greenoverred wrote: » Well after coming back from a day out collecting the rent. Went for a skip of free pints in the local after and have just bet the wife up to bed. I log in here and my god this is amusing. Where do I start
greenoverred wrote: » Why do you keep harping on about this. I posted a link, have a look at it. How do I burn 320 euro petrol in a month. Ok Ill try and explain as simple as I can. Right you have this thing you call a car. Now the car has a thing called an engine. This engine requires petrol to run it. Im not sure of the technical issues with this(maybe one of the engineers can explain) Anyway this petrol costs money. So you call into a place called a petrol station and a nice man will fill the car with petrol for you. Sometimes he even lets you do it yourself. The problem with this nice man is he wants money for this petrol. €1.55 a litre at the moment. So you drive out of the petrol station and the more you drive the more petrol the car uses. My car does about 30mpg. I live 35miles from my place of work. That 70miles to and from work. Ok, you following me. Thats 350miles for 5 days. So for 350miles the car uses 11.3333 Gallons. 4.5 litres in a gallon so we multiply 1.55 by 4.5. This is €6.975 for a gallon of petrol So the car needs 11.3333 of these a week. That gives €79.04. Oh damn. your right. Im 96 cent short. Depreciation is a real cost of owning a car. Simple as that. Im not even going to try and explain that to you. It doesnt come out of my paypacket but it is still a cost more me and every car owner in the country. As for the other made up stuff. Please explain So you see sir your call of baloney is wrong and Im not driving a ferrari. I never explained how a single person can pay 3000 on 'medical aid' because I never said a single person spends 3000 on medical aid. Can you stop making stuff up and letting on I said it. If you must know I spend 3300 on medical aid, but Im not single. I just said 3000 to round off. I think the cost of medical aid has already been posted. Have a look at that. What I find amusing about your constant picking at my post is that I only posted it to give an example of different expenses someone on €50,000 may have compared to say someone who has never worked. I gave examples as a Garda because I know what they are but they relate to most working people, public or private sector. The ones you keep coming back to me with are everyday expenses regardless of salary. Again I never said it effects my take home pay. But in fairness to you, you seem to have a bit more of an idea what depreciation is then gurramok Yes plucked from the air my gurramok. But thanks for posting the rates. Lets hope he reads them. Ah well. I did try
gurramok wrote: » That is a lie, the pubs are closed!! Nowhere near 7k sir, you are still plucking that figure from thin air even if your fuel costs are accurate. You claimed you did not have a wife. Big difference to the 'struggler' on a single wage paying 3k in Medical Aid.
greenoverred wrote: » Petrol 80pw Tax/insurance 1000pa Maintenance 600pa Depreciation 1200pa Medical aid 62.38pw. Tax deducted at source By the way the 9000 figure for mortgage is quite low. Don't you think this could be increased a bit
k_mac wrote: » Car running costs are about 5k and medical deductions (including critical illness, injury cover and life cover) are 2.5k per year.
gurramok wrote: » That's assuming the petrol costs are accurate. The poster quoted a figure of 3k for 'Medical Aid' yet said it was for a single person and yet posted later that he was married!! Hilarious stuff, if only he came clean initially..
greenoverred wrote: » Why do you keep harping on about this. I posted a link, have a look at it. How do I burn 320 euro petrol in a month. Ok Ill try and explain as simple as I can. Right you have this thing you call a car. Now the car has a thing called an engine. This engine requires petrol to run it. Im not sure of the technical issues with this(maybe one of the engineers can explain) Anyway this petrol costs money. So you call into a place called a petrol station and a nice man will fill the car with petrol for you. Sometimes he even lets you do it yourself. The problem with this nice man is he wants money for this petrol. €1.55 a litre at the moment. So you drive out of the petrol station and the more you drive the more petrol the car uses. My car does about 30mpg. I live 35miles from my place of work. That 70miles to and from work. Ok, you following me. Thats 350miles for 5 days. So for 350miles the car uses 11.3333 Gallons. 4.5 litres in a gallon so we multiply 1.55 by 4.5. This is €6.975 for a gallon of petrol So the car needs 11.3333 of these a week. That gives €79.04. Oh damn. your right. Im 96 cent short.
CDfm wrote: » What are the wage levels in other countries ? Our public sector workers are amongst the highest paid in Europe. I think it is a bit unfair to single out the guards amongst all public sector workers.
u_c_thesecond wrote: » I have no sympathy, Let them struggle on the 21,000 a year before tax that my partner and I live on and then thay can complain!We were sensible and got a small morgage, but them with their rental propertys. If your struggling SELL ONE OF THEM! People losing their homes and their jobs and they blooming moaning, theres worse off people in the world!
