randomly fluctuate between 800 - 14/1600. You be sitting there at traffic lights in neutral then suddenly the engine would start revving up and down. Turning it off usually fixed it, but not always. Any ideas what this was Dgt, I never got to the bottom of it.

On the car itself, well I'd have to agree, a 1.9 turbo was a superior car except for in one place, the 2.1s legs. A 1.9 would out accelerate the 2.1 but the 2.1 was like the Duracell Bunny, keep your boot down and it just went on and on and on.

Maybe I can answer?

I may be wrong but that sounds like an idle control unit problem? Or a sticky throttle cable?

unkel

Toyotafanboi wrote: »

what engine was the 5 series do you mind me asking?

The 2.2l straight six petrol

I was initially looking at buying a 2.5l as they are cheaper - only in Ireland

Toyotafanboi

unkel wrote: »

The 2.2l straight six petrol

I was initially looking at buying a 2.5l as they are cheaper - only in Ireland

that's pretty much what i thought. i'd do something similar if i was able to stomach the tax bill.

unkel

bear1 wrote: »

Maybe I can answer?
I may be wrong but that sounds like an idle control unit problem? Or a sticky throttle cable?

Or dirty throttle body? I used to have the exact same symptoms on a petrol Rover 75. Brought it to Rover dealer, they spend about 40 minutes working on it only to tell me I needed a new throttle body. They didn't have any in stock so I said I'd think about it. They didn't charge me a cent. On the way home the problem was gone, never to return again. I had the car for another few years after that

dgt

Saab Ed wrote: »

Dgt, I have a question for you. I had one of those 2.1 Xantias years ago. It was a 98 if memory serves me, must have been the last of them cause there was no key pad.

Anyway (and sorry for going off topic here) it used to have a mental problem. It would run fine for hours, maybe days and even weeks some times. Then out of the blue the revs would start to randomly fluctuate between 800 - 14/1600. You be sitting there at traffic lights in neutral then suddenly the engine would start revving up and down. Turning it off usually fixed it, but not always. Any ideas what this was Dgt, I never got to the bottom of it.

On the car itself, well I'd have to agree, a 1.9 turbo was a superior car except for in one place, the 2.1s legs. A 1.9 would out accelerate the 2.1 but the 2.1 was like the Duracell Bunny, keep your boot down and it just went on and on and on.

I had a 97 Xantia with no keypad too! Maybe it depended on the spec/market/how PSA were feeling at the time

Having trawled through many's a scrapyard on the hunt for various parts, any 2.1 I encountered almost always had it's ecu and pump missing. I couldn't understand why and asked about. I found out later ecu's were riddled with bugs, seems to be a common problem with the lucas pump, haven't heard much bother in the pre 97 ecu (commonly used for bosch ve conversions for veg oil/reliability etc). That's the only answer I can give for the idling issue, an early ecu might have solved it

Yep a standard 1.9 wouldn't stand a chance against a 2.1, it's a plodder in standard form, it was slightly better pre 98 with the older turbos but the 2.1 would still accelerate at high speeds where the 1.9 would stagger. Thank test driving loads for finding that out!

It'd be rude not to put up an XUD engined car at this stage....

NCT till Aug, 850

pred racer

dgt wrote: »

I had a 97 Xantia with no keypad too! Maybe it depended on the spec/market/how PSA were feeling at the time

Having trawled through many's a scrapyard on the hunt for various parts, any 2.1 I encountered almost always had it's ecu and pump missing. I couldn't understand why and asked about. I found out later ecu's were riddled with bugs, seems to be a common problem with the lucas pump, haven't heard much bother in the pre 97 ecu (commonly used for bosch ve conversions for veg oil/reliability etc). That's the only answer I can give for the idling issue, an early ecu might have solved it

Yep a standard 1.9 wouldn't stand a chance against a 2.1, it's a plodder in standard form, it was slightly better pre 98 with the older turbos but the 2.1 would still accelerate at high speeds where the 1.9 would stagger. Thank test driving loads for finding that out!

It'd be rude not to put up an XUD engined car at this stage....

NCT till Aug, 850

My 96 xantia had the kepad:cool:

JohnBoy26

An unmodified ek4 vti Civic.

http://donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/5512073