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Census 2011

Kunle

Is it just me that thinks this is a total waste of money? Why do we have a census so often in this country? we had one in 2002,2006 and now again in 2011, most other countries only have a census every 10 years. Isnt the census a very outdated method ? There is talk of it being abolished in the Uk.

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aDeener

Kunle wrote: »

Is it just me that thinks this is a total waste of money? Why do we have a census so often in this country? we had one in 2002,2006 and now again in 2011, most other countries only have a census every 10 years. Isnt the census a very outdated method ? There is talk of it being abolished in the Uk.

this proves that there is nothing people won't complain about.

do you and mike need the importance of a census spelled out to you? :rolleyes:

jakdelad

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The exception (the first of its kind as far as I know) this year was when the CSO allowed two ESRI researchers to access anonymised information regarding cohabiting same-sex couples.[/QUOTE]

oh????????
so much for privacy and security
what a load of tosh
who else has been allowed to access
you just cant trust em

jakdelad

Deleted User wrote: »

All your details are stored and will be released in 99 years.
The full 1901 and 1911 censuses are available online - have a look around for your grandparents or great-grand-parents.
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/
The information that is is released for researchers is anonymous.

wont be around in 99 years,jesus
all this to for grandparent tracking in 99 years??/

no wonder the imf own us,
god almighty

tweedledee28

Did anyone recieve notification as to whether they got a positon of cenus renumerator yet?

nordisk celt83

tweedledee28 wrote: »

Did anyone recieve notification as to whether they got a positon of cenus renumerator yet?

I got a letter saying I was selected for a local panel, but haven't heard anything since...

The letter wasn't particularly clear as to what that meant, but I gather it meant it was essentially a short-list of people in the locality.

As I haven't heard anything since Feb 17th, and the census process begins next week, I assume that I won't be called up to enumerate:(

nordisk celt83

The lack of clarification is kind of annoying, as I'd need to make arrangements re: work if I were selected!!!

No6

If you havn't heard then you havn't got the job yet, the training for ennumerators started today and some may drop out so then you may be called if you were placed on the panel.

Bloody Nipples

Anything against the law in me putting my religion down as Jedi?

JBnaglfar

Bloody Nipples wrote: »

Anything against the law in me putting my religion down as Jedi?

I don't know, but if you're not religious why not select no religion?

sarah-bear

The census will count everyone in the country on April 10th. That includes homeless people, travellers and people in hotels etc...

The information is confidential and covered by law (Statistics Act)

The information is not shared with any other goverment department (eg Social Welfare, Revenue, Immigration etc) at all.

The whole point of it is to generate statistical information of the country, and this information is used over the next 5 years (Until the next Census)

The census is held every 5 years as per EU law.

PetKing

Bloody Nipples wrote: »

Anything against the law in me putting my religion down as Jedi?

A UK based site, but still relevant.

www.yourenotajedi.com

caseyann

It gives people jobs,gives them an idea of the kids coming out of school to go on to the jobs or college or whatever lists,or who has left the country or came into the country .ETC......................
Nothing old about it at all.

Posy

Does anyone know what year the census stopped being once a decade? Was it 1911 or later, like is there a 1916 Census?

JBnaglfar

Posy wrote: »

Does anyone know what year the census stopped being once a decade? Was it 1911 or later, like is there a 1916 Census?

From here

To date censuses have been taken in 1926, 1936, 1946, 1951, 1956, 1961, 1966, 1971, 1979 (the census due in 1976 was cancelled as an economy measure), 1981, 1986, 1991, 1996, 2002 and 2006.

Pretty interesting that there was a census in 1979, and again 2 years later to keep the pattern going. Anyone know why it was 2002 rather than 2001?

heyjude

The census is a waste of time(unless you are a statistician or someone else paid to collect, collate or analyse the data), as its purpose is supposed to enable the government and public bodies to have the data necessary to make plans for the future and yet there is little evidence of the sort of good forward planning that would accompany a government that made use of the census data in that way.

As someone who had a bad experience with one of our major banks regarding a leak of confidential personal information,which I reported and which resulted in nothing being done, I have no confidence in any assurances from the government or cso regarding the confidentiality of any information contained in a census return, for proving that a leak of your confidential information came from a census return would be virtually impossible at a later stage. Aren't there rules on the use of information on the garda computer system too, yet you hear stories of individual gardai using the system to check up on people for personal reasons. Has anyone in any government office or state agency ever been prosecuted for leaking confidential information or allowing it to be stolen ? and if not, are we to believe that no such information has ever been leaked ?

Finally, the risks to the individual of his/her personal information being stolen or abused is too great and the benefits too small, when most of the information in the census is either already in the possession of some arm of the state or remains unchanged from the previous census. For example, the census may want to find out how many people are living in a particular household, but if you've been living in the same house for the past 20 years, why do they keep on asking you when the house was built ? Besides the council planning office will know when a property was built. I also do not understand, if the information is only to be used for planning purposes, why they need to know you exact date or birth rather than just your year of birth ? But it would make a big difference if the information goes astray.

JBnaglfar

heyjude wrote: »

The census is a waste of time(unless you are a statistician or someone else paid to collect, collate or analyse the data), as its purpose is supposed to enable the government and public bodies to have the data necessary to make plans for the future and yet there is little evidence of the sort of good forward planning that would accompany a government that made use of the census data in that way.

