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New Wexford 2 Day August 17th -18th

michael196

If you enjoyed the Frank O Rourke and you fancy a two day in august, promoted by the same Wexford Wheelers Club that brought you the Frank O Rourke, keep an eye on here.

If you trust the club who brought you the Frank O Rourke, to bring you on another organised and safe route, non circuit: then keep reading.

As this is a new promotion for this club, we have not yet defined the race Route.

A re-use of the Frank O Rourke is a possibility, but a stronger proposition is to bring you on one huge circuit.

You all might feel like guinea pigs by August, from circular races, so our aim is one long, non repeating route.

Our Current Aim is A2/A3, A4. Interested in your opinion on that. I Resources permit, a one off underage might be possible.

The structure regarding Criterium / time trial/ race is not yet defined.

Gives us your ideas, your wishes.

There are excellent south Wicklow hills nearby, however a transfer would be needed to the start.

Let us hear from you: for the Wexford Wheelers 2 day.

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michael196

this is going to take some time. But I want it to be 100% right.

Darkglasses

michael196 wrote: »

this is going to take some time. But I want it to be 100% right.

You're some man Mick. You should be very proud!

Buddha Star

michael196 wrote: »

this is going to take some time. But I want it to be 100% right.

GOOD ON YOU! That level of commitment shows your professionalism and that each rider's effort to be there is respected and matters to WW.

michael196

Working directly with the grading officer from CI also to resolve.

Slo_Rida

michael196 wrote: »

this is going to take some time. But I want it to be 100% right.

If you can knock some time off my GC I'll buy you a pint. Don't make it too obvious though...I'll take 3rd overall on GC.
Slo/Fast

michael196

Sean Bracken, Cycling Ireland Grading officer is working directly with me on all the placings.

The A4 data. I have requested Precision to send me the data as acquired and I am re processing that data.

Realistically, it will be this evening before I can get onto this ( have to go get a crust ) .

Each rider who paid to enter, deserves their timings, good or bad. It matters to me , to Wexford Wheelers and to our Sponsor.

I have a good idea on what happened and why as regards reporting results. Largely acquisition of times worked, ( chip to sensors ) but the subsequent processing failed badly.

The time behind the GC ( down to sub seconds ) determined the GC, but the printed reported results are rounded up in time , making most of the times appear the same, as printed. That is where Our issue lies, but I need to data from Precision to verify this.

I did this process last night for A1-A3, and will do A4 tonight.

Thank you for your positive comments about the event. As said, will continue to work to resolve the reported A4.

Looking forward to the Sean Kelly at the weekend, as will be the first time on a bike in 3-4 weeks.

michael196

please dont rush CI and the grading officer on points in the A4.

CI are waiting for data from me .

CI Grading officer and CI in general , are very helpful in resolving.

dedocdude

well done on rectifying the times - most races would just leave it at that - I've ridden much bigger stage races that consistently have timing problems on the GC every year, so not so sure why there is so much talk of the timing issues here, i see lads on twitter complaining too.

Did it decide the jersey or something? To be honest i wasn't following the race at all so genuinely don't know

dooverylittle

michael196 wrote: »

please dont rush CI and the grading officer on points in the A4.

CI are waiting for data from me .

CI Grading officer and CI in general , are very helpful in resolving.

Michael thanks for a suberb weekend of racing. Do you know if I get any points for winning the A4 time trial? I think I need 2 more to be upgraded. Do I race A4 until I am notified by CI. Thanks again for the incredible effort you and WW have gone to. I hope the timing issues don't put you off running the event again next year.

Slo_Rida

dedocdude wrote: »

well done on rectifying the times - most races would just leave it at that - I've ridden much bigger stage races that consistently have timing problems on the GC every year, so not so sure why there is so much talk of the timing issues here, i see lads on twitter complaining too.

Did it decide the jersey or something? To be honest i wasn't following the race at all so genuinely don't know

There's a bubble and sometimes people can't see outside of theirs.
It was the smoothest run event I've ever seen. Great weekends racing.

Buddha Star

I used to organize conferences.This was a cycle race. There seems to be some cross over between the two disciplines from what i can see. http://www.unireg.com/t,29.php

WW got so much RIGHT and deserve to be congratulated. Dont forget this is all the work of volunteers (Well paid conference organizers often get so many things very ropey as many of you know from experience.)

Knowing what action you expect form the event (conference in my case. Cycle race here) is the big piece. What exactly are people coming for. What outcomes do they expect to achieve? (Not necessarily a win but a challenging race , CI points fairly distributed, etc.)

Drafting in third party to manage certain aspects to achieve this is normal practice for (eg catering, technical equipment etc).

The final piece is evaluation which WW are doing very carefully. As a previous poster pointed out many cycle races somewhat gloss over this all important element in running any event.

LeoD

dooverylittle wrote: »

Michael thanks for a suberb weekend of racing. Do you know if I get any points for winning the A4 time trial? I think I need 2 more to be upgraded. Do I race A4 until I am notified by CI. Thanks again for the incredible effort you and WW have gone to. I hope the timing issues don't put you off running the event again next year.

Shouldn't you be asking CI that question?

polariz

dooverylittle wrote: »

Michael thanks for a suberb weekend of racing. Do you know if I get any points for winning the A4 time trial? I think I need 2 more to be upgraded. Do I race A4 until I am notified by CI. Thanks again for the incredible effort you and WW have gone to. I hope the timing issues don't put you off running the event again next year.

