Dash cam saves your ass (no Roundabout stuff please :)

qz wrote: »

She left the main road though onto a secondary road, and was on it before you were, hence it became the new main road and you seem to have just barged your way onto it from a secondary road.

I know your verdict is the same as mine but I wouldn't agree with the way you understand it.
Neither OP nor the other driver were on the "new main road".
Only reason why the other driver had right of way, is because none of the roads was the main road, and other driver was coming from the right side in relation to OP.

LaughingJoker91 wrote: »

The ROTR are not legislation. Do you expect every driver to learn every Section of every Road Traffic Act?

I explained why I thought what I thought. And I agreed with you that I may have made a mistake with my assumption.

They should at least know the basic ones, like 'keep left' and 'yield'

Neither of which the op did

Tallon wrote: »

They should at least know the basic ones, like 'keep left' and 'yield'

Neither of which the op did

I agree. I explained what I thought, and agreed it may be wrong. But if it was the conditions of which I thought, then I would be correct.

Tallon wrote: »

FFS! Typical Irish driver.. Haven't a clue what your arguing about, but by god, you'll argue it anyway

Learn the ROTR and then come back and tell me the op was in the right :rolleyes:

It would be interesting to see a google maps image of it before coming to any conclusions of near certainty.

robbie7730 wrote: »

It would be interesting to see a google maps image of it before coming to any conclusions of near certainty.

It would be brilliant, yeah. Even name the place and I can look myself, but it's fairly clear cut from the video

Tallon wrote: »

It would be brilliant, yeah. Even name the place and I can look myself, but it's fairly clear cut from the video

Well then, your a better boards driver than me:)

If you pause the video at 6seconds both cars are on the same stretch of road. It doesn't matter at this stage what way you designate the road-main road, link, bypass etc. The roads do not meet at the one place so it is not a 3 way junction where you would give way to the person on the right. The other car cut the corner and pulled across in front of the OP. The other car is in the wrong for pulling in front of the OP.

bar32 wrote: »

If you pause the video at 6seconds both cars are on the same stretch of road. It doesn't matter at this stage what way you designate the road-main road, link, bypass etc. The roads do not meet at the one place so it is not a 3 way junction where you would give way to the person on the right. The other car cut the corner and pulled across in front of the OP. The other car is in the wrong for pulling in front of the OP.

Wow!

Tallon wrote: »

Wow!

Indeed.

housetypeb

qz wrote: »

The only reason you were "on" the exit road a fraction before she was is because you failed to give right of way to the traffic which actually had the right of way. Your argument seems to be that you should have been magically gifted the right of way just so you wouldn't have to wait for her to make her turn, which she is entitled to do.

No,It's not a roundabout, she made a left turn,then should have waited until I passed before making her right turn.

She failed to give right of way to me

As you say I was "on" the exit road (past the walls in this case) before her,there would have been no problem if she had made a left turn and then indicated right waiting until I passed-but she cut diagonally across from the get go.

housetypeb wrote: »

No,It's not a roundabout, she made a left turn,then should have waited until I passed before making her right turn.

She failed to give right of way to me

As you say I was "on" the exit road (past the walls in this case) before her,there would have been no problem if she had made a left turn and then indicated right waiting until I passed-but she cut diagonally across from the get go.

I demand a google map at this stage:D

robbie7730 wrote: »

I demand a google map at this stage:D

I'll even settle for a Yahoo map :P

housetypeb

robbie7730 wrote: »

I demand a google map at this stage:D

Believe me I'm trying google maps but my browser is causing problems,
skibbereen, market street, cost cutters petrol station, bypass road at the back.

Tallon wrote: »

Finally

Here we are.

Google maps were crap.

http://binged.it/SdvC25

After seeing this map, I sustain my opinion.
It's a junction of 3 roads of equal importance, and therefore OP was supposed to give way to other car which was coming from his right side.

CiniO wrote: »

After seeing this map, I sustain my opinion.
It's a junction of 3 roads of equal importance, and therefore OP was supposed to give way to other car which was coming from his right side.

Yea it looks that way alright.

I would also tend to agree with Tallon and CiniO now.

I accept I was wrong.

housetypeb

That's it, took you a minute for what I'm trying for the last hour.

housetypeb wrote: »

That's it, took you a minute for what I'm trying for the last hour.

Google maps has no coverage of the spot where it was, at decent resolution. Was just looking on the bing site when the spot was already linked by LJ91.

I can now conclude that the op was 1000% in the wrong!

Next time, give way and stop thinking you have priority because someone was talking to someone else and also drove too diagonally for your liking

Jack breen

I want one of these with GPS and a good camera. Are deal extreme any good theh have a rake of them on show.

It looks like a staggered crossroads to me! I'm sticking to my guns and stand by my first decision! I'd draw it for ye if I could but basically think of the letter T, turned upside down, with another junction sticking out to the right...hope that makes sense. As someone said, no signs anywhere. We have debated for over an hour. You just have to make the best decision you can in real-time.

Tallon wrote: »

I can now conclude that the op was 1000% in the wrong!

Next time, give way and stop thinking you have priority because someone was talking to someone else and also drove too diagonally for your liking

Yes a good conclusion alright, judging by the strong evidence presented.

bar32 wrote: »

It looks like a staggered crossroads to me! I'm sticking to my guns and stand by my first decision! I'd draw it for ye if I could but basically think of the letter T, turned upside down, with another junction sticking out to the right...hope that makes sense. As someone said, no signs anywhere. We have debated for over an hour. You just have to make the best decision you can in real-time.

If ever in doubt, slow down and anticipate the worst, don't continue on and get annoyed because someone didn't do what you thought they were going to do

Also, op, I'd be interested in hearing the audio, I'd say its entertaining to say the least

Cedrus

It's not 3 roads of equal importance, the op came out of a shop car park, he should have yielded to that car and he should also yield to any car coming from the left as well.

Tallon wrote: »

If ever in doubt, slow down and anticipate the worst, don't continue on and get annoyed because someone didn't do what you thought they were going to do

Also, op, I'd be interested in hearing the audio, I'd say its entertaining to say the least

Id say most of us have interesting audio outbursts at some time, even when we knew we were in the wrong. But it would be interesting to hear the op audio alright.

allthedoyles

The OP driver crossed two roads / white lines ( maybe imaginary ones )

Totally in the wrong .

There is another dash cam in this thread somewhere which is similar ,- A car is on a roundabout and the dash cam driver just bullies his way in front of a car and thinks he was in the right too .

bar32 wrote: »

It looks like a staggered crossroads to me! I'm sticking to my guns and stand by my first decision! I'd draw it for ye if I could but basically think of the letter T, turned upside down, with another junction sticking out to the right...hope that makes sense. As someone said, no signs anywhere. We have debated for over an hour. You just have to make the best decision you can in real-time.

Cedrus wrote: »

It's not 3 roads of equal importance, the op came out of a shop car park, he should have yielded to that car and he should also yield to any car coming from the left as well.

So in general bar32 reckons the main road goes to the petrol station, and there is a turn to the side to the estate.
While Cedrus thinks the main road goes into the estate, and there is a side turn into the gate.

Any reasons for such interpretation, provided there is no indication in form of any road signs or signage, and also all 3 roads seem to be nearly all at 120degrees angle between each other?>

Cedrus wrote: »

It's not 3 roads of equal importance, the op came out of a shop car park, he should have yielded to that car and he should also yield to any car coming from the left as well.

But he has exited the car park and is out on the road when the incident occurs.