sid wallace wrote: » If Scully Ryanis the best we can get we may throw our hats at it. Galway(who we've never lost to) Dublin ( who we are better than) and Cork(who a procession of decent managers made us realise we were better than) all beat Kilkenny in the last year. Why are we clapping ourselves on the back for not beating them?
seananigans wrote: » please remove this troll
sid wallace wrote: » Yes he failed.
Straight Talker wrote: » Again Cork are unbeaten against Waterford in their last three matches including two league matches and the championship last year.Waterfords forwards are not as good as Corks Limericks and Clares and the performances this year would back up that theory.Waterford do have some promising forwards but they weren't quite ready for championship hurling this year.
Straight Talker wrote: » Waterford were a puck of the ball away from beating Kilkenny and Michael Ryan was inches away from being the first Waterford manager to beat Kilkenny since John Keane in 1959.There's a fine margin between being a hero and the most useless gobsh!te going if your posts are anything to go by!
Straight Talker wrote: » There's no point in me arguing with you anymore!
seananigans wrote: » We are not Kilkenny ,we never will be I hope not anyway, turning up for finals only ? blowing out cody for having a tough year ? I hope that type of behaviour is never seen south of the suire OFC we want to win ,and when it happens it'll be 10 times all off KK/Tipps?cork's wins together but im just happy to have a team with our pluck, our fight, our determination ,what has upset me more than anything ,is that the values i associate with my home has been eroded by a group of players who will be quickly forgotten as a dark chapter if they get their own way . I went to the last match in thurles and was beaming with pride,because we lost like men (instead of winning poorly) and my father echoed my sentiments in saying he felt pride to be represented like that. my father was around 12 the last time we did it, and held the trophy 2 days later in frankie welschs house, being his senior clubmate , in a time you listened on the radio and even being in the presence of liam was not worth a photo. after all the years of waiting if he can accept our year and be proud, I know I am
sid wallace wrote: » What a crock of defeatist nonsense. No wonder we win nothing.
Straight Talker wrote: » All i ask from the players that go out and represent my club and county is that they go out and do their best and give a good account of themselves and anything else after that is a bonus.This fella that is slating Michael Ryan seems to think that Waterford have a devine right to win all irelands.Waterford Cork and Kilkenny have no right to anything.All irelands are the results of years of hard work and application and a little bit of luck on the way.
doz wrote: » We have won nothing because we haven't been good enough, with the possible exception of 2007. I think most decent Waterford fans would accept that. I am really intrigued by where you have pulled this idea that we should have won an AI this year from, it's one of the oddest posts I've seen on here.
sid wallace wrote: » Do you genuinely think we are inferior to the rest of the teams left in the championship?
doz wrote: » I genuinely think that we are short in the forwards compared to the remaining counties. We are missing a top quality centre forward, a full forward and at least one corner forward. This is borne out by the scores put up by those counties and the scores we have been putting up. That does not mean we won't improve for next year but those are the facts as it stands. We simply shoot too many silly wides and that is not down to Michael Ryan or the management team.
sid wallace wrote: » Do you not think that if they had a proper coach they may have hit less wides? No?
seananigans wrote: » why are you feeding the troll?
Motivator wrote: » What a ridiculous comment, these players are on the Waterford panel because they're the best players in the county. Michael Ryan's job is to pick the best players available to him, against Clare he did that & yet you're blaming him because the players he picked couldn't score on the day? What a bull**** argument. Against Clare it just didn't happen on the day for Waterford, & I suppose you're going to blame Michael Ryan for Moran's U12 primary game type error that led to the 2nd Clare goal are you?
sid wallace wrote: » And what if Mullane and Molumphy were playing?
doz wrote: » All ifs and buts, they chose to make themselves unavailable, but I suppose Molumphy being on Army duty was Ryan's fault as well? Molumphy, while a great player, is not a scorer and is best placed at midfield IMO.
albert kidd wrote: » we are no worse then clare in the forwards imo doz.
seananigans wrote: » FFS are you deaf blind? please stop reacting to this individual !
doz wrote: » While I don't agree with a lot of what he has written, i don't consider it trolling and he is not likely to be subject to any action based on anything he was written so far IMO.
sid wallace wrote: » I don't think Molumphy had any major issues being released from military duties under previous managements.
Mountainlad wrote: » Yeah the army just didn't like Michael Ryan, that's why they sent him to the Lebanon :rolleyes: