Joey the lips wrote: » I love the work class attitude that exists in this country.
We have unions with no power.
People on crap wages.
a goverment who plays golf with manageing directors rather than look after us
bada_bing wrote: » 850 hours a year for CC????? that's less than half of what the average 9 to 5 person works in a year. I used my employment as an example e.g. 365 - 102 ( weekends) - 10 ( bank holidays) - 20 (annual leave) = 233 * 7.5 hours a day gives you 1747.5 hours a year for me. and that's all before you add in overtime & travelling abroad on the job. Seems they are indeed pampered , spoilt and out of touch with reality!!!!
ILA wrote: » Support the Workers!
The discrimination claims centre on the question of whether the airline had breached equality laws, as the new rosters had a greater impact on female staff by making it impossible for them to handle their family responsibilities.
SeaFields wrote: » I'm not too familiar with the whole thing but I wonder is there significance in that at the moment its only the Dublin staff involved in this dispute? Seems like the Cork and Shannon crews are just getting on with it as per the agreement. Or is it likely to spread? I'm flying out of Cork next Saturday. Will be a very, very angry man if my holiday is cancelled because of this.
OutlawPete wrote: » Quite a sweeping statement and if all unions did was act like the world owed them a living, their members would not tolerate it. Why would they? For one - it would get them nowhere in the longrun. Also, someone doesn't have to be a socialist to see the value in unions. It has become fashionable to deride them in this day an age, for whatever reason I don't know. You seem to be blind to how destructive capitalism would be without them. I'm not saying that they can be whiter than snow and are always acting from a position of genuine grievance, but without them this country would go to shit if it hasn't already that is. Unions are (or should be) just there to balance the power that management has over them. The potential for abuse of that power is massive the moral rights of workers need a voice and unions have to be it. You simply cannot have a fair and democratic capitalist society without them.
saywhatyousee wrote: » could be worse i am flying from dublin tomorrow with them:eek::eek:
whycliff wrote: » Don't comment on something you know nothing about. The 850 hours is 850 hours flight time, not actual working hours. So its basically from the time the aircraft takes of until it lands and reaches its gate. Having worked in Aerlingus in the past i know how it goes. As Cabin Crew you check in an hour before a flight, and 2 hours before an Transatlantic flight. Cabin Crew work unsocialble hours 7 days a week, bank holiday, easter, christmas all year round. Its not all the glitz and glam that some people would make it out to be. You fly to a destination, turn around and come back. If you do happen to do a Transatlantic flight, You fly out for up to a 14 hour duty, and then stay one night away from your family/friends and fly back the following day through the night Irish Time. You get home and your not worth a sh*t for 2 days because your body clock is all over the place. There are many different aspects to this dispute. One of which is Aerlingus do not wish to grant a half hour meal break during a duty. A duty could last anything up to a 10 hour day. In what other job would someone not get a half hour break during a 9 hour day? In saying that, there are plenty of people in Aerlingus that should be glad they have a job. I'm neither siding with the Union or the Company, but people should know all the facts.
OisinT wrote: » This is one of the main reasons why I'm dreading a large Labour presence in any new government. This type of bullyboy tactics is wrong.
whycliff wrote: » As Cabin Crew you check in an hour before a flight, and 2 hours before an Transatlantic flight. Cabin Crew work unsocialble hours 7 days a week, bank holiday, easter, christmas all year round. Its not all the glitz and glam that some people would make it out to be. You fly to a destination, turn around and come back. If you do happen to do a Transatlantic flight, You fly out for up to a 14 hour duty, and then stay one night away from your family/friends and fly back the following day through the night Irish Time. You get home and your not worth a sh*t for 2 days because your body clock is all over the place.
will1977 wrote: » Correct me if Im wrong but do they not spend 3 nights when they are in the US in 4/5 star hotels before they fly back and then get another 2/3 days off after they come back ??
To all my friends , these are the real truths as to why the cabin crew in aer lingus need to stand up for their rights , could you take this lying down? Please support Aer lingus cabin crew ... all info below available on impact facebook page All meal breaks removed from European flights. This means cabin crew can work shifts of up to 11 hours with no meal break. There was formerly an entitlement to a half-hour break after six hours duties. Double shifts where staff must work on flights out and back from a destination twice in a day. (eg: Dublin-London-Dublin-London-Dublin. These ‘doubles’ can also include other destinations of similar distance, eg, Paris; Amsterdam; Hamburg. The doubles mean a working day of up to 11 hours – and more if there are delays for any reason. Duties can be changed by 3 hours on the day of duty. Eg, you could come in to do a 7am flight to be told you are on a different flight departing up to three hours later – and can finish work three hours later than rostered. A nightmare if you have kids or other caring responsibilities. Similarly, duties can be changed by up to four hours the day before the rostered shift. The existing right to request one weekend off duty every eight weeks is abolished under the new rosters. The minimum of 8 rostered days off per month is reduced to 7. Cabin crew can be sent to work away from base for 26 days at a stretch. No such duty has yet been rostered, but there are big fears about how this would work in practice, particularly for those with childcare and other caring responsibilities. The rest period on transatlantic flights has been halved from 24 to 12 hours. This means that staff can do the outward flight to, say, New York and then work the flight back to Ireland that evening.
SIX PACK wrote: » I was meant to fly with AerLingus today but flight is cancelled, Why the hell cant the Airline operate & replace the crew with emergency staff so the customers can get to & from their destination, Im so angry Knew i should of flew Ryanair
