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Templars Hall ..Getting out of Hand..

ROCKMAN

Just listen to WLR this morning and a local councillor going on about the late night parties and street drink etc by "students " in and around Templars Hall Seems like things are getting out of hand there at the moment ,
Feel sorry for the residents ,
The knock on effect of €2 night ....

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abouttobebanned

If I lived out there I'd be a busy boy with a baseball bat.

And listen to the interview with the student.

"I had no intences of going out..".

Intences? Back to school with ya.

Aquos76

Liz Reddy just posted this on her twitter account

RT @LilyReddy: Residents in Templars Hall Estate in #Waterford endure another night of anti-social behaviour. Hear a 20 minute report at 1 on #wlrfm news

seanybiker

ziedth wrote: »

At least our opinions are noteworthy

I concur.

Me and yerself where quoted a few months back so obviously our opinions are more noteworthy than the rest of the peasants on here. Bahaha

MitchKoobski

Getting a LOT of publicity now, maybe something will actually be done.

Potential-Monke

How did last night go?

Nypd

gscully wrote: »

Nypd wrote: »

The problems in Templars has made the papers this week, front and page 6 of the news and star

Everything that stirs up a reaction on Waterford boards makes it into the N&S. Didn't you know we're their 'according to sources'?

Waterford today have taken the story to front page aswell,
They say 5 arrests, at least that's progress, for the residents there.

ziedth

At least our opinions are noteworthy

gscully

Nypd wrote: »

The problems in Templars has made the papers this week, front and page 6 of the news and star

Everything that stirs up a reaction on Waterford boards makes it into the N&S. Didn't you know we're their 'according to sources'?

kkdela6

i think its unfair to say 'fckuin students' as if they are the bane of society, at least the guys will eventually (or should i say hopefully) end up contributing to society, unlike a lot of school leavers who just hang about on the dole and causing more wreck.

however the templars situation is very nerve wrecking, and while i fully understand the student life and all those crazy parties (im studying in dublin myself) it is really offensive to suggest that people who moved to templars 'should have known what they are getting themselevs into'. nobody should have to 'expect' to be kept up all night. i think if residents and students maybe got to know each other (dream on i hear you say) some sort of balance could be achieved.

robtri

ex_infantry man wrote: »

if i lived there i,d defo be cracking and would be pushed to setting up a vigilante group and end up burning the little ****ers outta it, i start work every morning at half four and on way in to work was goin up ballytruckle and only copped it at last min some stupid little **** stood like a starfish in the middle of the road only for i swerved at last min the stupid little biatch would have been on the bonnet of my car all i say is ****in students

great post.. only one problem...

you swerved....

deisedave

ex_infantry man wrote: »

the only way to sort little disrepectful little ****es out is to show em who is boss, they stomp around in the early hours of the morning drunk!! making huge amounts of noise!! damaging people,s property!! being a total nuisance to society!! some of which i,ve witnessed on my way to work some thursday mornings, which in turn disrupts people,s lives due to lack of sleep, which in turn leads to bad performance at work or in the case of kids at school, if the gardai aint bothered in doing anything about it then yeah a few grown men should get together to sort em!! it happened here in tramore few years ago in the estate i grew up in and it was,nt long before the trouble was nipped in the arse!!!! also i,m no idiot thanks very much!!!

Agree with this post 100 percent, that is the only way its ever going to be sorted out.

dark_shadow

iphonehead wrote: »

If I was one of the unfortunate few residents out there I think I'd wait until about a week before the exams start and then organise a 3 week p*ss up and street party for the residents and give those scumbags a taste of their own medicine right when they need peace and quiet for their studying

I wouldn't simple because they would probably love it so much they'd join in!!! :cool:

ex_infantry man

Max Powers wrote: »

There is a couple of idiots on here saying vigilante groups and such nonsense.

the only way to sort little disrepectful little ****es out is to show em who is boss, they stomp around in the early hours of the morning drunk!! making huge amounts of noise!! damaging people,s property!! being a total nuisance to society!! some of which i,ve witnessed on my way to work some thursday mornings, which in turn disrupts people,s lives due to lack of sleep, which in turn leads to bad performance at work or in the case of kids at school, if the gardai aint bothered in doing anything about it then yeah a few grown men should get together to sort em!! it happened here in tramore few years ago in the estate i grew up in and it was,nt long before the trouble was nipped in the arse!!!! also i,m no idiot thanks very much!!!