latenia wrote: » The cops as landlords thing is far from an urban myth-I used to work in the Revenue section that dealt with gardaí and most of my time was spent processing their returns for rental income. Anecdotally, most people I know who have rented for any length of time over several properties will have had a garda as their landlord at some stage. Another interesting trend I noticed was the number of gardaí who 'inherited' property and other bequeaths from unrelated elderly people living in their area. I'm sure they'll say it was recognition of the care and attention they received from compassionate gardaí but a cynic might see opportunism and exploitation. Putting the bare gross salary or takehome pay figures doesn't give an accurate picture of the real value of a garda's remuneration. They can retire on half their salary after 30 years service and receive 1.5 years salary as a 'retirement present' from Joe Taxpayer. Put it this way: a bean-garda could retire at 48 and reasonably expect to live to her mid-eighties, all the time drawing down index-linked money for doing nothing. That something has to give here is not a matter of ideology-it's basic arithmetic.
gurramok wrote: » Different categories of struggling there. Its shameful how you lump someone on the dole as a struggler with a person on 50k as a struggler. The former has a crap standard of living while the latter still has a high standard of living out of choice.
K-9 wrote: » Well Welfare for a married couple together with all the benefits can be about 30k Net so not that different as the Guards here are talking about 40k net.
ulinbac wrote: » No sympathy on this bit mate. I drove just under 550miles last week and only cost €80. So €40 gets 275 miles and €50 for 350. I drive a 1.8L petrol car that drinks it. You must be driving at least a 2 litre (jeep maybe?) if not above and if your telling me that you pay €1.55 weekly your having a laugh that not 1 garage in your daily trip does petrol for cheaper. I drove from way down south through Dublin and back and nowhere did petrol for that price, though I was paying 151.9. Not taking a stab but if thats that expensive get a diesel. Your tax gives it away that you must drive something with some bit of speed €1000! You are either under 25, have claimed recently or a load of penalty points. Anyone I know under 25 and over 23 with anything under a 2L pays less than €1000 in insurance.
donkey balls wrote: » Or the airline industry were my mate was given a another country to be based at without compo.
greenoverred wrote: » I know your not having a go or anything. But just to clear things up. The nearest station to me is charging 154.9. Im not driving a 2l. Its a 1.4 petrol but has a bit of speed. I do a combination of city and country driving. I have no doubt I could do with a diesel because of the milage Im putting up but cant change at the moment. By the way the tax and insurance combined is €1000
angelfire9 wrote: » We are NOT Talking about 40k net No member of AGS at the rank of Garda earns a net wage of €40,000 unless he works 120 hours a week or something mad like that The average net is around €32k
jdooley28 wrote: » How can anyone take this seriously when you are using depreciation as an expense coming out of the salary? Like how does your car going down in value affect you? i wonder what car it is actually, 600 maintainance nd 1200 depreciation!
Offy wrote: » Thats slightly higher than my income as a student, its still to high for a copper. When I return to work next June I wouldnt get out of bed in the morning for €40k if Im to be honest but engineers pay isnt the topic of this thread, its cops pay and as you can see from all these replys €40k is to high. Sorry that you are annoyed by this but its simply true, coppers are not worth €40k per year!
greenoverred wrote: » Sorry, Your just not getting this are you. I never said it was for a single person. Its hilarious stuff alright that you don't understand this.
Ill take your other suggestion on board. Get a wife to help with the bills. Any ideas where id find one of these. Internet, Copper face jacks, etc
k_mac wrote: » I'm not sure if there is an element of sarcasm here or if you are just very conceited.
tayto lover wrote: » I'd say he is terribly jealous. Probably failed the entrance examination for the Garda.
Offy wrote: » Im simply pointing out that as an engineer with 10+ years experience I wouldn't lift my ass for €40k, that doesn't mean a copper with the same experience is worth the same as me, I don't believe they are worth as much to society as an engineer is, the link I provided earlier validates this.
k_mac wrote: » So, very conceited then.
gurramok wrote: » Why are you comparing a welfare couple to a singleton Garda??
Dean09 wrote: » If I was taking home anywhere near that I wouldn't be complaining.
gurramok wrote: » Yes you did http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=71814490&postcount=263 You deliberately mislead us on your financial position and marital position when quoting your expenses. You threw in the 3k 'Medical Aid' when its for a family instead of a single person while detailing a single persons income and expenses and you have been found out. Next time quote your entire household income to have a shred of credibility. Game, set and match.
angelfire9 wrote: » Airline Industry Median Salary by Company Size 50-199 €50,750 200-599 €85,000 600-1999 €50,000 2000-4999 €58,250 5000-19999 €44,749 Let us not forget that A) Aer Lingus staff went on strike this year over a change to their working times an option that Gardai do not have ALL employment legislation that protects private sector & semi state employees are NOT APPLICABLE to Gardai and the Army I.E.>Organisation of Working Times Act - DOESN'T APPLY Minimum Notice & Terms of Employment Act - DOESN'T APPLYHealth, Safety & Welfare at Work Act - DOESN'T APPLY Terms of employment (Information) Act - DOESN'T APPLY
donkey balls wrote: » Are you for f**king real yet your so called professional traffic corp are to uphold the law regarding the above and fine people for not obeying the law,Then again I probely know more about the H&S act 2005 WTD etc and transport laws thanmost of the corp fact.