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Borgen [ Spoilers ]

CJhaughey

Anyone watch this last night on BBC4?
Its following the same format as Forbrydelsen II with 2 episodes on a Sunday night repeated on Wednesday.
Its pretty compelling stuff TBH, and a welcome replacement for The Killing II.

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Infoanon

Kiwi_knock wrote: »

Great first two episodes, certainly one of the best shows on TV. So much drama contained within both episodes, they both flew by.

Please No Spoilers

honeybear

Missed 1st season so watched this blind last night-loved it!

CJhaughey

Funny how some of the characters from other Scan-series seem to pop up again and again.
The car sales guy who lost his son in Afghanistan was the Prime Minister from the Killing II.

Fluorescence

Those were two very very powerful episodes! Way to open the new season :eek:

I must go back and rewatch Season 1.

TICKLE_ME_ELMO

Good two episodes this week.

They get the balance of personal life and political/journalistic life just right.

Fluorescence

They really aren't pulling any punches this season, are they?

trishasaffron

Its a bit of a rollercoaster with a touch of everything - they really know how to enjoy sex those great Danes!

I find it gripping but on the downside all the (small p) interpersonal politics make me feel like I'm at work and I get all tense trying to anticipate the tactics needed to crush the opposition. I hadn't really thought about setting my work enemy up for a homosexual sting - might work though!

hollypink

Laugesen is such a great character, so sleazy and manipulative. I like how the Kaspar/Katrine relationship is evolving.

TICKLE_ME_ELMO

hollypink wrote: »

Laugesen is such a great character, so sleazy and manipulative. I like how the Kaspar/Katrine relationship is evolving.

I found those scenes quite sad in the 2nd episode. She keeps banging on about him keeping secrets, which is fine, but because we know what the main secret is it makes me feel really sorry for him.

Infoanon

Another 2 great episodes - I enjoy the fact that the issues are so current (despite this being 1 series behind).

In Borgen the leader of the junior coalition partner - labour leader - is also the minister for foreign affairs - sound familiar......

You can imagine similar real life cabinet scenes to those in the fictional Borgen, now and in the future !

Looking forward to Ep.5&6 next week

Eurovisionmad

TICKLE_ME_ELMO wrote: »

I found those scenes quite sad in the 2nd episode. She keeps banging on about him keeping secrets, which is fine, but because we know what the main secret is it makes me feel really sorry for him.

I find it a bit weird how nothing has been mentioned about that since the middle of the first season, it's like a very large elephant in the room!

TICKLE_ME_ELMO

Eurovisionmad wrote: »

I find it a bit weird how nothing has been mentioned about that since the middle of the first season, it's like a very large elephant in the room!

I assume it will come up again. They don't put a lot of focus on the back story of the main characters, but I don't see why they'd introduce that if they had no plans to go back to it? Unless it was just to give an insight into the character but not to actually make it a story line.

Given all the talk of secrets coming out, and you can't keep anything hidden in politics etc. maybe the newspaper guy will discover it? Not sure how he'd do that mind you, but anyway, I hope it gets brought up again somehow.

The Black Oil

Good episodes again in 2.03 and 2.04.

I did feel sorry for Marrot, even though he was obviously weak. Didn't feel all that sorry for the Foreign Minister, though, very ambitious and really pushing the optics to appear Prime Ministerial. His

suicide, well, seemed inevitable as he was pretty crushed when he confessed all in Birgette's office. Suicide's a bit of an easy out scriptingwise, imo. I thought the photos would ultimately end up in Kasper's hands.

Laugesen is ruthless.

In terms of Philip's and Birgette's relationship, I don't think we needed to meet his new OH to see how much pain Birgette is in from the divorce. I did cringe a little when she

shagged her driver.

The Philip/Birgette relationship is a little more settled now they've been apart for a while. They are a little easier in each other's company, to some extent, though he rightly questioned her on the 'grow old together' thing.

So, have you been watching Borgen, then?
No, what's it about?
Well, it's a political show, but basically, in season 2, episode 4, everyone sleeps with other, and stabs each other in the back. :pac:

snubbleste

Excellent series.
Why is Katrine's flat so small? I mean she can afford something bigger on her wage, can't she? or is this the way most single Danes live?

I still chuckle over the way the script called the Queen a bitch for keeping the PM waiting when she won the election. Could you imagine that happening in a BBC drama!?
The best episode was the Greenland one imho.

TICKLE_ME_ELMO

The Black Oil wrote: »

. His
suicide, well, seemed inevitable as he was pretty crushed when he confessed all in Birgette's office. Suicide's a bit of an easy out scriptingwise, imo. I thought the photos would ultimately end up in Kasper's hands.
Laugesen is ruthless.

Yes, I thought that Kasper would end up with them and they'd use them to keep him in line. Although

there was a scene at the start where Birgitte was getting something out of her office bathroom cabinet and the pills were really obvious in the shot. I was thinking why do they want me to notice the pills? So as soon as she left him in the office I realised where it was going.