Nypd

The problems in Templars has made the papers this week, front and page 6 of the news and star

gscully

iphonehead wrote: »

If I was one of the unfortunate few residents out there I think I'd wait until about a week before the exams start and then organise a 3 week p*ss up and street party for the residents and give those scumbags a taste of their own medicine right when they need peace and quiet for their studying

I wouldn't. The fcukers would have to repeat.

Deisekickboxing

saw that vigalante group on fb yesterday..........

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=244500688929543&set=a.232791386767140.56729.232613156784963&type=1&theater

Potential-Monke

Max Powers wrote: »

There is a couple of idiots on here saying vigilante groups and such nonsense. The real people that should be blamed is the Gardai, not the landlords. The Gards are the ones meant to be stomping this stuff out, yet they are more intersted in cruising around in the cars handing out tickets to those going 10km over the limit. Its the same reason you see drunks drinkin around by the friary area (the heart of our tourist area), the gards drive by and look.

I have experience of noisy neighbours also, not students, for 3 months, every weekend was a massive party, I approached them and asked them to keep it down, i spoke to neighbours about it, i spoke to the gards, they did f-all about it.

You really didn't read the whole thread did you? The Gardai are limited by what they can do, and they have no powers when it comes to noise complaints, house parties, or drinking on private property.

Maybe the Gardai stopping people for speeding are the traffic corp, whose sole purpose is traffic related matters?

And these drunks you see driving around, do you ever ring the Gardai to report them? How do you know they're drunk? I'll guarantee no Garda will turn a blind eye to someone they suspect is drink driving.

iphonehead

If I was one of the unfortunate few residents out there I think I'd wait until about a week before the exams start and then organise a 3 week p*ss up and street party for the residents and give those scumbags a taste of their own medicine right when they need peace and quiet for their studying

chelloveks

longshanks wrote: »

Give me whiskey, a bag of anger and a hurley soaked in salty water. Problem solved.

Another fckn pearl of wisdom. I have to have a drink with you longshanks...we are kindred volk! Your posts inspire me to greatness. If you can't join em...beat em!

angry_fox

Max Powers wrote: »

There is a couple of idiots on here saying vigilante groups and such nonsense. The real people that should be blamed is the Gardai, not the landlords. The Gards are the ones meant to be stomping this stuff out, yet they are more intersted in cruising around in the cars handing out tickets to those going 10km over the limit. Its the same reason you see drunks drinkin around by the friary area (the heart of our tourist area), the gards drive by and look.

I have experience of noisy neighbours also, not students, for 3 months, every weekend was a massive party, I approached them and asked them to keep it down, i spoke to neighbours about it, i spoke to the gards, they did f-all about it.

The real people who should be blamed are the small percentage young adults/students who with their behaviour are giving the rest of the student population in Waterford a bad name. There not all p*ss heads you know.

Think the army will have to be brought in for RAG week :rolleyes:

Adyx

Max Powers wrote: »

There is a couple of idiots on here saying vigilante groups and such nonsense. The real people that should be blamed is the Gardai, not the landlords. The Gards are the ones meant to be stomping this stuff out, yet they are more intersted in cruising around in the cars handing out tickets to those going 10km over the limit. Its the same reason you see drunks drinkin around by the friary area (the heart of our tourist area), the gards drive by and look.

I have experience of noisy neighbours also, not students, for 3 months, every weekend was a massive party, I approached them and asked them to keep it down, i spoke to neighbours about it, i spoke to the gards, they did f-all about it.

It's already been pointed out on this thread that excessive noise is a civil matter and the Gardaí can't do anything about it.

Max Powers

There is a couple of idiots on here saying vigilante groups and such nonsense. The real people that should be blamed is the Gardai, not the landlords. The Gards are the ones meant to be stomping this stuff out, yet they are more intersted in cruising around in the cars handing out tickets to those going 10km over the limit. Its the same reason you see drunks drinkin around by the friary area (the heart of our tourist area), the gards drive by and look.

I have experience of noisy neighbours also, not students, for 3 months, every weekend was a massive party, I approached them and asked them to keep it down, i spoke to neighbours about it, i spoke to the gards, they did f-all about it.

