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Bus Driver throws pregnant woman and screaming child off bus

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Just came across this

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/devon/10347585.stm

Will probably get suspended or fired. But who here would love him as your bus driver?

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dresden8

Wibbs wrote: »

+1. Kids with decent parents and no emotional or physical conditions are pretty well behaved. Yep they're kids so can go off on one from time to time and fair play, but sweet zombie jesus every third ankle biter these days is a screaming f'kin mess. The parents are nearly always mouth breathers. the former stems from the latter. My best mate's kids can be boisterous nutbags at times. Christ, he's a boisterous nutbag so the apples didnt fall far from the tree, but they're well behaved kids as a general thing, though I reckon they favour their ma in that dept.

I have a cousin who has kids. Boy and girl. Apparently they have "issues" and see a shrink. They're 5 and 8 FFS. :rolleyes: Now they do act like nutters, but they dont around me. I give them boundaries. Their parents dont. simple as that. The cousins wife has said to me "god they're so well behaved around you". No shít sherlock. I engage with them and let them be kids, but they also know there's a limit and I will enforce that limit. I'll let them push it, cos kids need that to figure the limits out, but there is a line. TBH I find them grand. TL;DR? I blame the thick parents.

My sister is a very good parent.

Her son decided he didn't like eating. He didn't eat. She left him hungry, he didn't get hungry. She tried to cajole him to eat, he wouldn't be cajoled. She lost patience. He wouldn't be budged. She made him eat, he could make himself sick of his own free will.

She brought him to the doctor and hospital. They treated her like an abuser who was starving her son because he was underweight.

Not everything can be solved in half an hour on the telly.

**** happens. It ain't predictable.

owenc

DarkJager wrote: »

My life is my life and it will never involve children. So any learning I do will be of my own accord and free will. I can't see what you are implying with that statement.

You remind me on my father, your obviously some cranky 40+ year old.:mad:

bob50

genericguy wrote: »

people who bring young children on planes are selfish cnuts. the children should have to pass a test demonstrating their ability to understand the phrase "shut the fcuk up, nobody else here gives a fcuk if you want sweets".

What a confined place to have to share with screaming kids I blame the parents they are too selfish wanting everything & its not fair on young kids

DarkJager

owenc wrote: »

You remind me on my father, your obviously some cranky 40+ year old.:mad:

In my outlook on life - perhaps...in age - no.

Wibbs

dresden8 wrote: »

Not everything can be solved in half an hour on the telly.

**** happens. It ain't predictable.

Who said it could be or was? Not me. Of course even the best parents can have a crisis. It doesnt mean there arent a lot of kids out there who are fcuked because they have daft parents.

owenc wrote: »

You remind me on my father, your obviously some cranky 40+ year old.:mad:

Naw that would be me.

Never wanted kids, though had at least some sense to realise that I wouldnt be a great father. What is worrying is that even though Im not paternal, I would be a better bet than some out there. I could probably wing it well enough as I had pretty good parents myself and I have a couple of mates who are damn good at it. So bound to have picked something up. That and I actually remember what its like to be a kid. One of the biggest failures in a few people I know.

Cookie_Monster

well done that man!

Coriolanus

Wibbs wrote: »

I have a cousin who has kids. Boy and girl. Apparently they have "issues" and see a shrink. They're 5 and 8 FFS. :rolleyes: Now they do act like nutters, but they dont around me. I give them boundaries. Their parents dont. simple as that. The cousins wife has said to me "god they're so well behaved around you". No shít sherlock. I engage with them and let them be kids, but they also know there's a limit and I will enforce that limit. I'll let them push it, cos kids need that to figure the limits out, but there is a line. TBH I find them grand. TL;DR? I blame the thick parents.

This. It's amazing how quick kids fall in line once you start acting like an adult and start treating them like children.

Wibbs

bob50 wrote: »

What a confined place to have to share with screaming kids I blame the parents they are too selfish wanting everything & its not fair on young kids

It depends. I mean toddlers do what toddlers do to some degree anyway. Where I get píssed off is when I see parents bringing very young babies on planes on holiday. I mean WTF? You're bringing your 6 month old, barely out of the womb child into a pressurised environment exposing them to noise, possible delays, all sorts of potential pathogens and then exposing them to a sudden climate change etc. Just because you want a sun holiday? Cop the hell on.

owenc

Wibbs wrote: »

Who said it could be or was? Not me. Of course even the best parents can have a crisis. It doesnt mean there arent a lot of kids out there who are fcuked because they have daft parents.

Naw that would be me. Never wanted kids, though had at least some sense to realise that I wouldnt be a great father. What is worrying is that even though Im not paternal, I would be a better bet than some out there. I could probably wing it well enough as I had pretty good parents myself and I have a couple of mates who are damn good at it. So bound to have picked something up. That and I actually remember what its like to be a kid. One of the biggest failures in a few people I know.

