mixednuts wrote: » Maxi Rodriguez goals tally is no fluke .his positional play is so underrated and he nearly always takes a CB out of a game with his movement . He may not be the prettiest player to watch but he really is as unsung hero when he plays . Putting individual performances aside the best thing about the past three games has been the the way we played as a unit . Offensively we are a right handful , and in defence I am no longer getting a mini cardiac when the ball enters the box . If we are starting to see the foundations of the Kenny&Clarke era then the future looks very bright . Some nice intelligent player purchases in the next couple of windows , and blood a few of the exceptional potential we have in reserve and i feel we will be very strong force in the medium term . Long may it last .
Mr Alan wrote: » £15m offer for Torres in Jan please Mr Henry. Striking options of Suarez,Carroll,Torres,Bellamy & Kuyt would be sexual.
Turtyturd wrote: » He'll also be playing for Chelsea come Februaray
How Liverpool’s Lucas Leiva Became The World’s Best Defensive Midfielder An ever present for Brazil and Liverpool, the once-maligned destroyer has statistically outperformed his European peers for the last 18 months. Reds will be hoping today's scan on his left knee is positive... Three years ago, Liverpool had the best midfield in the world. The Kop even sang a song about it. ‘We’ve got Xabi Alonso… Momo Sissoko… Gerrard and Mas-cher-aaaaa-noooooo!” Meanwhile on Merseyside, quietly trying to make his way in a new country with a starkly alien culture and very little initial grasp of the English language, was a young reserve player with flowing blond locks and a vivacious enthusiasm for the game. He’d arrived for big money, billed as a prodigious creative midfielder from football’s exotic homeland of flair and fancy. Still a teenager, he had just one senior season under his belt, but in that one campaign he’d led Gremio to the Copa Libertadores final while still a teenager, and in the process became the youngest ever recipient of the Brazilian league’s award for player of the year. Younger than Tevez had been. Younger than Kaka, than Ronaldo, than Zico even. Goldielocks had undeniable pedigree. But reputation counts for nothing when you’re trying to break into Rafa Benitez’s glittering, Champions League-winning engine room. He’d wait for an injury or a suspension, and then stumble into a cauldron of pressure and impatience. In replacing Xabi Alonso, the world’s foremost holding midfielder, or Steven Gerrard, the league’s ultimate deep-lying attacking force, this timid novice was expected to swim a medley in the deep end against the currant of football’s most ferocious and unforgiving tide. Nobody ever said it was going to be easy. And so it proved. Lucas Pezzini Leiva is an educated middle class lad from the small city of Dourados, close to the border of Paraguay in Brazil’s south west. He was prepped for a career in business or economics before his outstanding ability on the football pitch took over. But during his first couple of years in England, he might’ve considered falling back on his academic qualities. As far as they were concerned, he was overhyped, overpaid and lacking the cajones to make an impact in the big league. His fleeting appearances offered little evidence of the sparkling report Benitez had attributed to him. He was both sloppy and inhibited. And what’s more, he wasn’t in any way creative. He didn’t even approach doors, let alone prise them open. Liverpool fans were expecting the new Kaka. But at his best, Lucas was a mild improvement on Igor Biscan. At his worst, he was a Sunday league chaser with the composure of a schizophrenic chicken. It all came to a head during the 2008/09 season. Leiva had been struggling to find his feet in the big league, and giving away a last minute penalty at Wigan, and then getting sent off in the derby against Everton – all in the space of seven days – only compounded his misery. Being booed by the Anfield faithful during a disappointing draw with Fulham could’ve been the last straw, but his manager protected his fledgling. “Some day, people will realise how good Lucas is,” forecasted Rafa Benitez. Fast forward three years and that day Benitez predicted has now been and gone… While Liverpool stuttered – initially in the latter days of Benitez’s reign, and then so markedly under Roy Hodgson – Lucas quietly, rapidly grew. His shyness evaporated as his shoulders became broader. His reluctance to put a foot wrong was superseded by his drive to make a difference, to meet the ball, to commit defenders, to probe with his passes, to rally the troops around him. That Lucas has become one of the pearls in Benitez’s Anfield legacy is testament to the Spaniard’s foresight and perseverance. Not only are Liverpool fans now in full agreement as to the multifacted qualities Lucas provides, the 24-year-old’s stock has risen dramatically in wider circles, too. He is a regular in the full Brazil national team and could well captain the Selecao on home soil at the next World Cup. Elsewhere, Kenny Dalglish has fended off approaches for Lucas from powerhouses in Spain and Italy in recent months. It’s little wonder there’s been interest. This season, the rebranded Lucas has been Liverpool’s best player. In the absence of Gerrard, and latterly of Carragher too, the