Sully

I know of a chap who was up before the disciplinary board for his drunken behavior outside of college grounds. Urinating in public IIRC, and he got a slap across the wrist from the college. That's what he told me anyway during the time it was happening, so can only go by what I was told.

dashboard_hula

^^What he said.

I'm a student at WIT ("mature" so I am) and as another poster said, I cannot afford to scratch myself, never mind get buckled every Wednesday/Thursday night. I do know however that when I was a teenager, a very clever person rang my mother to have my loud, pissed, lairy self picked up from a house party and there was absolute murder at home. My parents went mental at me not that I was drinking or at a party, but that I lost the run of myself and it came to the notice of the neighbours.
I genuinely think that a little bit of mortification might do the job where the Guards are unable to, or the SU haven't the power to.

Or I'm just terrified of my Mam and it's all wishful thinking on my part.

longshanks

If you can get the landlords number try get him to supply you with the numbers of the parents of the students. They're not going to appreciate 3am phone calls telling them their kids are running wild, and they probably pay the rent.

Potential-Monke

I think constant "reminding" of the landlord would work well. He'll start to get annoyed by you ringing him at (stupid)AM letting him know that they're at it again.

I've an email sent to Threshold to see what rights a house owner has in relation to getting information of the landlord of the house next door. Whatever i get back i''ll post here.

ROCKMAN

cataclysm wrote: »

This made me laugh

Its heard very often, you see worse things on a Saturday night then you do on a student night.

Its not like they stand on the streets drinking for the laugh.
Their walking home from the nightclubs.

I've been to templars hall after a night out everyone is JUST going home. They might be walking and drinking but its not like their having a session out on the street.

People just like to blame students and WIT for everything because they can.
Cant wait when it gets University then we'll see the forums fly

OK alot maybe only making their way home and thats fine with me , As long they can/are doing it without knocking over bins ,trying to kicking in doors or damaging cars ....

On the targetting landlords etc would seem to be the best way to try tackle the situation IMO ,

Would like to see the landlords or letting agents try employ a fine system ,ie. one of the smaller student blocks in town was charging the cost of any security house calls to the tenants , Would make the party houses think twice if you start hitting them in the pockets ...At the very least the extra cash layouts might make mammy or daddy ask questions

ziedth

This is exactly it. I was at a house party many years ago and the cops turned up but the students who were renting the house pretty much just waved them off and said they'd keep it down but started it up again once they left. Anyway, half 3 in the morning the rather tough lookig landlord banged on the door and said if everyone wasn't kicked out now that they'd be out on their ear. That's the only way to deal with it.

old gregg

I believe calerbass had it right a few pages back. Make it a problem for the landlord. If tennants are disturbing your sleep/peace then you should start to disturb the sleep/peace of the landlord involved. Get them to deal with their tennants and if they don't then the courts will likely judge in your favour.

No landlord likes to be woken repeatedly at 2, 3, 4, 5 in the morning with complaints about their tennants. A landlord wants easy money and my experience is that a landlord will evict pretty smartly if their own sleep is being disturbed.

gscully

Cabaal wrote: »

Regardless of the area and what people might label the area are the people are none the less entitled to a decent night sleep, thats not a very unreasonable request in fairness.

Absolutely, and I wasn't suggesting they should settle for any less. I was just making an observation, not a criticism.

THall04 wrote: »

To suggest that the residents of Templars Hall should have known what they were letting themselves in for and should just shut up and get on with things , is very insulting.

Can you point out the part of my post that suggests they should shut up and get on with things? If you're insulted it's because you're making things up and I can't apologise for that. In fact, I said that I was sympathetic.

I remember very well the time that these houses were on sale for so little. I also remember thinking I wouldn't touch them for the reasons I've already outlined. These houses were cheap because of their locality and I would wager that the majority of buyers knew the reasons why they were cheap, but either decided to take a chance based on the price, or because they couldn't afford to go elsewhere. My observation is purely that the buyers probably knew at the time that there was a good chance of disharmony at some stage. It doesn't mean they should have to put up with it though, and I wasn't suggesting they should.

Again, I'm not saying 'tough sh*t' to them. I am totally sympathetic as I've witnessed the antics of students in Lismore Park and where I live now with two young kids. It can be a bloody nightmare and I hope they get an end to it soon, but I wouldn't bet on it, sadly.