No, i don't want kids but i still respect them and don't go on like its the 50s the way my dad does... everytime we ask for something hes like "i never got that.." whatever!

gsxr1

Wibbs wrote: »

I could probably wing it well enough as I had pretty good parents myself and I have a couple of mates who are damn good at it. So bound to have picked something up. That and I actually remember what its like to be a kid. One of the biggest failures in a few people I know.

AHHHH, but in most cases (well, mine) You do not choose parenthood, It chooses you . LOL

noura

there's nothing I hate more than putting people in embarrassing situations

pearljamfan

:rolleyes: obviously nobody here has kids themselves....

Stark

dresden8 wrote: »

Those spoilt little sh1ts will end up paying your pension. Be thankful.

Or bleed you dry on welfare.

dresden8

Wibbs wrote: »

Who said it could be or was? Not me. Of course even the best parents can have a crisis. It doesnt mean there arent a lot of kids out there who are fcuked because they have daft parents.

But let's throw them off the bus anyway, especially if we're cranky that day.

Oh the irony.

DarkJager

pearljamfan wrote: »

:rolleyes: obviously nobody here has kids themselves....

A few people here don't want anything to do with them. Is there something wrong with that?

Giselle

I don't have kids, but I can't believe the level of intolerance here. The kid in question was two. Not ten, two.

I'm shocked at the level of bile and vitriol levelled at kids and their parents in general, and the implication that they should be banished from public places because the childless somehow matter more.

master_chief

DarkJager wrote: »

I'll pay my own pension thanks. Spoilt little ****s have even more reason to be told to shut the **** up. Children with sickness who are prone to bouts of screaming shouldn't be taken on public transport. Just because you've had a child doesn't mean the world revolves around you and it certainly doeesn't give you a permit for you or your spawn to wreck everyone elses heads.

Rubbish mate, however I can see you make some point.
How would you know if kid is going to cry or not?
And if it does then what, always call for taxi? Can you afford it?

The thing is - it's up to parent to look after the baby.
Baby usually screams because of hunger, thirst, dirty nappy or even boredom. Have little one myself and sometimes he goes off on the train but then I am extremely attending and do my absolute best to calm him down, which ALWAYS works. The UNTOLD story here probably is, that this mummy was probably proper chav, kid went on and on and she was maybe txting her hubby in the meantime to get 10 pack Dutch Gold on his way back rather than give her attention to the baby. In that case I salute the driver. Saw so many situations like that when pikeys completely just don't care and child is only child, how can you blame poor little thing who only tries to signalize by cry (cannot talk yet) he is unwell?

up for anything

DarkJager wrote: »

No worries man. A way to look at it is the good parents will find some way of pacifiying the child and stopping him causing a nuisance, especially on public transport. The **** parents will let him scream and then throw dagger eyes at anyone who dares to look at them.

We were all kids once, but thats just a stage of growing. It doesn't mean as adults that we should have to put up with it.

I've heard it all now! :eek::D:rolleyes:

up for anything

Giselle wrote: »

I don't have kids, but I can't believe the level of intolerance here. The kid in question was two. Not ten, two.

I'm shocked at the level of bile and vitriol levelled at kids and their parents in general, and the implication that they should be banished from public places because the childless somehow matter more.

You're forgetting that this is AH. All the tossers come out from under their rocks using that as their excuse.

Pay no heed. All us parents once believed that our children wouldn't be like other people's little brats! They'll learn someday when they hit puberty and begin the road to babymaking.

QuiteInterestin

In fairness to the driver, if the screaming was such that it was distracting him from being able to drive safely, he didn't really have a choice. Either he stopped the bus and waited for the child to stop crying (making every other passenger late and who knows how long it could have taken the child to calm down) or asks the mother and child to leave the bus. I think anyone with kids who drives will have experienced a screaming child/fighting kids in the back where the only option is to pull over. Thats grand if there's just you and the kids, but with a bus load of passengers the driver probably felt under pressure to keep driving.

Dudess

Harsh.

At times, even if the parent(s) is/are doing their best, the child still can't be stopped from having a screaming fit.

3DataModem

Interesting thread.

I get plane regularly with my infants... visiting Dublin.

If you don't want to travel in a aircraft cabin with infants, get the fecking boat and a private cabin. Or upgrade to 1st class on plane. Or hire a private jet.

The airlines allow kids, so I bring 'em. If you have a problem with my kid, talk to the stewardess... I'm sure she will move your seat.

Same in restaurants. I ALWAYS inform staff before booking a restaurant if there my kids are in tow... So if a fellow patron has a problem they can talk to the manager (or feck off - they're choice).

To the poster who wants nothing to do with kids... that's your hang-up, not the parents. So book adult-only holidays, adult-only busses, or whatever.

