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Alex Ferguson on Ferdinand and Roberts

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So Sir Alex Ferguson has been having a go at Jason Roberts during the week for not supporting the Kick It Out campaign by wearing their shirt.

Rio Ferdinand has now decided not to wear it in protest against (presumably similarly to Roberts) the lack of care being taken against racism in the game recently. Ferguson is very embarassed about this and not pleased with his player.

What do people feel about this? I respect the two players decisions not to wear the shirt and think that Roberts especially is to be applauded for making his point known.

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mosstin

dooferoaks wrote: »

Supporting his brother is the PFAs job. Irregardless, if Ferdinand wants to make a point, he should have the balls to tell his manager before the manager goes on national television and says his players will be wearing the t shirts.

Bull****. Why should a black player support a token organisation that the FA seemingly support in order to give the impression that they're doing something about racism? Why should ALL players have to wear the t-shirt just because SAF says so? He dug his own hole on this one.

Mr Magnolia

John Terry roared to Rio's brother in the most derogatory manner and SAF is embarrassed because Rio refused to wear a t-shirt.

There's a mind-shift required.

CSF

dooferoaks wrote: »

Supporting his brother is the PFAs job. Irregardless, if Ferdinand wants to make a point, he should have the balls to tell his manager before the manager goes on national television and says his players will be wearing the t shirts.

Fair enough on the Fergie communication thing. He probably kept it quiet knowing Fergie wouldn't let him not wear one.

So what do this charity do then? Other than get footballers to wear t-shirts? I'd have certainly been expecting them to expressing their disgust at the FAs treatment of the issue and I'm sure Rio and co figured they'd be getting this support last time they wore tshirts in support.

I mean, really, what is the point in having all the Premiership players wear tshirts when the issue isn't even taken seriously.

Red Crow

Bodhisopha wrote: »

To call a black man a "choc-ice" as Ferdinand did in a round about way is more offensive than calling a black man a "little negro" or a "black cnut". If anything, the campaign should've discouraged him from wearing the shirt.

As for Roberts, he's just trying to make a name for himself.

lol

MUSEIST

rarnes1 wrote: »

The Reading manager Brian McDermott:

"Jason has had a very strong view of it and I respect Jason's view," he told Sky Sports News. "It was important to him what he did today. I 100 per cent back him."

Suprised Fergie isn't giving his player the same level of support tbh.

Just like ferdinand it's not exactly clear what his point is. Is he saying the charity are not doing enough and thus having a go at them or is it a point against the fa and bans not being long enough/

Mikeyt086

lol Rio is just givin' Fergie a nuva merkin' innit. lol Fergie u got well merked blad.

Leiva

Gill

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The Reading manager Brian McDermott:

"Jason has had a very strong view of it and I respect Jason's view," he told Sky Sports News. "It was important to him what he did today. I 100 per cent back him."

Suprised Fergie isn't giving his player the same level of support tbh.

Dozen Wicked Words

CSF wrote: »

Why should he promote a charity who haven't done enough to support his brother in a time of need?

Supporting his brother is the PFAs job. Irregardless, if Ferdinand wants to make a point, he should have the balls to tell his manager before the manager goes on national television and says his players will be wearing the t shirts.

CSF

MUSEIST wrote: »

The problem I have with this is that I am genuinely confused as to what point ferdinand is trying to make, does he even know

Why should he promote a charity who haven't done enough to support his brother in a time of need?

MUSEIST

The problem I have with this is that I am genuinely confused as to what point ferdinand is trying to make, does he even know

CSF

Bodhisopha wrote: »

To call a black man a "choc-ice" as Ferdinand did in a round about way is more offensive than calling a black man a "little negro" or a "black cnut". If anything, the campaign should've discouraged him from wearing the shirt.

Bull****. The term wigger is used commonly with ****all stigma.

Leiva

Bodhisopha wrote: »

To call a black man a "choc-ice" as Ferdinand did in a round about way is more offensive than calling a black man a "little negro" or a "black cnut". If anything, the campaign should've discouraged him from wearing the shirt.

As for Roberts, he's just trying to make a name for himself.

No it is not.

Bodhisopha

To call a black man a "choc-ice" as Ferdinand did in a round about way is more offensive than calling a black man a "little negro" or a "black cnut". If anything, the campaign should've discouraged him from wearing the shirt.

As for Roberts, he's just trying to make a name for himself.

CSF

From what I can gather, the lads are doing this to make a point as to how players aren't sufficiently protected from the powers that be when it comes to racial abuse.

I would imagine they're a little disappointed at there not being strong enough public criticism from the charity at the shoddy bans for 2 lads found guilty (please don't make this into an argument over whether Suarez/Terry were guilty, I'm not saying they were, I'm saying the bans were pathetic for someone who was found guilty)

To be honest I'm a little bit disappointed there hasn't been more people taking a stand. Racist abuse is the kind of thing I'd be expecting at least a 6 month ban for, and the argument of 'he said something racist but he isn't a racist' should be punishable by the electric chair.

PhlegmyMoses

dooferoaks wrote: »

Kick It Out is a charity, what would you, or Ferdinand and Roberts have them do?

So why did they refuse to wear the charity's t-shirt.

Not being cynical: Ferdinand and Roberts aren't very bright and don't understand that Kick it Out cant sanction players, teams or anyone else in any shape or form as they aren't in the FA, Premier League or any other hierarchy.

Cynical version: Ferdinand isn't very bright and Roberts is angling for a career after he finishes playing.

Correct. Kick It Out get £300,000 a year in funding. As I said on the United thread, if Ferdinand was serious about this, he would have explained his position and either got involved with KIO and helped to change their mandate as well as contributing some of his cash. As it is, by not saying anything, his stance looks petty and confused. Ferguson is also right to be upset with him. From his conference the previous day, it suggest that Ferdinand never bothered to let Ferguson know what his position on this was.

jenno86

I can't stand Jason Roberts.

That will be all.

Dozen Wicked Words

Kick It Out is a charity, what would you, or Ferdinand and Roberts have them do?

So why did they refuse to wear the charity's t-shirt.

Not being cynical: Ferdinand and Roberts aren't very bright and don't understand that Kick it Out cant sanction players, teams or anyone else in any shape or form as they aren't in the FA, Premier League or any other hierarchy.

Cynical version: Ferdinand isn't very bright and Roberts is angling for a career after he finishes playing.