The Highwayman wrote: » can't be right in any era can it?
nummnutts wrote: » If he existed he'd be considered a pedo. But given the fact he doesn't (in my opinion), then no. He's just a made up pedophile. Just like pedobear, who also can't be one because he's a cartoon.
FearDark wrote: » Obligitory durka durka mohammed jihad.
nummnutts wrote: » If he existed he'd be considered a pedo. But given the fact he doesn't (in my opinion), then no. He's just a made up pedophile. Just like pedobear, who also can't be one because he's a cartoon. I'd draw a diagram to show how it would be impossible for Mo' to be a pedophile, but I thought I'd pass. My Danish artist friend advised me not to, as he thought it would annoy some beardy muppet, who also enjoys intimacy with goats (allegedly), that lives in a cave many miles to the east of here.
old_aussie wrote: » Looks like all here(AH) are trying to force western values on islamic countries. Beware that a jihad will be launched against all and sundry. In islam it's seems likw it's the thing to do...... The sad case of Elham Assi, a 13-year old Yemeni girl who died from internal hemorrhaging after being raped by her 23-year-old husband, has certainly sparked conversation in Yemen over the longstanding practice of child marriage. But the conversations -- taking place everywhere from Sanaa kitchens to the parliament building -- aren't exactly what you'd expect. Instead of addressing the question of children's rights in a country where a quarter of all girls are married before they're 15 and half before they're 18, some Yemenis are treating Elham Assi's death as a rallying point against the so-called imposition of a Western agenda. Instead of catalyzing protective legislation for children in Yemen, as the tragic 1911 Triangle Factory fire did for industrial laborers in the United States, her death may actually make it more likely that others will share her fate. More... In February 2009, parliament approved a bill to raise the marriage age to 18 years old, causing an immediate furor in the Islamist community, which denounced the legislation as un-Islamic. The September 2009 death of a 12-year-old-girl in childbirth once again drove home the importance of this issue. However, the bill has since languished while a parliamentary subcommittee decides whether or not it's in accordance with sharia law. The subcommittee's decision is scheduled for May.http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2010/04/30/yemens_child_bride_backlash
Terry wrote: » Wow. Legal paedophilia.
Strange Loop wrote: » The claim that she was 9 when the marriage was consumated came from a book written some 250 years after the fact, and all subsequent claims came from this. Modern historians using a method of aging people according to other events that occured around the same time have determined she was 10 years older, aged 19, when she and Mohammed had sex. So, the fact is there are no facts. Do you believe the guy 250 years after the marriage or do you believe the modern-day historians? (or will you take the agnostic position) I suspect peoples personal feelings towards Muslims will help determine which 'fact' they choose to believe.
Terry wrote: » Well if you're going to put it that way, I'd tend to believe that the Yemeni (that's the plural, right?) want to believe he was a paedo. I'm basing this on their reaction to proposed sensible laws.
Strange Loop wrote: » It suits their cultural practices to do so, so yes, they seem to believe it.
Terry wrote: » Still doesn't make it right though.
skelliser wrote: » Actually there is quite alot of evidence that suggests he did exist.
scientific1982 wrote: » Mohammed is actually a historical figure.
Strange Loop wrote: » The claim that she was 9 when the marriage was consumated came from a book written some 250 years after the fact, and all subsequent claims came from this.
Modern historians using a method of aging people according to other events that occured around the same time have determined she was 10 years older, aged 19, when she and Mohammed had sex.
So, the fact is there are no facts. Do you believe the guy 250 years after the marriage or do you believe the modern-day historians? (or will you take the agnostic position)
Wibbs wrote: » True, but even so that culture clearly saw no issue with the notion of their most revered figure marrying 9 year olds.
The Muslim/Arabic culture 250 years after the events were supposed to have happened thought that 9 year olds marrying 50 odd year olds was acceptable.
Well the modern types have their own agenda too of course.
Strange Loop wrote: » The Yemenis, you mean?
The OP asked a question about Mohammad only, which I answered as best I could.
Then so too, perhaps, Bukhari, the guy who first claimed the girl was 9.
kjl wrote: » No, pedophilia refers to preteen girls.
