jesus_thats_gre wrote: » Provide one single piece of factual evidence that shows that Rodgers is a superior manager to AVB.
Paulegend wrote: » i think avb is a great manager but to say he is better than rodgers is purely speculative nonsense
Mr Alan wrote: » I'd give AVB 8/10 and Rodgers 6/10. If Rodgers performance last season was 7/10, I'd be worried. Average/poor in the league, poor in all cup competitions. ****e summer transfer window, very good Jan window. 6/10 is more than fair I think.
Pedalstool wrote: » Spurs didn't make it past the 4th round of either cup, before going out to Basel in the quarter finals of the EL. In the league they finished with one more point than they did with Redknapp.I'd give AVB a 6/10. Rodgers I would give a 6/10 also, mostly based on the improvement of the team towards the end of the season.
Kirby wrote: » Take your pick. Qualifying for the champions league twice in recent memory. The fact that one of those times Chelsea won it and they lost out is highly unlucky and doesn't change the fact that they got top 4. Plus they only missed out last season on the last day of the season and also due to a stellar run from Arsenal. They are also excellent in the transfer market. What have they won? Well, nothing yet but they are still a successfully run club.
mike65 wrote: » This thread is just desperate for a fight.
Paulegend wrote: » nothing stupid about it. it shows that brendan is building a team that doesnt rely on just one player
Kirby wrote: » He can't. It's subjective opinion and isn't provable. Like most things in football.
jesus_thats_gre wrote: » Yup, his time at Porto is the leg up that I refer to. He had a leg up but it is very easy to bottle it at that level, even when you have the leg up. The fact that he exploited the leg up so effectively warrants respect. He had a major disadvantage at Chelsea in fairness and it didn't work out. For all the talk of how badly he handled it and him failing there, his win percentage is still higher than Rodgers is presently for Liverpool. Not proof that he is a better manager but puts the view of his time at Chelsea being a failure into perspective, no? I think that he has done well at Spurs, slightly better than Rodgers has done at Liverpool. Only slightly mind you - as reflected in win percentage. I have to admit to being slightly biased in my views though. I favour the conservative and controlled tactics that the likes of AVB, Jose and Rafa employ. I firmly believe that you can't realistically expect to consistently compete and predictably perform while first the defence isn't solid and second the spine of the team isn't solid. You may have picked up that fact based on my repeated posting on our need for a very good CB and DM to be added to the team. I believe that, only when you have the back line and spine are taking shape, should you start shifting your focus to the offensive and, in particular, the flare players. I posted a year ago that Rodgers seems far more focused on the offensive element of our play and that still seems to be the case - given the players being signed. To put it into context, it is for this same reason that I have less respect for Barca over the past few seasons than most would have. I fundamentally do not like the disregard they have for defensive responsibilities and took a little bit of pleasure recently when opposing teams figured out just how to exploit that. Edit: Forgot that Chelsea won the CL the season that AVB was at Chelsea - sacked half way through the campaign having secured qualification from the group stages. Note that the manager who took over and won the CL wasn't able to secure qualification out of the group the season after.
Mr Alan wrote: » No it's not. Just to clarify, in addition to your earlier comment that Rodgers had built a great Liverpool team (even without Suarez)...are you also now saying that you think Rodgers is a great manager?
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Paulegend wrote: » yes i think rodgers has been great. he has us playing football. will he be a success i dont know but he has done much better with both the media and the fans compared to managers before him. when he was at swansea they where praised for playing the "barca football" and where said to be playing better football than arsenal. now we are playing better football than the "pretty football" arsenal.
Paulegend wrote: » yes i think rodgers has been great. he has us playing football. will he be a success i dont know but he has done much better with both the media and the fans compared to managers before him. when he was at swansea they where praised for playing the "barca football" and where said to be playing better football than arsenal. now we are playing better football than the "pretty football" arsenal. as io said i dont know if he will win anything with us but so far he has been great
jesus_thats_gre wrote: » Going to avoid turning this into a black or white argument but this is all subjective nonsense. It might work out in 2/3 seasons time and goodness me do I hope it works out but I am terrified that it won't. I am as much worried by whether the owners will back Rodgers enough to fully enable his approach too.
djPSB wrote: » Lads calm the fook down and watch this. Should ease the stress levels.
Grayditch wrote: » Without Suarez, we'd have lost to Newcastle, City twice, Chelsea and more. You need to look more at his actual little legs pegging around the field, and less on numbers. Ask any defender in the league, would you rather defend against Liverpool with or without Suarez. Jesus why am I typing this? Rodgers: Last season, we based our team around his qualities.
rob316 wrote: » There's far too much praise for AVB and Spurs on here, Bale dragged them to within a point of 4th last season. I would strongly argue we have a better team without Suarez than they do without Bale. Creativity wise we are definitely better. I like Spurs, and the two players I'd take straight away are Dembele and Vertonghen. They would be some addition to this liverpool team.
Mr Alan wrote: » The usual suspects will pull this up as absolute tripe. Most will ignore it as its positive delusion. That's the biggest issue with this thread IMO. A post like the above should be scoffed at by all.
jesus_thats_gre wrote: » Hmmm far too many parallels to be drawn there to be frank. Feel for the poor bollox to be honest. He is the product of placating and misleading fans.
Pedalstool wrote: » If Liverpool sign Willian, does that put the issue to bed or do you think they should be doing more?
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