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The Academies

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List of every player currently in one of the four Irish academies.

Loosehead Ed Byrne
Loosehead Jack O'Connell
Loosehead Kyle McCall
Loosehead Finlay Bealham
Loosehead James Cronin
Loosehead/Hooker James Treacy
Hooker Niall Scannell
Hooker Brian Byrne
Hooker David Doyle
Hooker Jonny Murphy
Hooker Kevin O'Byrne
Hooker Duncan Casey
Hooker James Rael
Tighthead Martin Moore
Tighthead Tadhg Furlong
Tighthead Conor Carey
Tighthead Jake Caulfield
Tighthead Jamie Dever
Tighthead Peter Reilly
Lock Cathal O'Flaherty
Lock Tadhg Beirne
Lock Gavin Thornbury
Lock Alan O'Connor
Lock James Simpson
Lock Daniel Qualter
Lock Ultan Dilane
Lock Philip Donnellan
Lock Brian Hayes
Flanker/Lock Ben Marshall
Flanker Dan Leavy
Flanker Conor Gilsenan
Flanker Josh Van Der Flier
Flanker Jordi Murphy
Flanker Conor Joyce
Flanker Neil Faloon
Flanker Aaron Conneely
Flanker David Heffernan
Flanker Jonathan Gardiner
Flanker Shane Buckley
Flanker Ryan Murphy
Eight Jack Conan
Eight Sean O'Connell
Eight Jack O'Donoghue
Scrum Half Luke McGrath
Scrum Half Marcus Walsh
Scrum Half Kieran Marmion(may have signed a non academy contract recently)
Scrum Half Brian Haugh
Outhalf Cathal Marsh
Outhalf Noel Reid
Outhalf Stuart Olding
Outhalf Jack Carty
Outhalf Tadgh Leader
Outhalf Johnny Holland
Centre Cian Bohane
Centre Jordan Coughlan
Centre Colm O'Shea
Centre Chris Farrell
Centre Corey Hircock
Centre Harry McNulty
Centre/Fullback Robbie Henshaw(may have signed a non academy contract recently)
Wing Andrew Boyle
Wing Sam Coughlan Murray
Wing Conor Finn
Wing Steve Macauley
Wing Ronan O'Mahony
Wing/Fullback Darren Hudson
Wing/Fullback Darren Moroney
Fullback Mikey Sherlock*(not sure about his status)
Fullback Rory Scholes
Fullback Peter Nelson
Fullback Ricky Andrew
Fullback Shane Layden
Fullback Darragh Leader
Fullback Darren Sweetnam

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Munster13

I'm looking forward to hearing more about this group of academy players, i think a lot of gems will come from this crop i hope, i'm hearing good things about Greg O'Shea and Jack Cullan so i hope they can do well in the academy

ormond lad

Ruck Inspector wrote: »

Holland is nothing special, decent squad player. Ryan is nearly 30 already anyway and Foley and Nagle are very unproven.

3 makes sense i guess especially as they are all different ages.

Holland is decent option at pro12 and showed this season just gone that he's better than I thought he was.
Ryan doesn't have huge mileage done so has quite a few years left at the top level. 2nd rows can play much longer than other positions in general.
Surely other positions are in much more need for signings. Halfbacks, centre

Munster13

ormond lad wrote: »

Surely other positions are in much more need for signings. Halfbacks, centre

I do hope then, we see more of J.J and Bohane next season, they both look good players for years to come, I hope to see them get game time next year,

Ruck Inspector

ormond lad wrote: »

Holland is decent option at pro12 and showed this season just gone that he's better than I thought he was.
Ryan doesn't have huge mileage done so has quite a few years left at the top level. 2nd rows can play much longer than other positions in general.
Surely other positions are in much more need for signings. Halfbacks, centre

can only sign players if there is talented guys coming through.

a homegrown munster centre is a rare sight.

ormond lad

Leinster Academy for next season confirmed
http://www.leinsterrugby.ie/news/9901.php#.UaSlcDJOPMw

6 players in for next season. 3 youths and 3 schools players
Adam Byrne, Steve Crosbie, Thomas Daly, Billy Dardis, Peter Dooley, Ross Molony

Ruck Inspector

ormond lad wrote: »

Leinster Academy for next season confirmed
http://www.leinsterrugby.ie/news/9901.php#.UaSlcDJOPMw

6 players in for next season. 3 youths and 3 schools players
Adam Byrne, Steve Crosbie, Thomas Daly, Billy Dardis, Peter Dooley, Ross Molony

no surprises there.

shame to see David Doyle has retired due to injury.

lurtz

Ruck Inspector wrote: »

no surprises there.

shame to see David Doyle has retired due to injury.

agree,I wonder will he go abroad or what.
Huge talent,always had immense physical presence and great footballing ability

RobbieRuns

Fair play to Dardis, Leinster would only give that to a really good player straight out of School. He must be very good.

