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Ireland highest emigration rate in the EU.

RachPie

Story by the Irish Times can be found here.

So, more people are leaving Ireland in the EU than anywhere else.
I know that it might just be facts and figures in the article, but there's a definite indication of many people emigrating in everyday life too - not a week or two passes without hearing of someone who's now living in Australia or America, planning to, or are soon to be gone.

Are any of you planning to leave, are overseas, or have gone and come back? Personally, I'm thinking of it once I finish college.

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Nodin

Ikky Poo2 wrote: »

Not nessecarily. They first few years (up until about 2001/2002) were genuinely progressive. Foreign corporations came here and set up and brought with them investment and employment. It was after that that the bubble started, mainly due to dodgy rezoning practices and Charlie McCreevey spedning ****loads of money we technically didn't have and letting finanical institutsions (eg Anglo Irish) do what they liked. This was the ****-up.

Fair enuffski.

rossie1977

Slunk wrote: »

the fact that theres so much crime and so little punishment for it and can only see it getting worse from looking at younger kids in the area. Working every hour I can and then to see people getting hand outs from SW for having five kids and doing **** all work. It annoys me more so than anythnig else. The honest hard working people are getting screwed big time

obviously next stop is the middle east so

whatever you do don't go to the states

Stephen

<---- that location field used to say Kilkenny.

HalloweenJack

It is possible to work over in Oz. Darwin is a good place to go to now, from what I've heard. I imagine places in NSW and Victoria are probably harder to find jobs in because that's where the vast majority of immigrants go when they go there. There's more to Oz than Melbourne and Sydney. The Oz economy isn't that bad.

Brazil and China are also countries where the economic situation isn't as bad as the Western world. If people out there are willing to go to a country where they don't speak English, the options are much better.

Me, I have a love-hate relationship with Ireland. I'm proud to be Irish but I hate living here.

For me, the whole idiocy over head-shops is one sign of how ill-informed and quick to knee-jerk reactions this country's politicians are. Instead of regulating drugs and admitting that people like to use them, the politicians want to force drugs underground and pretend that Irish people don't do them whatsoever. This is idiotic.

And that's just one small thing of many that annoys me about Ireland.

I spent a semester in Spain and I loved it over there. Unfortunately, the economy's probably worse over there than here. I'll probably head over there to teach English (which is a very easy job to get) when I finish college and then try find something else.

thisguy

Ikky Poo2 wrote: »

Most Europena countries came out of recession a lot quicker than Ireland has, with most on the road to recovery. Mostly because they didn't go nuts and let their financial giants do what they wanted.

What european countries have come out of recession quicker?Ireland is already officialy out of recession, and is one of the first to do so. It may not seem like it yet but recession is over, and while unemployment will take another while to start to fall yet we are going about things the right way, and will recover. Britain is going to have a tough time for a good few years now because they delayed their recoevery measures, im quite happy that we have taken a lot of our pain and can now see the light at the end of the tunnel.

Andrew33

Nodin wrote: »

If theres such a high birth rate, how are the muslim hordes supposed to take over, thats what I want to know...

Stats might read we have the highest birth rate but you can be guaranteed its not to parents born here in Ireland. I know, I know, this'll be seen as another xenophobic rant but I dare anybody to produce proof that's its otherwise.

D.R cowboy

This is great news , less traffic on the N11 whooo!!!!!!
Now if we could only get the scumbags to follow suit

caseyann

Andrew33 wrote: »

Stats might read we have the highest birth rate but you can be guaranteed its not to parents born here in Ireland. I know, I know, this'll be seen as another xenophobic rant but I dare anybody to produce proof that's its otherwise.

Its a ridiculous analogy.

The 2006 census recorded the number of Roman Catholics at 3,644,965, with 118,948 Church of Ireland, including Protestants [7]. In terms of numbers, Islam in Ireland is relatively insignificant, and although Muslims can claim to be the third largest faith group in Ireland[1] they also lagged significantly behind those who claimed to have no religion, at 175,252, and those who did not state a religion, at 66,750.

caseyann

D.R cowboy wrote: »

This is great news , less traffic on the N11 whooo!!!!!!
Now if we could only get the scumbags to follow suit

I wonder when i come back for holidays to visit family,will it be wow different or like you said,no cars on road back to good auld days

My name is URL

ejmaztec wrote: »

If it weren't for the government (this one and all of the previous governments), there would probably be loads of jobs.

If the sheep ever stopped voting in lazy useless fuckers, we might get somewhere.

Going by this thread the only people who'll be left behind are the sheep.. It's a sad state of affairs to be in.. how things will ever improve is beyond me, when the brightest people are the ones most likely to emigrate.

I_AmThe_Walrus

As a matter of fact, I am planning to leave.

Most of my childhood friends have already hit the road, specifically during the last year - Canada, Australia, UK and even Brazil (where the money will be in 10 year because of their growing economy). A lot of people view it as an "in" thing where it's cool to go away but the fact is, there just isn't any openings with our skills at the moment.

I don't buy into this patriotic excuse our Government is asking of us to stay and get us out of a hole - people need to work and earn a living. By the same token, these are the people who have totally neglected the blatant corruption over the last number of years within the civil service.

If it's a choice between earning a good income, living happy abroad and learning something about the world or staying here in a cesspool of high cost of living, with little or no return, I would be on the next plane in a heartbeat. It just doesn't make sense, financially, to stay put anymore.

Slunk

rossie1977 wrote: »

obviously next stop is the middle east so whatever you do don't go to the states

Are you trying to say this is not the truth?

