BostonB wrote: » S2 is much better phone. But they are at completely different price points.
chrislad wrote: » How is it much better? Ignoring the app ecosystem, which isn't really relevant for a lot of people who just want internet, facebook and a good camera.
Francie Barrett wrote: » Your 13 year old will only care about facebook and whatsapp anyway.
DjFlin wrote: » That's very untrue. Once the next Temple Run/Angry Birds/Draw Something comes out and doesn't hit WP7, your kids will let you know. Believe me.
Francie Barrett wrote: » All on Windows Phone.
hadoken13 wrote: » In relation to the lack of apps, to be honest I think this has become an invalid con for this phone (or WP7 phones in general) as all the main apps are available.
BostonB wrote: » microSD, up to 32GB 4.3 inches vs 3.7 Will get latest OS Front 2mp camera 1080p@30fps video capture Dual-core 1.2 vs single core 1.4 microUSB v2.0 (MHL), USB On-the-go Li-Ion 1650 mAh vs Li-Ion 1450 mAh Bluetooth v3.0 vs 2.1 1 GB RAM vs 512mb In general terms the camera and sound quality get much poorer reviews on the 800 than the S2. That said its fine for a mid priced phone. But not a top priced phone. But under 200 the 800 is a great deal and personally I think the GUI is much better than Android. The S2 is a 400+ phone though.
SK1979 wrote: » Thanks for the advice lads. My daughter would be mainly using it for Facebook, etc so she wouldn't miss the app's that much. She's not invested in iTunes or Apple / Android eco systems so it really makes sense to get this for the cracking price on PAYG through Meteor. I'll probably sign her up to the rolling 30 day sim only play then for €20 a month that gives the 200 mins / texts and 1gb data. That'll work out a lot cheaper than trying to get a S2 etc.
chrislad wrote: » ...Not trying to be argumentative, but I dislike when people call specs. You can't say that a 4.3in screen is better than a 3.7in. It's dependent on the person. .... None of those 'features' are worth an extra 250e either!
BostonB wrote: » LOL. You're gonna hate the 820 with WP8 then because its pretty much the same hardware and features of the S2 and Android. 1080p@30fps Bluetooth v3.1 1 GB RAM VGA front cam 4.3 inches Li-Ion 1650 mAh Dual-core 1.5 GHz microSD, up to 32 GB
BostonB wrote: » No idea, he said better hardware wasn't "worth" it.
BostonB wrote: » Sorry but you rubbished better hardware as being not needed. Almost all of that list has nothing to do with GUI resources. Like bigger screen, better camera, front facing camera, more storage, faster processing, future OS compatibility, etc. The 820 has clearly superior hardware to the 800. The 820 is almost identical to the S2 in hardware.
chrislad wrote: » Again, no, I didn't. Better hardware is obviously better, but there's no need to have 2gb of RAM in a WP. It doesn't need it, and you'll notice little, if any performance improvement.
From a RAM perspective, it appears that the minimum hardware requirements is dependent on the screen resolution. However, note that this is the “bare minimum” that Microsoft allows its OEMs to have in their Windows Phone 8 hardware, and we noticed that on the official Windows Phone 8 “How-to” website, a line raised our attention: Memory (RAM). Some apps and features won’t work on phones with less than 1 GB of RAM. To see how much memory your phone has, check the manufacturer’s website or your phone’s documentation. Microsoft did not specify exactly which apps or features won’t work on phones with less than 1GB of RAM. However, looking at the list of all announced Windows Phone 8 devices in our Windows Phone Gallery, we can see that most devices out there will not be affected by this limitation (Nokia decided to put 1GB of RAM for its Lumia 810, 820 and 822 phones despite having a WVGA resolution), with the exception of the HTC 8S. The lower-end HTC 8S is currently the only announced Windows Phone 8 device that features only 512 MB of RAM, which means that it may have some software limitations similar to the 256MB devices in the Windows Phone 7.x era.
chrislad wrote: » Bigger screen is not a better screen. It's just bigger. AMOLED vs Super LCD would be a hardware consideration that I would say is justified, but 4.3 vs 3.7 is purely an aesthetic choice made by the consumer.
chrislad wrote: » I didn't rubbish front facing cameras either, I simply said they are not used by the vast majority of people. For some people, it's necessary, but I've had very few people ask me about the quality of a front facing camera. In fact, I can think of only one, who wanted it for Skype.
chrislad wrote: » For the last time, it's not the hardware that governs the phone speed. It's the OS's use of that hardware that does, and Windows Phone needs less resources to run smoothly compared to Android.
irish-stew wrote: » Is it? Although cant find a BOI app yet. Only seems to be on Andriod or Apple.
evolutionqy7 wrote: » Its coming, Words with Friends and Draw something [do people still play that]came out a couple of days ago. Next on the list as far as I can remember is temple run
DjFlin wrote: » Exactly my point. Getting the apps on time is more important than just getting them eventually. I've had a Windows Phone since Day 1, and I love it. The only problem I have with it, is the ecosystem. All OS's have trouble with their ecosystems to begin with. Android only caught up on iOS about a year ago. Windows Phone needs time to mature, and there isnt much that can be done about it by anyone. Though Microsoft could speed it up a bit by giving out free phones to Devs like they didnt when the original WP7's launched.
SK1979 wrote: » Can I ask another question? It's more in general to windows phones but is it possible to buy prepaid cards with money on them to spend in the marketplace? Similar to iTunes cards I guess. Cheers.
ryaner1979 wrote: » Can anyone on 02 send and receive pic messages on this phone yet? O2 are telling me to download the connection set up app from the marketplace. I cant find it. Is it there??