Quint2010

RobbieRuns wrote: »

Fair play to Dardis, Leinster would only give that to a really good player straight out of School. He must be very good.

Molony straight out of school too-although an age grade older. I would Dardis in the same bracket as Conway when he left school-bags of potential.

Wattle

Quint2010 wrote: »

Molony straight out of school too-although an age grade older. I would Dardis in the same bracket as Conway when he left school-bags of potential.

Delighted for Dardis. Fully deserved. I remember Conway was similarly very elusive for Rock at fullback.

Ruck Inspector

Leinster and Munster Academies for next year:

Loosehead James Treacy(Year 3 - Leinster - 22) - could be at Hooker.
Loosehead Ed Byrne(Year 2 - Leinster - 19)
Loosehead Peter Dooley(Year 1 - Leinster - 19)
Loosehead Niall Horan(Year 1 - Munster - 19)
Hooker Brian Byrne(Year 2 - Leinster - 19)
Tighthead Tadhg Furlong(Year 3 - Leinster - 20)
Lock Tadhg Beirne(Year 2 - Leinster - 21)
Lock Gavin Thornbury(Year 2 - Leinster - 19)
Lock Darren O'Shea(Year 1 - Munster - 21)
Lock Sean McCarthy(Year 1 - Munster - 20)
Lock John Madigan(Year 1 - Munster - 18)
Lock Ross Molony(Year 1 - Leinster - 18)
Backrow Shane Buckley(Year 3 - Munster - 21)
Backrow Conor Gilsenan(Year 3 - Leinster - 20)
Backrow Jack Conan(Year 2 - Leinster - 21)
Backrow Josh Van Der Flier(Year 2 - Leinster - 20)
Backrow Ryan Murphy(Year 2 - Munster - 20)
Backrow Dan Leavy(Year 2 - Leinster - 19)
Backrow Jack O'Donoghue(Year 2 - Munster - 19)
Scrumhalf Luke McGrath(Year 3 - Leinster - 20)
Scrumhalf Brian Haugh(Year 2 - Munster - 20)
Scrumhalf Jack Cullen(Year 1 - Munster - 18)
Outhalf Cathal Marsh(Year 2 - Leinster - 20)
Outhalf Johnny Holland(Year 2 - Munster - 21)
Outhalf Steve Crosbie(Year 1 - Leinster - 20)
Outhalf Gearoid Lyons(Year 1 - Munster - 18)
Centre Colm O'Shea(Year 3 - Leinster - 22)
Centre Jordan Coghlan(Year 3 - Leinster - 20)
Centre Harry McNulty(Year 2 - Munster - 20)
Centre Tom Daly(Year 1 - Leinster - 20)
Centre Rory Scannell(Year 1 - Munster - 19)
Wing Andrew Boyle(Year 3 - Leinster - 22)
Wing Sam Coughlan Murray(Year 3 - Leinster - 21)
Wing Darren Moroney(Year 2 - Munster - 22)
Wing Adam Byrne(Year 1 - Leinster - 19) - could also be at centre.
Wing Greg O'Shea(Year 1 - Munster - 18)
Fullback Darren Sweetnam(Year 2 - Munster - 20)
Fullback David Johnston(Year 1 - Munster - 19)
Fullback Billy Dardis(Year 1 - Leinster - 18)

lurtz

Gearoid Lyons and Dave Shanahan to Ulster I think

Wattle

What now for Harrison Brewer?

Hagz

Wattle wrote: »

What now for Harrison Brewer?

College, AIL rugby, u-19s rugby (maybe u20s), hope to get into the Academy next year.

Although there will be two strong candidates pushing for their own Academy spot in the centre next season in the form of Peter Robb and Rory O'Loughlin.

Not Playing Tiddlywinks Vinny

lurtz wrote: »

Gearoid Lyons and Dave Shanahan to Ulster I think

Gearoid Lyons was announced in the Munster Academy

FellasFellas

Hagz wrote: »

College, AIL rugby, u-19s rugby (maybe u20s), hope to get into the Academy next year.

Although there will be two strong candidates pushing for their own Academy spot in the centre next season in the form of Peter Robb and Rory O'Loughlin.

Peter Robb is more suited to the English kinda game, maybe a move to Rotherham or Doncaster could be his calling. O'Loughlin oozes class, would rate him very highly. Can mix it up with the physical as well which is also impressive.

Ruck Inspector

Brewer is only leaving school, will be eligible for the under-20s for 2 years. Loads of time. Very, very few players go from under-18 Leinster to academy straight from school.

lurtz

Not Playing Tiddlywinks Vinny wrote: »

Gearoid Lyons was announced in the Munster Academy

ah Im mistaken woe is me.

