BOHtox wrote: » the government doesn't build houses, have we a shortage?
BOF666 wrote: » I'd imagine some sort of criminal organisation would start policing the country, to their own advantage. So if they made their money from drugs, the streets would be flooded with drugs. Then they'd start demanding protection money from businesses, and if they didn’t pay, they’d be put out of business. So you’ve got a major power, policing the country and controlling all the businesses… Sounds like the beginnings of a government to me! And the only way to get them out of power would be another gang taking over, which would probably be violent. Can’t see it ending well either way…
Wompa1 wrote: » Then the pimps will be using the crack to keep their whores in line
K-9 wrote: » Yet we've an over supply and the biggest property crash in Western Europe.. Waits for the blame the Government part.
CruelCoin wrote: » This fee would be competed away. Wouldn't happen. A prime example is Somalias mobile phone network. Zero regulation, yet Somalia is possesing of the one of the worlds best mobile networks in terms of call quality, reception coverage and cost of calls.http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/4020259.stmhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communications_in_Somalia
"Despite the absence of law and order and a functional court system, bills are paid and contracts are enforced by relying on Somalia's traditional clan system, Mr Abdullahi says. Mobile target But in a country divided into hundreds of fiefdoms run by rival warlords, security is a major concern. While Telcom Somalia has some 25,000 mobile customers - and a similar number have land lines - you very rarely see anyone walking along the streets of Mogadishu chatting on their phone, in case this attracts the attention of a hungry gunman.But despite their success, the telecoms companies say that like the population at large, they are desperate to have a government. Mogadishu's phone engineers are going to be kept busy "We are very interested in paying taxes," says Mr Abdullahi - not a sentiment which often passes the lips of a high-flying businessman. And Mr Abdulkadir at the Global Internet Company fully agrees."We badly need a government," he says. "Everything starts with security - the situation across the country. "All the infrastructure of the country has collapsed - education, health and roads. We need to send our staff abroad for any training." Another problem for companies engaged in the global telecoms business is paying their foreign partners. At present, they use Somalia's traditional "Hawala" money transfer companies to get money to Dubai, the Middle East's trading and financial hub. With a government would come a central bank, which would make such transactions far easier.
ScumLord wrote: » Everything would end up being much cheaper once you don't have government organizations like health and safety, fire regulations, standards and all those organizations that increase the cost of services by making them operate to a safe standard. Instead of buying an expensive boiler that won't explode you can get one that might explode for half the cost. Instead of getting a car that has minimum safety standards like seatbelts you can get one that has none the upshot of which would be a much faster car due to it not being weighed down with safety features. Instead of having schools full of teachers educated to a standard just get someone we believe to be smart to educate our children to our believes. Priests or GAA players would be ideal.
martingriff wrote: » I think you are getting a small bit carried away but I will agree that standards will go down.
bluewolf wrote: » Until the multinationals don't want to hire workers anymore because our educational standards aren't high enough and they complain to the media about us. No wait, that already happens
speedboatchase wrote: » Thankfully I pay no tax where I live now but the government (Qatar) can easily foot the bill
BOHtox wrote: » The government don't sell food, does that mean nowhere does? the government doesn't build houses, have we a shortage? The government didn't create boards.ie, but we have it now. If the government didn't do sewerage, a private company would!
TeddyTedson wrote: » Take it with a grain of salt. This is After Hours...on the internet. I'm not presenting a manifesto to the people of Ireland. Well not yet. If you can't get over the fact it's stupid then just don't post in it, simples.
TeddyTedson wrote: » Roads would all be tolls. All public transport would be... er.. private I guess. No medical benefits/child support/pensions. But I guess you could always have insurance and take out your own pensions. I would have more more money I feel but am much happier having these services in place even if they're not exactly run efficiently. Private schools would sure make having kids expensive. But just think of all the tax money you have paid over the years...
Skylinehead wrote: » So we pay a private company to run the Gardai. Sounds like taxes :pac:
Blowfish wrote: » The difference being, the Gardai have a monopoly on private security/law enforcement, where as without government, there'd be numerous companies competing for the role and you could choose between them, or even choose not to pay for private security/law enforcement at all.
Blowfish wrote: » There wouldn't be 'laws' as such, but there are various ideas on private dispute resolution services, most likely this is theorised to be based on reputation. Some of it is covered here.
Guy:Incognito wrote: » Stick around till the oil runs out
Khalid Cuddly Hairline wrote: » Here's a scenario: A fiscally-broke young woman (Lucy) is raped. She has no idea who did it. Does a private security/law enforcement investigate the entire crime? She doesn't have any money to hire them with, though. She can't afford counseling sessions afterwards or a trip to the hospital to have her wounds tended to. Perhaps a crime insurance scheme has been implemented and she would have had a policy taken out. Unfortunately she only got the cheapest policy (she is broke, after all) and that doesn't cover more expensive crimes such a rape and murder. Tough luck, Lucy. Should've gone for the deluxe package.
bluewolf wrote: » Of all the things to pick as an example, picking the time the govt gave all sorts of tax incentives to buy, buy, buy and build, build, build is not a good one to make your point
humbert wrote: » Although. Lucy is a financially unfortunate Dub with a grating lower class accent who's on welfare. She gets attacked and raped. She reports it to the gardai who assume she was just drunk and fighting. Nothing happens.
ScumLord wrote: » Of course they'll go down because there would be few repercussions to companies for making sub standard products. Companies rarely implement any safety standard off their own bat and in most cases fight them tooth and nail. They could also start making faulty products and there would be no comeback for the customer.
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