And to the person who recently objected to me changing my (silent) babies nappy in the disabled toilets (with baby changing table)... no that sh1t won't come out of your suede jacket.

Giselle

DarkJager wrote: »

A few people here don't want anything to do with them. Is there something wrong with that?

So is it okay to ban other groups of people from public places because some people don't want anything to do with them?

Why is it okay to single out kids like this? We were all kids once.

DarkJager

Giselle wrote: »

So is it okay to ban other groups of people from public places because some people don't want anything to do with them?

I said nothing about banning them. A bit of decent parenting would go a long way instead of letting the child scream its lungs out and cause an annoyance for everyone else taking the bus. And yes, a lot of people feel that way about screaming kids, they just won't tell you.

up for anything wrote: »

You're forgetting that this is AH. All the tossers come out from under their rocks using that as their excuse.

Pay no heed. All us parents once believed that our children wouldn't be like other people's little brats! They'll learn someday when they hit puberty and begin the road to babymaking.

The naivety of some people. Do you think all people want children and some day when "they hit puberty" they'll suddenly have some urge to have kids? I never want them, ever. And thats never going to change. Some people seem to think they have some moral highground just because they have a kid.

aDeener

owenc wrote: »

You remind me on my father, your obviously some cranky 40+ year old.:mad:

your mother should have swallowed

Cavehill Red

Giselle wrote: »

I don't have kids, but I can't believe the level of intolerance here. The kid in question was two. Not ten, two.

I'm shocked at the level of bile and vitriol levelled at kids and their parents in general, and the implication that they should be banished from public places because the childless somehow matter more.

By way of balance, I do have kids, and I'd be off the bus sorting the kid out rather than subject the public to a journey of caterwauling, yelling and screaming.
Never, ever brought a child on a plane under the age of 12. I wouldn't do it to them or to my fellow passengers. It's utterly selfish of the parents.
Any public displays of tantrums always resulted in the kid being frogmarched straight home. Didn't matter if it was a birthday party, or if other kids were yelling too.
Parents need to cop on and recall that their children are THEIR responsibility, and not that of the state or the general public.
People don't have to tolerate having their commutes or their flights ruined by some indulged brat screaming the place down.
A well-raised child, even in a complete fit, will calm down pretty instantly if the parent has been doing their job properly from day one, and not rearing their kid on sugar, TV and the kid's own whims.
That driver should be promoted.

DarkJager

3DataModem wrote: »

Interesting thread.

I get plane regularly with my infants... visiting Dublin.

If you don't want to travel in a aircraft cabin with infants, get the fecking boat and a private cabin. Or upgrade to 1st class on plane. Or hire a private jet.

The airlines allow kids, so I bring 'em. If you have a problem with my kid, talk to the stewardess... I'm sure she will move your seat.

Same in restaurants. I ALWAYS inform staff before booking a restaurant if there my kids are in tow... So if a fellow patron has a problem they can talk to the manager (or feck off - they're choice).

To the poster who wants nothing to do with kids... that's your hang-up, not the parents. So book adult-only holidays, adult-only busses, or whatever.

And to the person who recently objected to me changing my (silent) babies nappy in the disabled toilets (with baby changing table)... no that sh1t won't come out of your suede jacket.

A perfect example of the "parent syndrome".

"The world revolves around me and my child and **** everyone else"

Giselle

DarkJager wrote: »

I said nothing about banning them. A bit of decent parenting would go a long way instead of letting the child scream its lungs out and cause an annoyance for everyone else taking the bus. And yes, a lot of people feel that way about screaming kids, they just won't tell you.

You said previously you wanted nothing to do with them. I assume you aren't volunteering to remove yourself from public places?

I can't stand the sound of a crying baby or a toddlers tantrum. Even worse the older kid screaming because its not getting whatever it wants. It winds me up.

But I'm tolerant enough to know its just a kid being a kid most of the time, and one day it'll grow up and probably be a decent enough person. Thats life.

I just don't despise them, or their parents for having them.

dresden8

I'm sure the "progressives" on here consider themselves fairly liberal and don't believe women should be locked away from the general public, that' medieval muslim burqa crap.

Unless of course they have children who might happen to impinge on their ipod dronery on the bus.

In which case Fritz was only half wrong.

What part of your opinion am I misrepresenting here?

gsxr1

DarkJager wrote: »

A perfect example of the "parent syndrome".

"The world revolves around me and my child and **** everyone else"

Dont worry DarkJager. its in the post. hehehehe.

you should receive parent syndrome any year now. (if your lucky)

But seriously. People without kids have some sort of preconceived believe that kids can be controlled at the click of a finger.

Thats not how it works. They kick off with sparks and there anit nothing ya can do about it sometimes

If your in the area when it happens, be advised to stay away from a parent on the edge of explosion.