Ruck Inspector

Hagz wrote: »

College, AIL rugby, u-19s rugby (maybe u20s), hope to get into the Academy next year.

Although there will be two strong candidates pushing for their own Academy spot in the centre next season in the form of Peter Robb and Rory O'Loughlin.

Still think Tom Farrell could also be in with a shout. Hopefully he can perform at the JWC.

Hagz

Ruck Inspector wrote: »

Still think Tom Farrell could also be in with a shout. Hopefully he can perform at the JWC.

Yes there's a good crop of centres coming through. I'll be interested to see how Sebastien Fromm does out of school, and then you have Fergal Cleary and Andy Marks who have the potential to be picked up out of school.

If I'm not mistaken, after this season, Tom Daly will be the only centre in the Academy (excluding Byrne who I think will go down the back-three path), so I'd expect a couple to be taken in.

Ruck Inspector

Hagz wrote: »

Yes there's a good crop of centres coming through. I'll be interested to see how Sebastien Fromm does out of school, and then you have Fergal Cleary and Andy Marks who have the potential to be picked up out of school.

If I'm not mistaken, after this season, Tom Daly will be the only centre in the Academy (excluding Byrne who I think will go down the back-three path), so I'd expect a couple to be taken in.

Fergal Cleary, Adam Leavy and Andy Marks are going into 6th year and are all talented, rate Cleary highest right now. All three u19 next year.

Harrison Brewer and Michael Courtney are both eligible u19 next year aswell, both are leaving school this year though. Have heard Brewer will be skipping to u20 level though not sure about Courtney.

Sebastian Fromm, I think is u20 this season along with Robb and O'Loughlin

Hagz

Ruck Inspector wrote: »

Sebastian Fromm, I think is u20 this season along with Robb and O'Loughlin

I'm not sure about Fromm, but given that he's still in school I'd say he's u19. Robb and O'Loughlin are both u19. They paired together this year against England and France.

stellenbosch

Ruck Inspector wrote: »

Fergal Cleary, Adam Leavy and Andy Marks are going into 6th year and are all talented, rate Cleary highest right now. All three u19 next year.

Harrison Brewer and Michael Courtney are both eligible u19 next year aswell, both are leaving school this year though. Have heard Brewer will be skipping to u20 level though not sure about Courtney.

Sebastian Fromm, I think is u20 this season along with Robb and O'Loughlin

Agree that Cleary is a veryt talented centre as ge proved with Leinster and Ireland U18S

Would say that from what i have seen Marks is a full back and Leavy is a winger-doers not have the physical presence to play centre at the top level. Courtney leaving CBC and is in the LU19 panel for next season.

Ruck Inspector

Hagz wrote: »

I'm not sure about Fromm, but given that he's still in school I'd say he's u19. Robb and O'Loughlin are both u19. They paired together this year against England and France.

Sorry I meant u20 next season with Robb and O'Loughlin.

I assume Fromm wouldn't be viewed as a NIQ player, hard to really know.

lurtz

Ruck Inspector wrote: »

Sorry I meant u20 next season with Robb and O'Loughlin.

I assume Fromm wouldn't be viewed as a NIQ player, hard to really know.

well he's been here 3 years,just like Vas Artemyev was, and was asked to play Irish schools Im pretty sure but didnt because of his allegiance to Germany

RobbieRuns

stellenbosch wrote: »

Agree that Cleary is a veryt talented centre as ge proved with Leinster and Ireland U18S

Would say that from what i have seen Marks is a full back and Leavy is a winger-doers not have the physical presence to play centre at the top level. Courtney leaving CBC and is in the LU19 panel for next season.

personally I have always thought moving forward that Cleary should try for scrum half, for me he is to small to be a centre. He is a talented boy though.

Hagz

RobbieRuns wrote: »

personally I have always thought moving forward that Cleary should try for scrum half, for me he is to small to be a centre. He is a talented boy though.

Is he any shorter than Olding though. I don't know his height so I can't really make judgement, but the likes of Marshall,D'Arcy,O'Malley and Olding aren't so tall themselves.

Ruck Inspector

Hagz wrote: »

Is he any shorter than Olding though. I don't know his height so I can't really make judgement, but the likes of Marshall,D'Arcy,O'Malley and Olding aren't so tall themselves.

you are forgetting about BOD, who is 5'9.5

Cleary is around 5'10, but he is certainly not of slight build.

Hagz

Ruck Inspector wrote: »

you are forgetting about BOD, who is 5'9

Yeah but Brian O'Driscoll is the exception to any rule so I left him out of it.

RobbieRuns

I thought 5'8 to 5'9 but you might grab another inch at best. He is a good player with a great side step, just think that with his good hands that he might be suited to a role at scrum half. Not very many international centres at less than 5'10 now. Messers D'arcy and BOD have always been the exception.