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The Rebellion will begin in Donegal.

Mint Sauce

Isolated from the rest of the country geographically and politically barr a few mile strip of land in Leitrim. No or little infrastructure connecting it to the rest of the country, and more so now with a new cross boarder road link scrapped. People having to travel many hours for life saving cancer treatment, with a good few years before a new centre opens in Derry.

That is just to name a few examples that people of Donegal are sick of. Is it any wonder that yet again, its two constituencies have rejected another consitution change.

The Goats Don't Shave song does ring true sometimes.

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Where To

I wonder if I slagged off Dublin in the same vein Donegal is getting a berating in this thread how would it go?

Some of the comments are borderline racist.

Local-womanizer

phoenix999 wrote: »

Well lets face it, Cork is the biggest county in Ireland. And with half a million people living in the county, it's amazing that more people aren't killed on those poor B roads.

True but it has a big central populace in and around the city, with afaik a very good public transport system and roads for commuters.

Letterkenny is Donegal's biggest town with a population just under 30,000. The roads in and out if the town are shocking and there is no proper public transport system in and around the town.

I'm not making excuses but just looking at the reality that is present. A lot of it is also down to driver attitude as well, I agree. I know people who when younger thought nothing if buying a runner for €50 and joy-riding and getting chased by the gardai and wrecking the car and head home and struggle with broken bones or ribs. Doesn't happen as much now thankfully.

dj jarvis wrote: »

have to agree with you on that one :-)
we arrived on one of the islands to be greeted by a 20 year old vw passat with a huge hole from rust in the bonnet , dutch registered and had a pen draw sign in the cracked windscreen marked " taxi "

later on in one of the pubs , got the shout that the cops were on the ferry , i have never seen roads clear as quick in my life !!! ( not that there was much on them TBH )
have to say loved every minute of it and will be back

Sounds just about right!

overshoot

er road deaths in donegal... move on people we are the leading lights now, 6 on our 6000km of ****e roads in 2011, get your figures up to speed! :pac:

also on a side note i remember working out the deaths around my part of the county (say 30km all directions) and a sizable chunk of the deaths were not donegal people... the bad thing is though pretty much all were on the good N roads. falling asleep came up a few times

phoenix999

mattjack wrote: »

We could combine Donegal and Cork and call the new county ''Dork''.

I'm sure that would go down well

seven_eleven

Rasheed wrote: »

And this matters to you because.....???

Because Im interested to know what caused the deaths of 8 people, 7 of which were teens. There was a big report into it and it needs to be highlighted to make people aware in terms of road safety.

Local-womanizer

seven_eleven wrote: »

Because Im interested to know what caused the deaths of 8 people, 7 of which were teens. There was a big report into it and it needs to be highlighted to make people aware in terms of road safety.

It came down ultimately to one driver who showed seriously bad judgment on the night in question. That accident had serious long lasting emotional trauma to a lot in this county.

The accident probably would have happened had their been 5 people in his car, or 2.

Where To

seven_eleven wrote: »

Because Im interested to know what caused the deaths of 8 people, 7 of which were teens. There was a big report into it and it needs to be highlighted to make people aware in terms of road safety.

Case is still ongoing, whenever there is an outcome you'll hear about it.

seven_eleven

Thank you for the replies.. I understand its a very sensitive matter but I dont believe in hushing and sweeping it under the carpet. Attitudes like that just prevent progression and is similar to the now fading stigma towards suicide.

Pottler

The rebellion may well begin in Donegal, but by the time they get to anywhere that matters, the enthusiasm will have worn off and they'll eventually get mired down in Longford where someone will rob the wheels off it. By the time they hit Kildare, they'll be in tatters, desperate for a pint and starved for a hang sangwidge. I doubt Dublin is sh1tting it.:D

overshoot

seven_eleven wrote: »

Because Im interested to know what caused the deaths of 8 people, 7 of which were teens. There was a big report into it and it needs to be highlighted to make people aware in terms of road safety.

locked and hushed away you said in your last post... you asked on the condolences thread, hardly the place. would have gone so far off topic and into rants, it was rightly closed. it was also a zombie thread by then a year since the last post. why didnt you just start a new thread?:rolleyes:

and aint heard any official report other than the passat driver being in court for dangerous driving casusing death but then thats a automatic with 8 in the car. heard a few different stories about what happened with the case ongoing and none more than hearsay i wont be posting them

hmmm

I love Donegal & I love the people of Donegal, but they are receiving a massive amount more from the state than they are paying in taxes. They can go around with this chip on their shoulder about dem fellas up in dublin, but it'll get them nothing extra. They need to focus on their own product, particularly tourism which is really under-developed compared to other parts of the country - Errigal for example is one of their major attractions, yet there isn't even a proper path built.

