OzCam wrote: » Anyone who had one would be delighted to show it off. Framed.
Lemming wrote: » The out patients have been given a day out I see. I have never - and I repeat - NEVER, been to a site in the UK (where pryo is the legal norm) that allowed the use of smoke pyro indoors. Funnily enough because of the strong intensity of fumes pumped out, the strong potential for player injury due to obstructed vision, and the very real possibility of aggrivating existing respitory conditions in some players. So what makes you think that it's a case of "man up", or do the rules of common sense not apply? Or are you just Matt Damon? Further, any site that has a cert wouldn't have a problem furnishing it now would they?
c-90 wrote: » as for the site having to display there permit on here thats still rediculous. no matter how you word it not one person on this forum has the authority to request to see it,.
c-90 wrote: » its clear the caliber of tampon, i mean player that im talking to is the kind that gets sick everytime he sees a woman.
c-90 wrote: » dont use petty insults on an internet forum. it just draggs the thread down and makes you look bad.
Faolchu wrote: » i would have thought it would be a requirement to display such a cert if you were licensed to use pyro.
thermo wrote: » what about a licence to store?
c-90 wrote: » *rhubarb rhubarb rhubarb* I'm alright cause I'm Jack
c-90 wrote: » 'its clear the caliber of tampon, i mean player that im talking to is the kind that gets sick everytime he sees a woman. ' 'ive personally used them in subterranean/indoor settings and been fine and so have the rest of the people i was with and that was a controlled military exercise. '
Firekitten wrote: » A, He must be sick a lot, as he's my other half. And don't call people tampons, unless you're willing to own up to being a Diaper. B, A controlled military exercise falls under different rules, regulations, and codes of practice to a GAME of airsoft. One is training for war, another is playing soldiers. If you don't understand the difference, I hereby take away your rifle, and issue you your highly ally specialforces/sas/delta assault padded stick. Use it wisely.
Faolchu wrote: » they shouldnt have to display it here or on any internet forum but i would assume they would need to display it on their actual site and anyone should have a right to request to see their authorisation to use such devices once they are in use in the airsoft site.
c-90 wrote: » oh yea because i forgot we sign out disposable lungs :rolleyes: of course theres a huge difference. but there should be no difference between my lungs and the next guys and if there is all he has to do is put his hand up and say "im not comfertable doing this" then he waits until the smoke is gone. not force people who are willing to expose them selfs to comply with his rules.
Firekitten wrote: » Actually you do. Its called a respirator... often used if you're going to smoke a building then go in. Plus, most airsoft sites, EVEN in the UK where pyro is far more common, do not permit smoke in buildings... Why? Airsoft allows Asthmatics and others with respiratory problems to take part. So its not complying with 'his' or 'your' rules. Its not discriminating against those with either health issues, or those that don't WANT health issues. Plus the only loud clacking sound is coming from a poster, not an aeg.
c-90 wrote: » its just like when you go to the cinema and they warn you about flashing imaging. or minimum heights on rides. thats discrimination too then.
Stonewolf wrote: » Getting back on topic, I think what we've figured out so far is that the OP should have called the local station and asked if the site had a pyro licence.
Puding wrote: » self editing
bullets wrote: » Go on Puding....you know you want to! self edit back to what your were going to post after a few drinks :P:P:P:P:P:P ~B (Just kidding)
Faolchu wrote: » actually its not, its far from it. its a safety measure. the ferris wheel is not discriminating agaimnst those that are vertically challanged, they are sayin that this ride has been designed for people above a certain height and if you are below that height it is unsafe for you to use it. same with teh cinema they are warning those with photosensitive epelepsy that they may suffer side effects. that is not discroimination thats plain commn sense and i'm pretty sure a requirement. as for teh maybe they do display it statement, you clearly said that no person has a right to request to view the license, i simply pointed out that IMO it should be clearly visible and if it was not visable then any person on that site has a right to inspect the license to ensure the site they are about to play on is fully compliant. I'm pretty sure there's a health and safety requirement within ireland that if there are any materials that could be combustable there must be a safety statement and possible an MSDS (think thats what its called) there for inspection.
Stonewolf wrote: » The fact is that pyros are illegal. Full stop. If a site has gone to a lot of trouble to get certified then well done to them, let's see some proof, let's also see proof from every single marshal on duty that they are also personally certified because anything less would be reckless, and not forgetting proof that all the players using them are certified because it's the law. Let's see proof that they were imported legally and not sold to the players on site (that would also be illegal). Let's see some evidence of a safety brief/warning being given to non pyro using players regarding pyros being in use because that's prudent. The fact is it may be a stupid law, but for the good of the game we will all follow it because the last thing we want is a perception of our beloved hobby as people who ignore the law where it suits them. Would I play on a site that had non legal pyros? No, because who knows what other laws (like the 1J one) they might be ignoring. I've never come across pyros being used on a site and hope I never will because my response will be to phone the Guards, no ifs, no buts, no maybes. WRONG. If you see a crime being committed it is your duty to report it immediately.
c-90 wrote: » as for the nobody HERE having the right to ask to see the they dont, if your on the site you may have but im talking about this forum. to be technical even if u DID go there and ask to see it, its more than likely not your right to ask to see it, but they would of course be moraly obligated to show it to you.
c-90 wrote: » ive personally used them in subterranean/indoor settings and been fine and so have the rest of the people i was with and that was a controlled military exercise. there is the obvious discomfort of being imersed in smoke but thats why you have screening before and after a exercise/game
c-90 wrote: » of course theres a huge difference. but there should be no difference between my lungs and the next guys and if there is all he has to do is put his hand up and say "im not comfertable doing this" then he waits until the smoke is gone. not force people who are willing to expose them selfs to comply with his rules.
Lemming wrote: » Speaking from personal experience, the heat generated in putting out smoke from a grenade is intense. I know this because I have had the misfortune to have smoke pyro ignite whilst in a pouch on my belt, resulting in so much heat being generated that a pistol - in self same pouch - was destroyed, with enough heat transferring through the pistol and the thick material of the pouch against my hip and burning a perfect imprint of the pistol onto my trousers.
