Roger Sterling wrote: » Clearly you're wrong when more than one person in the past couple of pages alone has said they'd prefer CL success. Given that there's nowhere near 1000 posters in those few pages I'd say its very much up for debate. Love how something that is very much up to the opinion of the individual isn't for debate. At all. Cool!
nicklauski wrote: » I actually can't believe it's even being debated. I would have thought everyone would say the league is first priority.
TheDoc wrote: » I'm with you on this one. While obviously it is nice to win the CL, you cannot outweight going through 30+ games in a season and being crowned champions. There is alot of cannon fodder in the CL to be fair, hence why failing to qualify is a disaster. But you can also get done over with poor decisions, moment dip in form etc. Being crowned domestic champions should hold alot more water then the Champions League. I still call Liverpools victory the biggest capitulation by a team in the history of football, on the part of AC Milan. Especially with the way the league is hotting up with so many contenders now, its the EPL for me all the way. Chelsea's victory last season pretty much summed up my feelings on the CL as a whole. Absolutely love watching it, great spectacle, but every few years you get a random team winning it who shouldn't.
Hulk Hands wrote: » The CL means more to the vast majority of United fans. You can make all the points about it being a lottery and luck and bread/butter etc, and they're all valid. Doesn't matter. The Nou Camp and Moscow means far more to most fans that any league triumph, bar maybe 94. The losses to barca hurt more than the loss to City in the decider last year. And theyre our enemies. You all remember the champions of England, champions of Europe chant? While line was always louder? And there's no need for definitive proof on this point as always seems to be required on forums. It's common knowledge, simple as
Roger Sterling wrote: » Bet you wouldn't be saying that if United had had more European succes over the years....
bullvine wrote: » What happened in 94 that was so special? Apart from the league win. off the top of my head, the 96 league win takes some beating, after getting rid of all the players and the rise of Keane and performance of Cantona. and dont even get me started on 2009 beating liverpool and claiming 18 titles, no champions league win will ever come close to that.
homerjay2005 wrote: » ill rephrase it then...it shouldnt even be up for debate. and id be pretty sure also, if the players have to choose, it would be the league all the way at the moment. maybe next year, if we regain our crown, then that attitude will change.
as regards peoples opinions on here, even a stopped clock is right two times a day.
Chucky the tree wrote: » Not even the 6th?
Roger Sterling wrote: » Let it all out brother, you'll feel better for it. I'm not sure where this habit of pretending to be all magnanimous towards your hated rivals came from on here anyway? Its football, rivalry and hatred of your traditional foes are its lifeblood. It should be embraced rather than the hypocritical attempts to not appear bitter we see on here all too often . Of course we're bitter. Of course we're obsessed. Its football. I actually bet a lot of the infighting and bitching on here would be solved by people accepting opposition fans will be delighted when you lose. how many threads are derailed by people accusing each other of "obsession" and "bitterness?" If we aqll accepted the flak a little better and engaged in it in a way that doesn't break the charter this place would be aot better off and more craic too, and would also reflect more accurately they way I bet we all are in real life.
homerjay2005 wrote: » no, in fact its me that should be labelling this sorta rubbish at you. if we had won less titles, you'd be saying league.
Jame Gumb wrote: » Hang on, that's not quite the same thing. United's priority when they set out in early August and what they'd prefer to win IF GIVEN THE CHOICE can be different.
kippy wrote: » Are you from/living in the Manchester/Liverpool area? Or are you basing your "hatred" (which is a very strong word btw) on a few lads you know and the amount of Wummery the gang of ye get up to? Personally I believe the only people who should be let away with a position of hatred for another club are those that live in the area of the club they support. Otherwise, it's just funny as that hatred is based on absolutely nothing but perhaps a want of some one-up-man-ship on fans of that club that you know. Liverpool and Manchester are two cities a long way away from here. Why I would hate football clubs in either city is something I cannot comprehend. I might disagree with their business model and might question some of the people paid millions by these clubs, but to hate the clubs and the clubs fans is just moronic tbh.
Roger Sterling wrote: » Doubt it. Back when we only had 9 or 10 leagues I remember looking at us toil in the CL against the likes of Gotherburg and dreaming of being up there with the Milans et al of this world.
homerjay2005 wrote: » the best team doesnt always win a knock out competition, normally the best team wins the league. Liverpool, Porto, Chelsea, 3 very average teams have come out of nowhere to win the CL in the past 8 years, which IMO devalues the competition when it comes down to saying who is the best team, not only in the country, but in europe. Real Madrid are the best team in europe right now, not Chelsea and they are barely in the top 10 imo.
bullvine wrote: » Yeah but the foreign player restriction and the english club ban had a massive effect on the game in fairness in the early 90's.
Felexicon wrote: » Premier League is the trophy we should be setting our sights on every season. If we get a good run in the Champions league well and good. I'm never really gutted when we go out of the CL but my heart sank when Aguero scored against QPR
homerjay2005 wrote: » :eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek: f*ck right off, nothing and i mean nothing, compares to last season. i was at Wembley for 11 final, was in moscow so ive experienced both sides of the coin. ive also experienced the 6-1, ive been there for our last minute winners against them. dont you f8cking dare try to tell me which hurt more, cos you just dont have a f*cking clue. this place is being shown up today for what it is, a bunch of glory hunters who just dont get the importance of a league title and what it means for our club.
homerjay2005 wrote: » :eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek: f*ck right off, nothing and i mean nothing, compares to last season. i was at Wembley for 11 final, was in moscow so ive experienced both sides of the coin. ive also experienced the 6-1, ive been there for our last minute winners against them.dont you f8cking dare try to tell me which hurt more, cos you just dont have a f*cking clue. this place is being shown up today for what it is, a bunch of glory hunters who just dont get the importance of a league title and what it means for our club.
Jame Gumb wrote: » Wembley in 2011 hurt me more than the final day of last season. I went into the CL final full of hope, only to see the team that I love humiliated. I went into the Sunderland vs United / City vs QPR games not feeling full of hope at all, so the end result didn't hurt me as much.
bullvine wrote: » I am actually starting to think this place has become full of trolls, how anybody can think losing to Barca was worse than Agueros last minute winner. The last month has been hell, the clip comes on Sky Sports News the hole time and I feel sick with the sight of it. I can't actually watch sky at the moment because of it.