While security is going to be an issue, its hardly fair to move from one bad experience with a bank to rejection of the census.

No expert on the census here, but one of its uses as mentioned in the constitution regarding political representation (Article 16.2.3)

The ratio between the number of members to be elected at any time for each constituency and the population of each constituency, as ascertained at the last preceding census, shall, so far as it is practicable, be the same throughout the country.

RoastBeefDinner

There is a bloke going around knocking on doors in our residential complex at 3 in the afternoon! I mean cop-on, people are generally at work at that hour anyways.
So he knocks on my door and I answer through the window "what do you want"?
he replies "census" and I say stick it in the letterbox and I will read it later.
He says, "no I have to take some information from you". I ask him "such as"?
He replied "your name". I tell him to piss-off and come back another day and shut the window.
I filled it out in 2006 and in 2011 my situation hasn't changed. I still live in a country with no future prospects for young people to buy a home or start a family unless your mammy and daddy are feeding you! what a load of ****.

caseyann

RoastBeefDinner wrote: »

There is a bloke going around knocking on doors in our residential complex at 3 in the afternoon! I mean cop-on, people are generally at work at that hour anyways.
So he knocks on my door and I answer through the window "what do you want"?
he replies "census" and I say stick it in the letterbox and I will read it later.
He says, "no I have to take some information from you". I ask him "such as"?
He replied "your name". I tell him to piss-off and come back another day and shut the window.
I filled it out in 2006 and in 2011 my situation hasn't changed. I still live in a country with no future prospects for young people to buy a home or start a family unless your mammy and daddy are feeding you! what a load of ****.

Wow that is so rude,poor guy was just doing his job and its miserable weather.:mad: Shame on you :mad:

I havent got one yet.

JBnaglfar

RoastBeefDinner wrote: »

There is a bloke going around knocking on doors in our residential complex at 3 in the afternoon! I mean cop-on, people are generally at work at that hour anyways.
So he knocks on my door and I answer through the window "what do you want"?
he replies "census" and I say stick it in the letterbox and I will read it later.
He says, "no I have to take some information from you". I ask him "such as"?
He replied "your name". I tell him to piss-off and come back another day and shut the window.
I filled it out in 2006 and in 2011 my situation hasn't changed. I still live in a country with no future prospects for young people to buy a home or start a family unless your mammy and daddy are feeding you! what a load of ****.

Fair enough if you're unhappy with the state of the country, but why would you take it out on some random guy doing his job?

Also, why tell him to piss off and come back another day?

Poochie05

JBnaglfar wrote: »

From here

Pretty interesting that there was a census in 1979, and again 2 years later to keep the pattern going. Anyone know why it was 2002 rather than 2001?

Think 2001 was year of the Foot and Mouth outbreak and census was cancelled.

dan_d

This....is a whole lot of thread for very little reason......

It's just a census.Get over it.There's bigger things in life.

hotmama

RoastBeefDinner wrote: »

There is a bloke going around knocking on doors in our residential complex at 3 in the afternoon! I mean cop-on, people are generally at work at that hour anyways.
So he knocks on my door and I answer through the window "what do you want"?
he replies "census" and I say stick it in the letterbox and I will read it later.
He says, "no I have to take some information from you". I ask him "such as"?
He replied "your name". I tell him to piss-off and come back another day and shut the window.
I filled it out in 2006 and in 2011 my situation hasn't changed. I still live in a country with no future prospects for young people to buy a home or start a family unless your mammy and daddy are feeding you! what a load of ****.

Wow u really are an a**hole. I am enumerator, previously unemployed and hope i don't come across any narrowminded, cynical sh**s like u

dixiefly

dan_d wrote: »

This....is a whole lot of thread for very little reason......
It's just a census.Get over it.There's bigger things in life.

Totally agree.......incredible how some people will get uptight and upset over pretty well anything using all sorts of fabricated reasons to justify it.

cyclopath2001

Will the questions on proficiency in Irish be put in Irish or English?

caseyann

cyclopath2001 wrote: »

Will the questions on proficiency in Irish be put in Irish or English?

Dont they have both sections?

Derfil

When do we get them?

hotmama

to answer last 3 questions- the question is in english u have an english census form which brings me to the nxt q. U have the option of taking a fully english or fully irish or pretty much any other language u may need form. Lastly enumerators have started out today so u should get it between now and april 1st, if u don't get onto cso who will get onto ur local enumerator

cyclopath2001

hotmama wrote: »

to answer last 3 questions- the question is in english u have an english census form which brings me to the nxt q. U have the option of taking a fully english or fully irish or pretty much any other language u may need form.

if the questions about proficiency in Irish are in English, would this not mean that people who think they can speak Irish, but cannot, might give an inaccurate answer and thereby inflate the statistics for Irish speaking ability?

hotmama

cyclopath2001 wrote: »

if the questions about proficiency in Irish are in English, would this not mean that people who think they can speak Irish, but cannot, might give an inaccurate answer and thereby inflate the statistics for Irish speaking ability?

Absolutely but like any question on the census the cso are relying on people to be honest, the enumerators are only checking that all correct parts of the form are filled in, not the content

caseyann

cyclopath2001 wrote: »

if the questions about proficiency in Irish are in English, would this not mean that people who think they can speak Irish, but cannot, might give an inaccurate answer and thereby inflate the statistics for Irish speaking ability?

What you afraid of if they do or not?