FlutterinBantam wrote: » Real as it gets, I'm afraid. What qualifications had your three friends to sell mind altering drugs to the public?.
120_Minutes wrote: » The same ones required by pubs??
Elevator wrote: » but wait the pubs/off-licences have a licence granted to them for a fee by our government so that's ok like fcuk it is!!!
Elevator wrote: » @flutt my friends who worked in the head shops were no more "qualified" than your average street dealer, by and large most street dealers have a personal relationship with most of their clientelle and wouldn't like to hear of anyone coming to any harm (good drug dealers) and I cam tell you now that there are good and bad drug dealers!! nobody was ever offered drugs on tick in the head shops!! nobody was ever given bad advice in the head shops! unlike the government, my mates told people the truth so as to minimise the likely hood of a bad experience.
Elevator wrote: » Mary harneys bull**** about mushrooms, bzp, mephadrone fell on deaf ears with users cos we had all taken them and they really weren't as bad as she made them out to be, surprise surprise haha. if head shops had been left to sell mushrooms like at the begining then there wouldn't have been a need to get in stock to keep the shop open! you might think we've turned a corner since the head shops closed but I think you're like another brian lenihen, deluded!!
Elevator wrote: » drugs have been around for a long time and they'll be around for infinity, they'll probably outlive the human race, unless the earth turns into a fireball and not even plant matter survives!!
FlutterinBantam wrote: » I think that about answers everything!! The drug dealers are our friends and want to help us!! The only thing I think is that Ireland is better off without unqualified people selling untested drugs to people legally. Indeed they will, lot longer than most of the users I would suspect. That's life.
FlutterinBantam wrote: » let me introduce you to reality
Pace2008 wrote: » Holy ****, heroin's dangerous? Better warn my clubber mates; we're mad for the stuff at the moment.
thebigbiffo wrote: » yeah, the reality that drugs can kill and that most deaths are related to cocaine and heroin? can ya post anything actually relevant there flute?
Elevator wrote: » checkmatehttp://www.drugsandalcohol.ie/6389/1/4045-4323.pdf
FlutterinBantam wrote: » Much better place man, parents can now let their children and teenagers go to school safe in the knowledge that at lunchtime, instead of heading (pardon the pun) to the local headshop and getting some products which have not been tested,sold by people who only want to make a fast buck, but are totally unqualified and risking their long term health, they just eat their lunch. These people and their shops mushroomed quickly,proof that they have plenty of ready cash and saw a money making opportunity big time. Well done for closing them down and ridding the streets of them and the people who use them Ireland is a cleaner and better place for sure.
Pookah wrote: » You can't beat AH for satire.
FlutterinBantam wrote: » Sure
Mephedrone ban blamed for rise in cocaine deaths Banning the "dance drug" mephedrone may have cost lives rather than saving them – by driving users back to cocaine, an expert said yesterday. Latest figures show deaths from cocaine and ecstasy fell during the first six months of 2009 at a time when the popularity of mephedrone, then still a "legal high", was rising. Separate evidence suggests that many drug users may have substituted it for cocaine, which could account for a decline in cocaine-related deaths. Although mephedrone itself has been linked with several deaths, subsequent investigations have cast doubt on how dangerous it really is.
General Zod wrote: » so the main jist of your argument is that Headshops were bad because there was a cocaine and heroin epidemic in 2007? Not as many tooting these days, I'd wager.
Lando Griffin wrote: » Its now almost 6 months since the Parents against Headshops got these evil, opportunist businesses closed down. Now with a generation of young people without drugs, has it made this country a safer place to walk the streets of the villages knowing that a crazed drug fuelled youth will jump out at you and rob your purse? Or when you are at 8.30am mass on Sunday morning the sound of the choir will be drowned by a fire engine coming to rescue 2 out of their mind youths from the steeple? It has also probably freed up more space in our A&E wards on Saturday nights as mind bent drug users no longer start fights and are no longer demented from illusions. Our mental institutions are now not suffering from an influx of thousands of youths and the like trying to get over their last "high". Employers can now relax as their staff turn up for work without the ill effects of drug taking over the weekend. Youth and the like also have more money to spend on the important things in life instead of throwing it away to some legalised drug peddeler. Do you thing Ireland is a better place without headshops.
Pace2008 wrote: » Are you just going to keep spamming links to articles you've Googled to back up your predetermined position, without trying to put them in any sort of context? Two anecdotal instances instances per week of patients presenting symptoms caused by head shop products does not sound like doomsday stuff, especially when you consider the amount of people who end up in A&E purely as a result of their own stupidity. I don't want to drag this down the well-trodden alcohol vs. drugs route, but I'd say if hospitals imposed a measure whereby patients who appear in the emergency department with drink-induced injuries would be arrested for public intoxication after receiving treatment, you'd free up a lot more valuable doctors' time. So what's next: a link to an unreferenced sixth-year biology slide on the effects of cannabis from none other than Gráinne Kenny's EURAD, the organisation that petitioned to have Japanese Maple plants removed from a café in Cork as they resembled cannabis plants? Or maybe another piece from the DEA on the dangers of liberal drug laws that actually contradicts what you're trying to say? (see: the last substantial thread on head shops, in which I had the sense to refrain from posting.)
thebigbiffo wrote: » jesus yeah - i actually thought those pesky headshops weren't too bad till i found out (obviously thanks to prof flute) that they were selling heroin and coke to school kids. i rang joe duffy then and he sorted it out. where'd we be without flute and jow to protect us?
