parish girl wrote: » You d have to wonder what kind of relationship the Manager had with the players. The dogs in the street knew there were issues, even the lads that supported him said there ought to be changes and yet he thought there were no problems. I agree the whole thing was clumsily handled by the players but it appears that time was not on their side. What I'd like to know is why the county board had to put the word out with such haste. Why put the word out at HT in minor game. As some one said previously Manager contract was up, and it was nt as if we were still in championship and needed a manager now. Something fishy about the whole thing. Obviously done to embarrass the players
noiniho wrote: » I suppose the point I am making is that it was totally unnecessarey for what has happened in the last week to be played out in the public
hardybuck wrote: » Often in the workplace, workers will give feedback on their manager. It's called 360 degree feedback... It would be arrogant to think that there will always be someone available to fill the Waterford jersey. Not many people would be willing and able to provide as much commitment as these guys. And before anyone says that they'd give their eye teeth for the chance - you give yourself the chance through a lifetime of dedication and hard work. Their views are completely valid, but should not have come out in this fashion. If there was a proper review process or forum provided by the County Board, this wouldn't have been allowed to happen. We're going in circles. There is a vacant senior manager role to be filled, exactly the same as after the KK defeat. Nominations or applications will come in, and Ryan will either apply for it or he won't.
Mr Tibbs wrote: » And so say all of us. This arguement is just going arouund in circles and nobody is really sure of what really happened. In a week we should be speculating about our minor hurler's chances in the up coming final here we are going on about the county board and player's who betrayed the manager. Not one post on who we think we will be facing after Sunday in what is now the most important game for us this year. Pity really, I hope this won't effect the minor camps preparations as the timing of this announcement was a disgrace.
seananigans wrote: » http://www.independent.ie/sport/hurling/michael-ryan-slams-deise-player-coup-29503402.html read the comments
lovelypoint wrote: » Indo 'article' simply a straight transcript of Ryans interview on Championship Matters - is this supposed to count as journalism ? Cliona Foley should be ashamed.
seananigans wrote: » I was more reffering to the comments of the general hurling populace, it shows we're not alone in our opinion .
seananigans wrote: » I think the players got their reality checked, scully didn't hit 15 wides against Clare,and unlike '08 no one is behind them Best they quietly agreed to take him back and say the concerns were addressed. our players might be amateur, but their attitude is moreso, the manager,a pro , I know who I want to have faith in
sid wallace wrote: » I am 100% behind the players and am very impressed that they had the moral courage for a young panel to get this underachiever out.
doz wrote: » Each to their own but you would be in a serious minority if you are applauding the players for the disgraceful way in which they have behaved, whatever your thoughts on Michael Ryan. Doesn't appear to me that there was too much moral courage either, more like a crowd of youngsters who were strung along by a few ring leaders.
lovelypoint wrote: » Yes, I'm quite sure opinions here are shared elsewhere, but if you're relying on 6 comments on an article to vindicate *any* stance, I think you're reaching, no offense
sid wallace wrote: » What's disgraceful about what they did? They had a meeting and they decided that they had enough of this lad holding them back and they communicated it to the county board. What's disgraceful about that?
seananigans wrote: » Troll ,the bookies and his peers state overachievment , go troll somewhere else
Mountainlad wrote: » Apparently those that were out of the country were not contacted last Sunday.
doz wrote: » Small matter of deliberately holding it the morning of one of our minor team's greatest hours, having only 11 out of 30 present and not a single player has had the courage to come out and explain their actions? Also, as far as I was aware the County Board was mandated to select the county manager and not the players, seems to be the way it works in all other counties? On what basis has he been 'holding' them back?
doz wrote: » Do you have any idea how many were reported to have been out of the country? Trying to piece all together all the various things I've heard to come up with the full picture.
sid wallace wrote: » Troll? Because I disagree with you? LIf they didn't have this hopeless case running the team they would have had a once in a generation chance of winning an All Ireland. Instead three inferior outfits are battling it out for the big prize.
chinguetti wrote: » So if Michael Ryan held the players back, the players, regardless of who manages them next year, will keep Waterford in Division 1 and win Munster and get to play in September in Croker? I do find it sad that people are blaming Ryan for hitting wides and poor shot selection when he isn't even a player. I find it amazing how when a team loses, the manager is always blamed but when a team win, tis the players. Wasn't it Babs that said there's 6 inches between a slap in the arse and a pat on the back?
sid wallace wrote: » Troll? Because I disagree with you? Lookit. These players realise that they have been hobbled from the start of the year by having this chap in charge. If they didn't have this hopeless case running the team they would have had a once in a generation chance of winning an All Ireland. Instead three inferior outfits are battling it out for the big prize. Did you ever ask yourself why Cody, JBM and Loughnane want Ryan to stay on? Because they want to hold Waterford back that's why.
