CiaranMT wrote: » LOD and Downey would be able replacements though, with Downey at 12 and Laulala at 13.
Foxtrol wrote: » I was responding to a poster who was saying that McGrath should move to Munster and when I pointed out that it would only benefit Munster you jumped in to defend them. To be honest I didn't see in the interim that you had said it wasn't a good move for him and if you agreed with me then you really had no reason to have a go at me for calling out the OP. I think you need to toughen up a bit as for as long as Munster continue to try to chase Leinster players (I've done my best not to include a simile here that my hurt your current weak constitution) you're going to have to get used to people being outspoken, sometimes defensive and even negative on the subject or you'll be deleting another account quite quickly.
Lelantos wrote: » For what its worth, if the IRFU are going to continue with their NIQ policy, there will be a lot more Irish players moving between the provinces at the behest of the IRFU. Only 12 months ago, if someone had suggested a Leinster player would move to Munster during a contract, he'd have been laughed off the forum. But its happened, and I see a situation where trades or swaps in players, esp younger ones will become more & more common imo.
trouttrout wrote: » and nothing wrong with that. It will end up benefiting Irish rugby in the long run, even if it is hard for some of the more militant fans to accept
molloyjh wrote: » I don't think anyone has an issue with players moving per se. The example of Conway is a good one. He wasn't getting the game time at Leinster so his move to Munster makes sense. Nothing about the Luke rumour did and it was particularly emotive given the support he's received from Leinster over the last few years. Obviously some individuals take it too far, but those types aren't limited to any one province in all fairness. Sadly those types are consistently the ones getting the attention and being used as a stick to beat the predominantly decent supporters with by their counterparts in other provinces. At the end of the day I could easily tar Munster supporters as being racist based on how I've seen Nacewa treated in Thomond Park on a number of occasions (monkey noises made when he gets on the ball). Similarly I could claim Ulster fans are all ignorant w****rs after hearing some abuse a disabled child in the RDS. But we all know the people that do these things are in no way representative of the general supporters. The sooner we stop making so much noise about the minority and just bloody well ignore them the better. As the ad says "there's always one". Leave it at that and move on.
trouttrout wrote: » Never heard that about Isa, shocking stuff.
molloyjh wrote: » Yeah I've heard and seen plenty of shocking behaviour from individuals from every province. The problem with bringing that sort of thing up is that it just adds to the provincial crapfest because it pisses people off and is then used by them as ammo against whatever province it came from. It's a vicious circle. A Leinster fan has issues with Munster fans because of an incident like that, has a go at a Munster fan over it who then has an issue with Leinster fans because of that row. That Munster fan has a go at another Leinster fan and round and round we go. And all because of one or two eejits who should have just been ignored from the off. You see it on Facebook all the time. One person will come on to stir it up and it kicks off. But if people just ignored the initial comment it would die a death.
molloyjh wrote: » The sooner we stop making so much noise about the minority and just bloody well ignore them the better. As the ad says "there's always one". Leave it at that and move on.
Riskymove wrote: » sorry but I couldn't disagree more with that concept. The things you mention should be reported and dealt with, anyone making such comments or chants should be kicked out and never let come back There is a huge difference between banter, heckling, booing etc and what you have described. There should be no ignoring it. The difference in Luke's case is that it is his own "fans" who are making the comments on the basis that he is was supposedly moving to Munster. The level of vitriol in this case and in places like these threads only serve to show how much this Provincial rivalry has been hyped up in the last few years. Whether you think it or not, it is the small minority who are driving this and contributing to the bad atmospheres and the abuse you mention.
molloyjh wrote: » You see it on Facebook boards.ie all the time. One person will come on to stir it up and it kicks off. But if people just ignored the initial comment it would die a death.
athtrasna wrote: » Inpho have pics of today's Munster training, this one of Zebo lifted my spirits big time! http://www.inpho.ie/media/Ga2GU_3Spn8p19Hw_sc3uQ..a?ts=zE9kqCBZChr-gXd8YEf21yzoQa9OH3BoY3Hdyxw6_Gc.a
Eod100 wrote: » Is it too optimistic to hope he'll be back for the Quins game?
trouttrout wrote: » Rather than me being precious, I think you need to realise how utterly pathetic and exaggerated your OP was. Fair enough if you think Munster are targeting Leinster players, but making things up and delibritley exaggerating your points along with some inflammatory language like "I hope they give Munster the two fingers" just paints you as childish.
It's also hilarious that you can be so anti Munster for the supposed targeting of Leinster players (Conway being the first since Felix Jones three years ago) considering the players Leinster have brought in from Connacht recently. But I suppose there's nothing wrong with that now is there :rolleyes: (btw, for what it's worth I don't think there's anything wrong with it, but it's hugely hypocritical of you to get on your high horse about Munster doing the exact same thing less frequently)
trouttrout wrote: » Rather than me being precious, I think you need to realise how utterly pathetic and exaggerated your OP was. Fair enough if you think Munster are targeting Leinster players, but making things up and delibritley exaggerating your points along with some inflammatory language like "I hope they give Munster the two fingers" just paints you as childish. It's also hilarious that you can be so anti Munster for the supposed targeting of Leinster players (Conway being the first since Felix Jones three years ago) considering the players Leinster have brought in from Connacht recently. But I suppose there's nothing wrong with that now is there :rolleyes: (btw, for what it's worth I don't think there's anything wrong with it, but it's hugely hypocritical of you to get on your high horse about Munster doing the exact same thing less frequently)
jamiedav2011 wrote: » Examples please?
trouttrout wrote: » Carr and McCarthy to name two recently. I've no problem with it at all because it works both ways, Connacht have beneffited from the likes of McSharry, White and Hagan too same as Munster have beneffited from Keatley
danthefan wrote: » And Keatley and POD and probably one or two others I can't remember. Carr is from Leinster btw, Leinster academy, moved to Connacht.
trouttrout wrote: » Apparently Munster have signed Gareth Maule
Eod100 wrote: » Any source?