Mint Sauce

phoenix999 wrote: »

Wasn't Donegal the only county to reject the Children's Referendum? I think Donegal should be the new 'Rebel County'.

One of the Dublin constitutancies also rejected it. Donegal also rejected the Fiscal treaty, and both attempts at Lisbon. Out of them 3 treaties, Donegal were the only constitutancy the reject at least one of them.

super_furry

Where To wrote: »

I wonder if I slagged off Dublin in the same vein Donegal is getting a berating in this thread how would it go?

Some of the comments are borderline racist.

Tis a disgrace Joe, really really terrible Joe, just shocking!

Where To

super_furry wrote: »

Tis a disgrace Joe, really really terrible Joe, just shocking!

Yeah the Joe Duffy fascination would be a good place to start alright.:pac:

Give me Shaun Doherty any day.

[Deleted User]

If a rebellion did start in Donegal would anyone notice any difference?

Where To

Deleted User wrote: »

If a rebellion did start in Donegal would anyone notice any difference?

RTE wouldn't anyway.

Cossax

irish-stew wrote: »

One of the Dublin constitutancies also rejected it. Donegal also rejected the Fiscal treaty, and both attempts at Lisburn. Out of them 3 treaties, Donegal were the only constitutancy the reject at least one of them.

:pac:

flogging a dead horse

Northern Donegal is a sweet part of the world. Lovely scenery and lovely people.

Capt'n Midnight

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

United Kingdom of Great Britain,Northern Ireland and Donegal has a nice ring to it

look at the trouble they had with Berwick upon Tweed

they were at war with Russia until 1966

K-9

dj jarvis wrote: »

as for dole fraud , it is well know that there is a major problem with dole fraud in the boarder area ( not with just residents of the ROI it has to be said )
google the life out of it if you want - volumes of print media reports on it
so much so this web page is up on the DSW site
http://www.welfare.ie/EN/Press/PressReleases/2009/Pages/pr060309.aspx

That's amazing, who'd have thunk cross border welfare fraud would occur more often in border counties?

SafeSurfer

Donegal people have a proud tradition of resisting oppression. Donegal held out in it's resistance to English rule long after other counties had been conquered and colonised.

Cork claims to be the Rebel County. Few know that they got this title by supporting a pretender to the English throne.

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Why_is_cork_known_as_the_rebel_county

Donegal was and is the real rebel county.

ArtSmart

Capt'n Midnight wrote: »

look at the trouble they had with Berwick upon Tweed

they were at war with Russia until 1966

surely wee Daniel could smooth things over if it got to that point?

surely. with a h

purplepanda

SafeSurfer wrote: »

Donegal people have a proud tradition of resisting oppression. Donegal held out in it's resistance to English rule long after other counties had been conquered and colonised.

Cork claims to be the Rebel County. Few know that they got this title by supporting a pretender to the English throne.

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Why_is_cork_known_as_the_rebel_county

Donegal was and is the real rebel county.

The only fighting in Donegal in 1798 was between the French & British Fleets offshore :rolleyes:

The Flight of the Earls was a bit one sided as well :pac:

danniemcq

Right after reading through this I’ll throw in my 2c (yeah that’s right cent not pence cause yes we do use the euro!)

For the people saying this is a Donegal bashing thread etc so what? We don’t care, we know a lot of people don’t like us and we love it.

We are the back end of nowhere, we had an influx of outsiders during the booms building their precious holiday homes up here that now display for sale signs through the county. This in my opinion will mean that prices for houses in Donegal will remain lower than the rest of the country for another few years, no jobs means more people leaving meaning less need for houses on sale. We aren’t blameless for these being built in the same way other counties are blotted with them too.

As for public transport, yes we don’t have the amount of people that Dublin has for instance, but when you actually look at the system we have up here its laughable. A lot of the satellite towns within say a 30 minute drive of Letterkenny (our biggest town) there is generally 2 buses a day, early morning and again in early evening meaning if you are lucky enough to get a job it’s a nightmare going to and fro (job being 9-5? Bus from rathmullen gets in at 8ish and returns at 4 so kinda ruins your chance of getting iot sue to work) these buses are overcrowded during school term and are so old they are rusted through the bottom.