DeepBlue

Just finished series 2. I'm not going to include spoilers for those still watching but I thought it was a great series and was even better than the first series. Sidse Babett Knudsen is terrific as Birgitte and Johan Philip Asbæk as Kasper is fantastic too.
Peter Mygind as Laugesen deserves praise also as the loathsome Express editor.

born2bwild

DeepBlue wrote: »

Just finished series 2. I'm not going to include spoilers for those still watching but I thought it was a great series and was even better than the first series. Sidse Babett Knudsen is terrific as Birgitte and Johan Philip Asbæk as Kasper is fantastic too.
Peter Mygind as Laugesen deserves praise also as the loathsome Express editor.

Just finished season 2 too.

Can't wait for third - I've seen the new opening credits and that's that.

Looking forward to season 3

The Black Oil

snubbleste wrote: »

Excellent series.
Why is Katrine's flat so small? I mean she can afford something bigger on her wage, can't she? or is this the way most single Danes live?

iirc, it's something she mentioned in the first season...around the time she was going to stay with her mother 'living like a student', or something like that. It's probably small so the All the President's Men poster can be in almost every shot. :pac:

TICKLE_ME_ELMO wrote: »

Although
there was a scene at the start where Birgitte was getting something out of her office bathroom cabinet and the pills were really obvious in the shot. I was thinking why do they want me to notice the pills? So as soon as she left him in the office I realised where it was going.

Hmm, I didn't notice the pills in this one, maybe a previous episode I can't recall, but yeah, once he wasn't headed to the meeting, and went for the bathroom, it was game over.

part time punk

The Black Oil wrote: »

iirc, it's something she mentioned in the first season...around the time she was going to stay with her mother 'living like a student', or something like that. It's probably small so the All the President's Men poster can be in almost every shot. :pac:

I think it makes a nice balance to the fab Danish furniture porn of Byrgitte's house Seriously though this is probably the best thing on tv at the moment, certainly the only one I'd look forward to. Loving the double episodes. Find I might just guess what's going to happen but only a minute or two before it does, it's not nearly as telegraphed as so much else on tv.

TICKLE_ME_ELMO

part time punk wrote: »

I think it makes a nice balance to the fab Danish furniture porn of Byrgitte's house Seriously though this is probably the best thing on tv at the moment, certainly the only one I'd look forward to. Loving the double episodes. Find I might just guess what's going to happen but only a minute or two before it does, it's not nearly as telegraphed as so much else on tv.

Yes! I find that too. Like you kind of figure it out with the characters. I had no idea what the Labor guys were up to with the rumours and embarrassing their leader and what not and then just before they made their move I figured it out. It's very cleverly written, but then I think that's the strength of it. I remember reading an article about it and they were saying how this initiative from the TV guys was to put everything completely in the hand of the writers. No pandering to fan bases, or advertising pressure or anything like that. There's the one group of writers the whole way through and they're in charge.

seligehgit

born2bwild wrote: »

The current Danish PM is a chick, too.

Even hotter than Brigitte.

We get Inda....

LOL,ah Katrine is'nt half bad.:pac:Anybody reckon there is a certain subliminal chemistry between Birgitte and Kasper.I think he is great as the Rasputin like character.Reckon Alastair Campbell would have got the chop and he was considered the master of the dark arts in terms of spin doctoring.

Kiwi_knock

Finally watched the 3rd and 4th episodes. It is some pace they are going at, doing and concluding a storyline in one episode that could actually be spread over a season. And they still manage to make the storyline believable. The driver Kim is one lucky man. It does a good mix of politics and personal life, while still making it very believable. One of the best shows on TV at the moment.

seligehgit

CJhaughey wrote: »

Funny how some of the characters from other Scan-series seem to pop up again and again.
The car sales guy who lost his son in Afghanistan was the Prime Minister from the Killing II.

It is amazing the level of crossover between Borgen and Forbrydelsen,just waiting for Saga Noren from Broen to pop up!!Scandinavian drama whither of the political or crime genre is streets ahead of anything produced in English speaking world.

TICKLE_ME_ELMO

seligehgit wrote: »

It is amazing the level of crossover between Borgen and Forbrydelsen,just waiting for Saga Noren from Broen to pop up!!Scandinavian drama whither of the political or crime genre is streets ahead of anything produced in English speaking world.

Saga was in Sweden, it's unlikely she'll show up. Martin Rohde might pop up though

Infoanon

Tonights episodes - Brilliant Television (S2 Ep5&6) especially Ep.6

TICKLE_ME_ELMO

Man, that 2nd episode was emotional. Not ashamed to say I teared up at least twice. The series seems to be flying by this year. Only two more weeks

Kiwi_knock

Each episode of Borgen is better than the last. The second episode, was especially powerful. It was unsettling and difficult to watch at times, but it was brilliant TV. Definitely one of the best shows on TV, certainly not afraid to shy away from any subject.

trishasaffron

Glad to see I wasn't alone - I bawled my eyes out when Jasper's secret was coming out - I wanted to tear that right wing politician apart. Did you think he really had a broken arm?

Qualitymark

Wonder if Svend Age Madsenn is based on any Danish politician, with his creepy laugh and populist songs and simplistic right-wing politics.

Eurovisionmad

Fantastic two episodes last night, so fast paced!

On a side not Brigitte is definitely taking those antidepressants the way they made such a play of them and how she broke down in the bathroom after just makes it too obvious!