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Enda Takes Populism To A New Low

the groutch

http://www.thestar.ie/star/enda-kenny-stuns-bank-staff-with-loan-request-for-mum/

young mum who Enda Kenny has vowed to help get a mortgage told The Star she has been sharing a single bedroom with her husband and child for the past year. The Taoiseach stunned Bank of Ireland staff in Ashbourne, Co Meath, yesterday when he marched Kelly Petit up to the bank’s manager and demanded that she be given a mortgage.
Plucky Kelly (29) took the chance to ask Mr Kenny for his help as he canvassed with Fine Gael candidate Helen McEntee for the Meath East by-election.
Kelly last night told The Star she and husband Joe have been saving like mad after being refused a mortgage last year.
The couple have moved into her parents’ home in Ashbourne as they save for a dream four-bed €250,000 home in the town.
Kelly, a regional volunteer organiser for the ISPCC, and Joe, a self-employed musician, have been sharing a bed with five-year-old daughter Saian.
“I was actually waiting out-side the bank for Joe to arrive when I clocked Enda canvassing and I thought I’d take my chances by asking him how I could get a mortgage,” she said.
“As soon as I mentioned it he took me by the hand and brought me into the bank and asked to see the manager.
“The staff in the bank were totally gobsmacked to see the Taoiseach coming in with a customer and especially when he asked the manager ‘Can you give this lady a mortgage?’
“The poor manager said she was busy as she had a mortgage meeting coming up — but that was with myself and Joe.”
The determined Taoiseach told Kelly that he would follow up on his mortgage request with the bank for her.
“He even gave me his card with his contact details on it and told me to keep in touch,” she said.
“The bank said they will do their best for us — but if we don’t get a mortgage with the Taoiseach’s approval I don’t know what else we can do.
“I know it was all a bit of a stunt but if it helps us get the house we want then great.”

So Enda decides to try bully a bank into giving a sizeable mortgage to a family whose only income is from a self-employed musician (ie. no job security) for about 200k (house costs 250k)?
Is it not idiotic lending like this that got us into this mess?
And all just to try garner a few extra votes in an almost meaningless by-election.

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topper75

Armelodie wrote: »

I think it's the green eyed irish monster blatantrereg, people here are jealous because...

1. A public representative made a public representation (inappropriately).
2. A woman tried to better her families situation (beyond her means, a lá Sean Quinn mentality - what have we learned?).
3. A woman works for a charity organisation but gets paid (not enough for a mortgage though).
4. A politician gets his name in the headlines for doing something (inappropriate publicity stunt).
5. A musician actually might have an income more than theirs (not really though seeing I have a mortgage and he doesn't).

Funny the way most if the people here are siding with what olivia o leary called a ' protestant institution' .... Still tugging the old forelock to our colonial forefathers I see

See my bold above.

Who is a protestant? Olivia O'Leary? Colonists? What? This is going a bit Jim Corr now.

The Backwards Man

Enda Kenny has more civic duty in his wee finger than some of his critics here.

Before you hurl a tirade of vitriolic abuse at the man ask yourself this

'What would you have done?'

smash

The Backwards Man wrote: »

Before you hurl a tirade of vitriolic abuse at the man ask yourself this

'What would you have done?'

Not demanded that she be given a mortgage without knowing her financial situation!

flutered

The Backwards Man wrote: »

Enda Kenny has more civic duty in his wee finger than some of his critics here.

Before you hurl a tirade of vitriolic abuse at the man ask yourself this

'What would you have done?'

i would have explained some real world economics to her, i would ask her how does she intend to pay each month, also would she have have enough to live on, plus a little for the emergencys which happen in real life, i would then ask her how could a failed bank expect to accomadate her since requests like hers caused the bubble and in turn the collapse of the economy, enough.

blatantrereg

She asked him how to get a mortgage.
He showed her that the correct procedure is to ask a bank for one.
What's the problem?

Armelodie wrote: »

I think it's the green eyed irish monster blatantrereg, people here are jealous because...

1. A public representative made a public representation.
2. A woman tried to better her families situation.
3. A woman works for a charity organisation but gets paid.
4. A politician gets his name in the headlines for doing something.
5. A musician actually might have an income more than theirs.

Funny the way most if the people here are siding with what olivia o leary called a ' protestant institution' .... Still tugging the old forelock to our colonial forefathers I see

I was trying to be humourous tbh. Reinterpretting the situation as like someone giving a lost person directions.

When did Olivia O'Leary say that about BoI? Given that she converted to the Church of Ireland [because of RC scandals and disallowing women priests], I doubt you're representing her comments in context, if they are accurate at all. I'm a protestant myself. You might be surprised how utterly people don't give a sh!t.

"Tugging the lock towards our colonial forefathers" LOL. What planet are you on?

My own colonial forefathers would have only ever voted Fine Gael incidentally, not that that should have any relevance whatsoever.

The Backwards Man

flutered wrote: »

i would have explained some real world economics to her, i would ask her how does she intend to pay each month, also would she have have enough to live on, plus a little for the emergencys which happen in real life, i would then ask her how could a failed bank expect to accomadate her since requests like hers caused the bubble and in turn the collapse of the economy, enough.

That's common sense, but it's not good politics.

People don't being like being told what they don't want to hear, a quick skim of these threads tells you this.

A woman approached Kenny looking for help. Enda helped her. Big ****ing deal.

awec

Armelodie wrote: »

I think it's the green eyed irish monster blatantrereg, people here are jealous because...