dynamic Brazilian has developed into a focal point, and something of a natural leader. His fine example – superhuman work rate, cutting edge decision making, strength and desire in combat – has been an infectious influence among the newer signings beside him, and will only benefit his absent captain upon his 2012 return.Leiva made more tackles and interceptions than anyone across Europe’s biggest four leagues last term. He’s already top of such stats this season. At Chelsea two weeks ago, he bossed from start to finish, gliding effortlessly around the Stamford Bridge turf, picking off Blues attacks and instinctively starting his own team’s counters in an instant. Last week at home to table-topping Man City, he played better still, stifling David Silva’s artistry and Yaya Toure’s power with his own single-handed combination of energy, craft and cunning. And last night, until his injury, he not only smashed Torres twice, he provided the rock-solid platform for Bellamy to wreak havoc.Meanwhile, he’s also punching well above his weight in pass completion stats, and the method and destination of his staple use of the ball has improved immeasurably. No longer does he take the easy option by popping the ball off sideways or backwards for the sake of it. No longer does he pass the buck. In a round about way, he is evolving into the creator he was originally billed to be. But in addition, he’s an enforcer and a water-carrier all rolled into one. Lucas Leiva not only looks at home swimming in football’s deep end these days, he’s leading a synchronised visual masterpiece in the middle of the Premier League’s choppy waters. And while Liverpool may no longer possess the greatest midfield in the world, they might just have one of the planet’s great midfielders of the next decade.
Ikky Poo2 wrote: » I'll tell you in three games' time.
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Jerry Seinfeld wrote: » Lucas has 183 appearances for Liverpool already :eek: 5 million looks a nice price now for that skinny 20 year old 20 Brazilian caps as well Pushing on though, 25 in the new year
Tusky wrote: » The more time that passes, many of Rafas signings look better. It's safe to say that Reina, Agger, Skrtel, Lucas, Arbeloa, Alonso, Mascherano and Torres can all be classes as great signings and all very good value too. £20m profit on Alonso, £30m on Torres. Also, Reina, Agger, Skrtel and Lucas have all easily doubled in value. I would have loved to have seen Rafa get the kind of backing the new owners seem willing to give.
PaulieC wrote: » I wouldn't say Skrtel has tbh we bought him for 6m and wouldn't value him over 8m atm Reina signed for 6.5m iirc so he's tripled in value and Agger cost 5.5m or so - I wouldn't ever like to see him leave the club but if he did it'd want to be for over £15m - he's twice the player Gary Cahill is
Cataleya Calm Sorcerer wrote: » The complaining about Carroll's performance is well out of order in my opinion. He won a lot of difficult ball that was played up to him and played some very nice passes while under a lot of pressure, the way we played last night that was his job. He was also in the box plenty but was too isolated or poor ball was played into him, I really think some people want him to fail and will tear apart his performance and look for anything they can to use against him.
VW 1 wrote: » And tbh, Lucas for 5m, he is easily worth 15-18 imo on last season and current seasons form so another tripling in value.
VW 1 wrote: » On the subject of Lucas as a holding midfielder and being one of the best in Europe in the position on his current form, would you rate him as highly as Alonso when he was there in his prime? Or has he still a bit of developing to do to get to that level?
Blatter wrote: » Lucas will never me an Alonso, he doesn't have the passing ability and intelligence to get mentioned in the same breath. I'd liken Lucas more to Mascherano, but still a little bit off that level. On the subject of the best DM in Europe, it has to be Busquets imo.
VW 1 wrote: » But Lucas' passing and distribution is getting a lot more attacking and incisive (The reason why I hinted at development- with another 18months under his belt like the last 18, he could hit those heights), he doesnt have the range of Hollywood passing that Alonso has but he rarely concedes possession and is extremly effective at breaking up play. I wouldnt imagine he is anyway far off Mascherano's level imo, but definitely agree about Busquets, much and all as I cant stand him.
Chucky the tree wrote: » He's far better then Masch offensively. He can make some excellent passes like similar to Alonso but he doesn't have the attacking intelligence Alonso had, not sure he will ever reach that level but he definitly should improve. Defensively he's much better then Alonso so it's hard to compare them really. I think his importance to us is similar to Alonso though.
Tusky wrote: » I would have loved to have seen Rafa get the kind of backing the new owners seem willing to give.
opr wrote: » I would love to see Rafa in the Comolli role as director of football but I can't see that happening. Opr
MaceFace wrote: » I do wonder if he has flourished in the absence of Gerrard without having the pressure of such a great player beside him, he has had to take the responsibility.
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