mike65 wrote: » I imagine the club will be looking at sides that fall out of the Champions League or Europa League for the fill in for Lucas, which team with a decent water carrier that might need the money is likely to go out?
Dont be at yourself wrote: » http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sven_Bender
Blatter wrote: » I agree they are different situations, although still despicable from Carra to intentionally set out to injure his own team mate. I was merely comparing it to the Keane situation in so far as they both admitted to going out to 'do' players in their autobiographies.
Morzadec wrote: » Someone mentioned earlier, but Diarra on loan seems the ideal option. He's a really top player, very good on the ball and great off it. He's played a bit this season but isn't first choice...Not sure if they'd let him go but I'd love it it we could get him.
slingerz wrote: » I think a loan would be a good option but most likely will have to buy. Fellani from across the park would be an amazing signing in that position or even Rodwell given Everton's financial woes. Tiote would be super but Newcastle will get fed up with being a feeder club soon! Lee Cattermole is another that will be linked but I'm not sure as to what he'd add.
Mr Alan wrote: » All that's a bit ****ing rich from Carra, fairly sure he was critical of the signing of Lucas in his book saying we had English players in the youths/reserves who could do just as good a job as Lucas.
Podge2k7 wrote: » The only one of our defenders id trust in DM is Agger. He can defend plus is good with the ball at his feet.
Kess73 wrote: » Yeah he did pass comments like that on Lucas in his book. Was pretty dismissive of Lucas' ability and potential.
The Chessplayer wrote: » Lucas is a pivotal player but the whinging on here about losing him is a bit OTT. The sort of comments I'd expect from teenage girls. Get over it.
SlickRic wrote: » Spearing can do a job, but he's no Lucas. people are rightly worried as to how we'll cope, especially as we have no Gerrard right now, and an untried combination of Speaing/Adam, Adam/Henderson or Spearing/Henderson/Adam to look forward to. Adam and Lucas had only just found their feet as a combo.
Mr Alan wrote: » :rolleyes: This is the point I was making about some people being absolutely ridiculous about this. There is absolutely nothing to indicate that he set out to seriously injure his own team mate (which would be despicable), he only set out to hurt him with a hard tackle. There's not a defender or midfielder in the world who hasn't done the same. It's a total non issue. For example, I remember Danny Agger clattering Torres out of it in his first game against us after his move. Left Torres writhing around in pain on the deck after it. Did anyone think, "wow, that was despicable". No. It's part of the game that's great & it should always be that way. It's when incidents like Keane's cross the line to such an extreme that the outrage should begin.
Originally posted by Jamie Carragher When my leg was broken in an horrific tackle by Lucas Neill in September 2003, my mates were ready to hunt him down if I gave the go-ahead. A few weeks later I received a phone call. "You won't believe this, Jay. We're in the Trafford Centre and Lucas Neill is walking straight towards us. What do you reckon?" Did I really want Neill to take a crack? "There's only one problem," added the voice. "Little Davey Thommo is with him." That was that. I could hardly let one of my best mates, David Thompson, now a Blackburn player, become a witness to an assault. Besides he'd have recognised the attackers. The impromptu mission was aborted and I sent a text to Thommo telling him Neill should give him a hug of thanks. As word got back to Blackburn about the near miss, or should that be hit, their coach Terry Darracott, a Scouser, appealed to one of my friends to call the boys off. I agreed.
Blatter wrote: » He left his own teammate Song with a knock, was happy about it and admits he intentionally set out to do so. It's a disgusting thing to do, made worst by the fact he felt he needed to boast about it. No matter how you dress it up as favorably as you can for Carra and ridiculously compare it to a real match situation when the player's motive is to go for the ball.
Cataleya Calm Sorcerer wrote: » So you have never gone out and got stuck into a team mate in training or even a friend in a game of astro turf? I've done it many times and I have seen it happen many times with others too.
missingtime wrote: » Who is the person here who likes Huddlestone? Spurs probably wouldnt sell him to us though.
The Chessplayer wrote: » You know me Ric, just trying to look on the brightside. Speaking of SG...when is he actually back? Don't forget Jonjo Shelvey. He's got a bit of an engine on him, wouldn't be surprised to see him wrestling with Henderson for game time.
Blatter wrote: » Never went in hard against any of my mates on the football field with the intention 'to teach them a lesson' and motivated by the vindictiveness that Carra describes. And you can't tackle on astro turf:p
Cataleya Calm Sorcerer wrote: » Astro is a bad example maybe but when I played soccer for a club there was always one or two "hard men" playing that would be dishing out plenty of verbal abuse etc, I can remember blatantly kicking them on plenty of occasions with no other intention but to hurt them, even fighting with them properly. Never stopped is playing together in matches though.
djPSB wrote: » But you didn't release a book about it
rarnes1 wrote: » In fairness Boggles,there's no comparisment between the Roy Keane tackle and the Carragher incident Anyone who has played football or any contact sport for that matter will know that.
Kess73 wrote: » Originally he was down to return after three games, which would have seen him return by the Swansea game. Now he has no estimated return date listed for him, so best to regard any time he spends in the team this season as a bonus methinks.
Blatter wrote: » 1. There is a comparison between the Carragher incident and the Keane incident. They both admit to setting out to injure players in their autobiographies and both express delight at achieving there aim. The comparison is not a direct comparison as both tackles were different, but it's comparable to a large degree nonetheless.
Sir Gallagher wrote: » What's your point exactly?
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