1. A public representative made a public representation.
2. A woman tried to better her families situation.
3. A woman works for a charity organisation but gets paid.
4. A politician gets his name in the headlines for doing something.
5. A musician actually might have an income more than theirs.

Funny the way most if the people here are siding with what olivia o leary called a ' protestant institution' .... Still tugging the old forelock to our colonial forefathers I see

Talk about missing the point completely.

lazygal

How much do 'self employed musicians' earn these days?

MagicMarker

A fella called fish wrote: »

Hang on..our leader is demanding that the bank lend a quarter of a million euro to a self employed musician and a volunteer...

jhegarty

lazygal wrote: »

How much do 'self employed musicians' earn these days?

Somewhere between busker and Bono.

JRant

The problem here is that he was out canvassing, therefore it was Enda the politician (on the clock) walking down the street not the Enda sitting in the stands ( off the click) up in Castlebar on a sunday afternoon watching the footie.
It's wholely inappropriate behaviour from an elected official, operating in an official capacity, to walk in to any business and tell them how to do their job.

Gorilla Rising

smash wrote: »

Does not compute... why would anyone be jealous of any of these made up 'reasons' you mentioned?

Jealousy is the usually the retort of someone incapable of constructing a proper argument as they're views don't hold much water.

up for anything

wandatowell wrote: »

If she wants a home then she should set her sights a little lower than a 250,000 euro property.

Jesus women you cant have everything!

I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt and taking that as a spelling mistake. :cool:

Ruu

Now we know the tactics used in Europe, "can we get our debt payments reduced, please? No? OK then, thanks"

topper75

lazygal wrote: »

How much do 'self employed musicians' earn these days?

If they don't earn enough to tax, you can be sure they don't earn enough to pay the average mortgage in Meath. If he pays tax, there will be accounts. AFAIK if you have a few years accounts showing the required income, the banks equate this to payslips for a salaried/waged PRSI person? The harsh reality may be that they just can't afford the mortgage.

Zebra3

Can someone explain to me why Edna Kenny is not at work?

We pay him more than the Americans pay Obama, yet he's sauntering around the streets in the middle of the day trying to get one of his own elected while interfering with other people's work.

Surely he should be trying to get some of the 400,000 people back to work instead.

G Power

the groutch wrote: »

http://www.thestar.ie/star/enda-kenny-stuns-bank-staff-with-loan-request-for-mum/

So Enda decides to try bully a bank into giving a sizeable mortgage to a family whose only income is from a self-employed musician (ie. no job security) for about 200k (house costs 250k)?
Is it not idiotic lending like this that got us into this mess?
And all just to try garner a few extra votes in an almost meaningless by-election.

yes and we're the ones allowing all of this ya know!! :mad::mad:

awec

G Power wrote: »

yes and we're the ones allowing all of this ya know!! :mad::mad:

Oh ffs, here we go.

Rabbo

He's got my vote.
Unsustainable debt for all!!

jam_mac_jam

Jesus would people drop dead if they rented a house?

Boombastic

jam_mac_jam wrote: »

Jesus would people drop dead if they rented a house?

:eek: The horror :eek:

BlatentCheek

Reminds me a bit of when Charles Haughey and Garrett Fitzgerald abused their positions to get huge overdrafts written off.
Reeks of strongman rule and damages our democracy.
The only difference is that Enda is doing it for someone else, but since he's really doing it for the political gain of himself and his party that's not much of a difference at all.

Dartz

Bit twee...

But a lose-lose situation either way, because someone would poke holes in it. Must've been ****ing gas for the people in the bank however. If only for the humour value, I support this.

Dartz

Zebra3 wrote: »

Can someone explain to me why Edna Kenny is not at work?

We pay him more than the Americans pay Obama, yet he's sauntering around the streets in the middle of the day trying to get one of his own elected while interfering with other people's work.

Surely he should be trying to get some of the 400,000 people back to work instead.

We pay him more so he doesn't have to suppliment his income with assistance from Bechtel, MPIAA and Lockheed ****ing Martin.

vitani

Zebra3 wrote: »

Can someone explain to me why Edna Kenny is not at work?

We pay him more than the Americans pay Obama, yet he's sauntering around the streets in the middle of the day trying to get one of his own elected while interfering with other people's work.

Surely he should be trying to get some of the 400,000 people back to work instead.

I still don't know what his job actually involves, tbh. Everytime I open a newspaper, I seem to see a new picture of him at some photocall or other.

If we knew beforehand that the Taoiseach was going to be working as some kind of professional model, we should have voted for the Green Party. At least then we'd have a nice collection of Eamon Ryan photos.

amacca

vitani wrote: »

nice collection of Eamon Ryan photos.

nice collection maybe...nice photos unlikely

(Im afraid of clowns)

hawkelady

Edna Kenny is one third mayor Quimbey , one third yokel and one third Alan partridge.

Mr potato head has more cop on than that Kenny plank.

G Power

awec wrote: »

Oh ffs, here we go.

what do you mean by that??

if he was being held to true account by us all he would know an awful lot better than to try pull a stroke like this!!

Zebra3

vitani wrote: »

I still don't know what his job actually involves, tbh.

Following Berlin's orders it would seem....

shruikan2553

I could be wrong but I though this is how it works
Step 1: Have a job
Step 2: Save up money
Step 3: Go to bank and they look at income and job security to see if you can afford to repay them.
Step 4: Get a mortgage you can afford

If you have to live with your husband and daughter in 1 room I get the feeling you don't complete these steps, otherwise you would rent a 2 bedroom house/apartment and then wouldn't "need" to buy a house.