Points for the TT were 3,2,1 so you're up!

michael196

dooverylittle wrote: »

Michael thanks for a suberb weekend of racing. Do you know if I get any points for winning the A4 time trial? I think I need 2 more to be upgraded. Do I race A4 until I am notified by CI. Thanks again for the incredible effort you and WW have gone to. I hope the timing issues don't put you off running the event again next year.

there is no rider 'Doovery Little' registered .....

dooverylittle

LeoD wrote: »

Shouldn't you be asking CI that question?

Perhaps, but I was only asking michael as he said there would be a delay in allocation of points.

Morrisseeee

michael196 wrote: »

there is no rider 'Doovery Little' registered .....

Doesn't that name cover all A4's ?

:pac:

michael196

dooverylittle wrote: »

Perhaps, but I was only asking michael as he said there would be a delay in allocation of points.

Ahem ........ I need your real name .......

CramCycle

michael196 wrote: »

Ahem ........ I need your real name .......

MOD VOICE: By PM obviously

Slo_Rida

CramCycle wrote: »

MOD VOICE: By PM obviously

In fairness he has already said he won the A4 TT.....

dooverylittle

michael196 wrote: »

Ahem ........ I need your real name .......

I can remain anonymous! The CI ranking are updated online.
Thanks Michael, enjoy the SK.

CramCycle

Slo_Rida wrote: »

In fairness he has already said he won the A4 TT.....

That maybe true but that can still all be done by PM rather than in thread.

dedocdude

Cant see how anyone could give out about this event, it even had closed roads!;)

Slo_Rida

dedocdude wrote: »

Cant see how anyone could give out about this event, it even had closed roads!;)

That's those pesky A2/3's at it again...you wouldn't have seen that in the A4 bunch :cool:

buffalo

Slo_Rida wrote: »

That's those pesky A2/3's at it again...you wouldn't have seen that in the A4 bunch :cool:

In fairness, at one point I was at the side of the road when the A4 bunch passed. Up ahead they spread out across the road, and a car left the cavalcade and drove up to the rear of the bunch on the right-hand side. A moment later, the bunch compressed back into the correct lane. Not sure if it was entirely coincidental, but it certainly looked like somebody was enforcing the RotR.

Also, when I pulled up, I had four service cars/marshalls/motos ask separately if I was okay, which just about sums up the spirit of the weekend for me.

Slo_Rida

buffalo wrote: »

In fairness, at one point I was at the side of the road when the A4 bunch passed. Up ahead they spread out across the road, and a car left the cavalcade and drove up to the rear of the bunch on the right-hand side. A moment later, the bunch compressed back into the correct lane. Not sure if it was entirely coincidental, but it certainly looked like somebody was enforcing the RotR.

Also, when I pulled up, I had four service cars/marshalls/motos ask separately if I was okay, which just about sums up the spirit of the weekend for me.

The marshalling was phenomanol. We (A4) only had one car (neutral service) pass us out on the back road over the whole weekend asfair. On the main road it obviously didn't matter.
Couldn't agree more re spirit of the weekend and I feel angry that the spirit of this thread post race is not reflecting that. One lousy issue (albeit an important one) is dominating.
From the minute I met the lady at sign-on, all the volunteers were so nice to us. Even when we were all asking the same questions over and over they were always willing to help. Even when they were standing in the pouring rain Saturday morning they were still in good form. They absolutely made my weekend. I stood chatting to different members of the volunteer team at different times especially around the TT and had great chats.
I know that after "TimingGate" has subsided, people will remember this weekend for the marvel that it was.
Can't wait for next years edition.
Hats off to the WW team and the other clubs who, as Michael mentioned, provided valuable support.

Aodho

Slo_Rida wrote: »

Couldn't agree more re spirit of the weekend and I feel angry that the spirit of this thread post race is not reflecting that. One lousy issue (albeit an important one) is dominating.

Don't think so fella.. majority who have aired their opinion on the timing issue have also strongly qualified their (reasoanble) complaint w/ both compliments & congratulations to Michael & WW for the otherwise outstanding event they produced.

Arthurdaly

Slo_Rida wrote: »

I know that after "TimingGate" has subsided, people will remember this weekend for the marvel that it was.
Can't wait for next years edition.
Hats off to the WW team and the other clubs who, as Michael mentioned, provided valuable support.

You are obviously new to racing and particularly stage racing. Get the times right and then worry about music/ice cream.

daragh_

When I got dropped from the A4 bunch at the end there was no neutral service car for me to draft. Also I feel some of the people clapping and cheering me at the finish were doing so in an ironic manner. Who do I complain to?

Slo_Rida

Aodho wrote: »

Don't think so fella.. majority who have aired their opinion on the timing issue have also strongly qualified their (reasoanble) complaint w/ both compliments & congratulations to Michael & WW for the otherwise outstanding event they produced.

Fella? Nice!!

531

daragh_ wrote: »

When I got dropped from the A4 bunch at the end there was no neutral service car for me to draft. Also I feel some of the people clapping and cheering me at the finish were doing so in an ironic manner. Who do I complain to?

That's terrible. :Definitely complain to Michael. He will arrange for another car. He will also round up a gang of strawberry pickers to applaud you over the line while recognising your achievement in finishing at all.