4leto wrote: » I go with that, and I concede an earlier post I made, there are gay groups that help someone come to terms with their own sexuality, there are also groups that help parents come to terms with their children's sexuality. So I acknowledge it is a genuine problem for some.It can be devastating to BOTH parties, but it is getting easier. I hope someday it wont matter at all, we are getting there.
Sonics2k wrote: » I remember when a close friend of mine came out to his father during our late teens, I was there for it and couldn't help laugh at the conversation. Son: Dad, I have something to tell you. Dad: What's up? Son: I'm gay. *slight pause* Dad: No **** ya fairy, now take out the trash like I told you last night. Son: What? Is that all? Dad: Just never fall in love with a ging and I don't care. Was a fairly epic moment.
willmunny1990 wrote: » Personally, and I'm slightly ashamed to say this, but I'd be very disappointed. I have no problem with gay people, I know a few and get on with them just fine. But, I would be devastated if I found out my child was gay. It would be an unmitigated disaster in my view. Why? First of all for selfish reasons. I would love to be a grandfather one day and would find it hard to accept of being deprived that aspiration. Secondly, I think gay people are unfortunately still heavily discriminated against in life. Especially when they are younger and in School. And it is not my wish to have my son go through hardships like this. So, how would you feel if your child was gay?
Micky Dolenz wrote: » Do you live in the States?
JaxxYChicK wrote: » I really don't understand why the term "devastated" is being thrown about so readily here. Surely being devastated that your child is gay is a complete over-exaggeration in this day and age? Being devastated that you might not get to have grandchildren? IMO, that's a completely selfish reaction. There are much more relevant, important issues to be devastated over IMO.
Domo230 wrote: » It depends........ If I've got loads of kids then it's grand but if I only have the one kid then it would be a bit of a shocker. I would'nt treat him any differently but I would be trying to have another child so I can have grandkids and not be genetically wiped out.
Peep O'Day wrote: » Fair play to you for being honest about how you feel, that takes a bit of courage especially considering the culture of "I dare not speak out on how I really feel for fear of being crucified by the masses who know better".
pragmatic1 wrote: » "Courage", "crucified". Dude its an online forum where the worst thing that could happen is someone will type something nasty.
Peep O'Day wrote: » Yeah okay fair enough, that was hyperbolic but the point stands that not many people will express how they truly feel on certain matters as it's not the "correct" stance on the issue
hondasam wrote: » It's easy to sit at home and type all the right words to look good but Real life is a bit different. It's like most things in life until you have some experience of it you cannot understand it. I find what people say and what they do can be hypocritical.
Sonics2k wrote: » Hi, I'm an actual parent to two children.Both of my parent's are gay (mother and father). I am straight, not bi, not curious, completely straight (for those morons who think genetics affects it). I honestly could not give a flying fúck if one, or both, of my children were gay. I have zero respect for parents who are bothered by the fact their child is gay, because it is wrong, stupid and completely selfish. A person's sexuality has absolutely zero bearing on the person they are, the things they do and the way they think. And the sooner society fúcking understands this, the better we will be as a species.
Dave147 wrote: » Great post, I'll be honest and say I'd rather my kids (if I have any) were straight. However, if any of them did turn out to be gay I would respect that and love them just as much, some of my best friends are gay, and the reason they're my best friends is that they're some of the nicest people you'll meet. How many scumbags or criminals do you hear of or know that are gay, not very many, they just seem to almost always be nice people! Cork has one of the best gay scenes in the country and it's great to see less division down here, albeit most of them do go to 'gay bars' but that's more personal preference than anything else. Obviously the fiasco in The Old Oak recently didn't do us any favours but that was an isolated incident and doesn't represent Cork as a whole. Anyway to sum it up, if my kids were gay I would support them through it and make sure they can come to me no matter what.
Logical Fallacy wrote: » *sigh* And the "everyone agree with me or **** off" train just keeps on rolling. I love AH, it's basically an opinion by popular consensus...anyone else is WRONG.
Yeah okay fair enough, that was hyperbolic but the point stands that not many people will express how they truly feel on certain matters as it's not the "correct" stance on the issue
Matthew23 wrote: » another question to people who think this is wrong is wouild you let a gay babysitter take care of your kids?
EarlERizer wrote: » Mitchell or Byrne ???
hondasam wrote: » It's easy to sit at home and type all the right words to look good but Real life is a bit different.
hondasam wrote: » I don't get your post, some of your best friends are gay but You don't want your kids to be gay, it's ok for everyone else's but not your family, this is been a hypocrite.
Dave147 wrote: » How many scumbags or criminals do you hear of or know that are gay, not very many, they just seem to almost always be nice people!
strobe wrote: » A bit off topic but Irish criminal PJ 'Psycho' Judge was gay and he used to get his kicks by smashing peoples teeth out with a claw hammer while they were held down. So was Ronnie Kray and he wasn't all that squeamish about breaking the odd law or stabbing someone through the face. Jeffrey Dahmer, Gwendolyn Gail Graham and Catherine Wood, Fritz Haarman, Aileen Wuornos.... An attitude of 'gay people are less likely to be criminals and more likely to be nice people' is just as ridiculous as negatively stereotyping homosexuals.
pragmatic1 wrote: » Yeah you can add a fair few loyalist paramilitaries to that list too.
During the 1690s rumours grew of William's alleged homosexual inclinations and led to the publication of many satirical pamphlets by his Jacobite detractors.[114] He did have several close, male associates, including two Dutch courtiers to whom he granted English titles: Hans Willem Bentinck became Earl of Portland, and Arnold Joost van Keppel was created Earl of Albemarle. These relationships with male friends, and his apparent lack of more than one female mistress, led William's enemies to suggest that he might prefer homosexual relationships. William's modern biographers, however, still disagree on the veracity of these allegations, with many contending that they were just figments of his enemies' imaginations,[115] and others suggesting there may have been some truth to the rumours.[116]
Plautus wrote: » his apparent lack of more than one female mistress, led William's enemies to suggest that he might prefer homosexual relationships