As another poster said about deaths on our roads, the majority of traffic accidents and deaths I hear about involve people that aren’t from the county. Our roads are terrible and people coming in don’t realize it. It’s a sad statistic but thankfully the number of deaths are dropping. Be it due to lack of tourists, better roads, better education or a combination of all 3 its to early to tell.

As for our voting habits, the childrens referendum remember it was quite close throughout the country, a lot of our youth are no longer in the county meaning the old biddies hold the majority and we all know what they are like. And of the youth I’ve never seen so many people not vote in something. I think the thought that the referendum would pass regardless meant that a lot of people just stayed at home.

The other treaties? How many of them would you have voted differently on looking back on it now?

The hospital staff up here much like the rest of the country are stretched to the limit and so are the patients, It would be laughable if it wasn’t so serious, Ditto with the cops, mates tried to call Letterkenny Garda station and the phone was answered by the station in Buncrana which is about an hour away, not perfect if you are getting robbed/chased or reporting something serious.

People saying that other counties subsidize us through tax, well how many Donegal people are working in those other counties, its not that we don’t want to work, we just can’t because of no opportunities. Fingers crossed the new cross border broadband plan which promises crazy fast speeds will mean more companies will set up shop here meaning people don’t have to leave and we get to pay our own dues.

Let the Donegal bashing continue, we don’t care, we won’t take it personally (just remember when the revolution comes you will be the first against the wall)

TL:DR; if you are coming up don't forget your passport

dizzywizlw

You just remember that you're a smaller minority than the polish and they'll fight on our side.

Seriously though, we're not bashing you, you just do not matter,

at all.

danniemcq

dizzywizlw wrote: »

You just remember that you're a smaller minority than the polish and they'll fight on our side.

Seriously though, we're not bashing you, you just do not matter,

at all.

think you are forgetting something, If for examples sake Donegal started a rebellion it wouldn’t be a land grab (well maybe a bit for farming ya know) the pressure would be on the government to wrest the power back. How though? Donegal is perfect for guerrilla warfare, vast expanse of emptiness between towns making it perfect for ambushes (think final scene in Michael Collins, sorry for the spoiler) plus there is no point in putting a blockade on the boarder as we can farm and fish, both would be affected yes but impossible to stop. You also can’t block the boarder to the six counties, in theory the British Army would put a stop to all crossings but just like arms, drugs and fuel have been smuggled over in the past either over the river (that’s a foot wide in places) or underground.

As you can see in Syria at the moment in Allepo the Rebels are vastly outnumbered, vastly outgunned and are receiving minimal support.

The Irish Army isn’t as advanced as Syria’s yet the rebels here would have the exact same weaponry as the rebels plus if you looked hard enough you would find a number of shall we call them experienced rebels already?

How many soldiers would have to be killed before public pressure became to much and an agreement was made. It might not be full independence as the government would want to save some face but it would be a start.

9959

Frankly I'm more interested in their self-proclaimed 'sexy accents'.
We know about their driving habits, Jim McDaid gave us a demonstration of that right here in Dublin.

Is it the 'sexy accent' of Pat 'the cope' Gallagher or perhaps former minister for something Mary Coughlan?

There's me thinking that Juliette Binoche had a sexy accent, you live and learn.

SafeSurfer

purplepanda wrote: »

The only fighting in Donegal in 1798 was between the French & British Fleets offshore :rolleyes:

The Flight of the Earls was a bit one sided as well :pac:

The 1798 rebellion lasted for 4 months. Guess how long the Nine Year's War lasted.

danniemcq

9959 wrote: »

Frankly I'm more interested in their self-proclaimed 'sexy accents'.
We know about their driving habits, Jim McDaid gave us a demonstration of that right here in Dublin.

Is it the 'sexy accent' of Pat 'the cope' Gallagher or perhaps former minister for something Mary Coughlan?

There's me thinking that Juliette Binoche had a sexy accent, you live and learn.

http://www.independent.ie/breaking-news/national-news/donegal-accent-sounds-sexiest-3032083.html

and you can't really use those 2 as examples, you wouldn't say Joan Burton's accent is a standard in Dublin for example.

Tombo2001

phoenix999 wrote: »

Wasn't Donegal the only county to reject the Children's Referendum? I think Donegal should be the new 'Rebel County'.

If the people of Donegal voted against this referendum because of some sort of protest vote against "everything", that is just pathetic.

Reminds me of the time a taxi driver told me he would vote against the Nice treaty because "he wouldnt give them the satisfaction"........he didnt know a damn thing about the Nice treaty.