D.R cowboy

caseyann wrote: »

I wonder when i come back for holidays to visit family,will it be wow different or like you said,no cars on road back to good auld days

Well I hope the grammar police are still around to arrest you;)

charlemont

its a godsend for FF i reckon they will find a way to stay in power in 2012 with most dissatisfied people out of ireland and no overseas voting....

its easier to control a small population too...

D.R cowboy

My name is URL wrote: »

Going by this thread the only people who'll be left behind are the sheep.. It's a sad state of affairs to be in.. how things will ever improve is beyond me, when the brightest people are the ones most likely to emigrate.

I would rather have the sheep instead of them bogger any day

caseyann

D.R cowboy wrote: »

Well I hope the grammar police are still around to arrest you;)

Ah chill the hell out :mad: lol

jester77

I'm gone 8 or 9 years, no regrets thus far. Went total loopy back in Ireland, I'd come home for a visit and would have to laugh at the guys in what would be considered average earning jobs in any other country building mansions, driving big cars and acting like big shots. I couldn't go to the pub but would get asked about the price of houses and what the market was like where I was

I'm not surprised that things have turned out as they have.

RachPie

jester77 wrote: »

I'm gone 8 or 9 years, no regrets thus far. Went total loopy back in Ireland, I'd come home for a visit and would have to laugh at the guys in what would be considered average earning jobs in any other country building mansions, driving big cars and acting like big shots. I couldn't go to the pub but would get asked about the price of houses and what the market was like where I was I'm not surprised that things have turned out as they have.

Have to agree with you there. Bro is in England working in business, he's earning enough money too - but isn't rushing off to buy several houses or an SUV.
Where are you gone, out of interest?

My name is URL

There should be a stipulation on students availing of subsidised education.. particularly those studying for the most vital professions; (doctors etc) which states that unless they agree to stay in the country for a set amount of time after graduating, they'll be required to either attend college abroad or forfeit their placement to somebody who is happy to work here for a time

danbohan

Ikky Poo2 wrote: »

Emigrated two years ago, am happy. Have a job, my own company - no real reason to go back (at least not permanantly).

I think the fact that emigration and unemployment are exactly back where they were in the 80s is testaments to FF's **** up of the Celtic Tiger.

i left in the 80s , came back in late 99, and am leaving again , i dont have too, i made few bob but this place smells of the same sh;;;t it did in 80s , same politicans or their kids telling the same lies and preparing to screw the average worker to protect the usual crew + ps +sw . they will have to do it without my tax !

myflipflops

Coming up to 10 months away. Soon to be leaving this location to go to Asia too. I left as i was sick of my very succesful employers using the general economic climate as an excuse to freeze my pay despite their increasing growth and profitablility. Got a much better paying job in the same field that is allowing me to experience different parts of the world.

I miss Ireland a lot generally though. It remains my home.

dr gonzo

Wow it begins again, employers will be dusting off the NINA signs soon enough if this thread is an indicator of possible emigration figures.

Ill be moving to London for a year in a couple of years time but thats the closest plan i have to emigration. This country is gonna go even further to the dogs if young educated peoples' first instinct is to get the hell out instead of staying and trying to fix the problems that are endemic across the board here(Easier said then done i know).

myflipflops

My name is URL wrote: »

There should be a stipulation on students availing of subsidised education.. particularly those studying for the most vital professions; (doctors etc) which states that unless they agree to stay in the country for a set amount of time after graduating, they'll be required to either attend college abroad or forfeit their placement to somebody who is happy to work here for a time

Maybe a decent idea in theory but I suspect it would contravene some freedom of labour laws in the EU? Also, how do you define vital and how do you operate stipulations on free education for some but not for others?

jordan..

one more year of studying and im outa this ****hole! cant wait

mojesius

I'll probably feck off to the States again for a year after xmas if I don't get a job here. After that, we'll see. Hopefully, 'the visitors' will have taken control by then.

RachPie

mojesius wrote: »

I'll probably feck off to the States again for a year after xmas if I don't get a job here. After that, we'll see. Hopefully, 'the visitors' will have taken control by then.

Visitors...?

[Deleted User]

thisguy wrote: »

What european countries have come out of recession quicker?Ireland is already officialy out of recession, and is one of the first to do so. It may not seem like it yet but recession is over, and while unemployment will take another while to start to fall yet we are going about things the right way, and will recover. Britain is going to have a tough time for a good few years now because they delayed their recoevery measures, im quite happy that we have taken a lot of our pain and can now see the light at the end of the tunnel.

Honestly, everything seems fine in England. None of my relatives have lost their job and people coming out of my university are being offered jobs left, right and centre. I was shocked when I went back to Ireland a few weeks ago on a Saturday night and saw how many taxis are all over the place looking for fares and how empty the pubs and clubs are, and every single one of my Irish friends was either unemployed or in a really crap job. That just isn't the case here.

HalloweenJack

My name is URL wrote: »

There should be a stipulation on students availing of subsidised education.. particularly those studying for the most vital professions; (doctors etc) which states that unless they agree to stay in the country for a set amount of time after graduating, they'll be required to either attend college abroad or forfeit their placement to somebody who is happy to work here for a time

Why?

If you are a citizen of this country, you are entitled to the free education the Gov offers, one of the few good things they do.

Also, if you live in this country, you will be paying taxes and contributing to the State.

caseyann

HalloweenJack wrote: »

Why?

If you are a citizen of this country, you are entitled to the free education the Gov offers, one of the few good things they do.

Also, if you live in this country, you will be paying taxes and contributing to the State.

Can you tell me where this free education is? lol :eek:

RachPie

Free education is sort of questionable, seeing as they raised the fees, plus the cost of books and accomodation.
I wonder how people without grants pay for it all

But it could be worse, we could all have loans like English students.