getz wrote: » i have been unable to get the link up from the magill archives in 1989,but i have found the study on a ian paisleys website, ianpaisley.org/artical.asap%3FArtKey%Dtreatment
Madam wrote: » This will tell you all you need to know about the OO(25 minutes or so in):mad:http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=tAffvb7pNMo Sorry had to answer the front door!!!
steddyeddy wrote: » Nick Griffin, anti gay unionists, unionist history replete with them fighting against peoples civil liberties and yet according to some hear theres massive discrimantion going on in the south. Pot meet kettle!
getzls wrote: » Edit that again Steddy. You're spelling is bloody awful.:cool:
getzls wrote: » steddyeddy wrote: » Nick Griffin, anti gay unionists, unionist history replete with them fighting against peoples civil liberties and yet according to some hear theres massive discrimantion going on in the south. Pot meet kettle! Edit that again Steddy. You're spelling is bloody awful.:cool:
Deleted User wrote: » Ach, some people just get too uptight about things.
Nodin wrote: » If you were stuck with them outside your gaff, you'd be a bit uptight yourself.
Sound of Silence wrote: » If it's only his spelling that you're concerned with, then I can assume that you have no reason to rebut any of his claims. Whilst watching Woodoo's Youtube link, I was honestly surprised by the warmth of a welcome Nick Griffin received at the Covenant Celebrations. People were literally lining up to get a copy of his autograph and to have their picture taken with him! I believe he even commented on his Twitter about how well he was received that day. All this for an odious man who is rightfully reviled in his home Country. So, why is he such an attractive figure to those involved in the Loyal Orders?
HoggyRS wrote: » They are absolute scum of the earth. Is this an example of the "culture" they expect us to respect? videos here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=My5cf2zlkpo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ood8xWX3wSE
Toshchiy Imperatritsy Vselennoy wrote: » I would have put my handbag down in the middle of the circle and started dancing and shaking my little bootie.:P I would have offended everyone equally with my wanton behavouir. I say it probably makes things worse when the south gets involved. As for them coming up here..no it is not part of our culture. And any talk of us joining the common wealth should be politely rebutted.
Fenian Army wrote: » You'd have gotten the crap beaten out of you As for the "south getting involved" they already are, we all are, this happened in Ireland, its Irish people doing it and Irish citizens suffering. Kindly leave aside the partitionist nonsense - pretending that its nothing to do with you does no one any favours. Thats what makes things worse.
getz wrote: » how can you stand there with a straight face and say that,we are talking about 18% of irishmen who left ireland to go to another country because they were protestant,it seems strange to me to see that northern irelands population never changes dispite the troubles,yet south of the border over 40,000 young irishmen are leaving the country every year to live in protestant foreign countries like england,scotland,wales and northern ireland,
Sindri wrote: » Here's a decent documentary about an Orange Order Lodge. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HxTDzrDS1mg I remember seeing a different documentary about a Scottish OOL and one of the senior members called deValera a fascist and said that fascism was the default political standpoint of a Roman Catholic.
jugger0 wrote: » I already said they left because they wanted to, they weren't driven out anyway thats for sure, no anti protestant riots or anti protestant laws. 18% seems rather high i suspect you might be making that up, either way the discrimination you're talking about never happened in any way, shape or form compared to what was going on up north against Catholics.
Toshchiy Imperatritsy Vselennoy wrote: » They are culturally Irish but politically British. With that comes the reality that the south can't keep dealing with it at huge political expense. To be honest what do the vast majority of people in the north contribute to the Rep of Ireland? Some individuals contribute to to sports and the arts but on the whole they contribute to GB. It is attitudes like yours that are actually harming them more. You guys are your own worst enemies.
Slurryface wrote: » Whatever about the OO, you can hardly dispute the claim that Facisim is the default position of the Roman Catholic Church, it always was and always will be.
Toshchiy Imperatritsy Vselennoy wrote: » Um no i would not have. The South is thankfully not involved. No it is not my country. Partition is the reality, to leave it aside is fantasy.The majority of nationalists want NI to rmain part of the UK. Does that not suggest they want the UK to deal with it? It is not my country. I would put the republic's interests first. They have always put the North's interests first. It did not happen in the republic of Ireland, which is my country. I want my country put first especially now. The people 'doing it' are the ones who would be offended i would wager if you called them Irish. And the rest are starting to find a separate NI identity. They are culturally Irish but politically British. With that comes the reality that the south can't keep dealing with it at huge political expense. To be honest what do the vast majority of people in the north contribute to the Rep of Ireland? Some individuals contribute to to sports and the arts but on the whole they contribute to GB. It is attitudes like yours that are actually harming them more. You guys are your own worst enemies.
getzls wrote: » OK you say anti-gay Unionists. Do you mean all Unionists are anti-gay?
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