shawpower wrote: » Guys, I'm thinking of swapping over to the Tactical button layout on the XBox. I've tried it once or twice for a game or two, but never spent long enough at it to get fully used to it. The advantages of better control and ability to drop shot do seem to outweigh the quicker knifing ability, but this is the first FPS game I've played online, and I'm used to Regular layout at this stage. Is it really worth changing? And how long did it take others to get used to the swap? I also thought a vote would be handy to show the the split between those that use it and those that don't. Any other opinions welcome.
Tallon wrote: » Do it man.... "once you go tac, you never go back"
hightower1 wrote: » Wow, kniving and dropshotting are main points of your play style...... you must be real .... "fun" to play against. Bet you wish there was a controll scheme to allow you bunny hop endlessly too.
Shammy wrote: » Different layouts for different maps and classes , if playing domination on a small to medium map i'll use tactical layout.
shawpower wrote: » Do you not find it confusing swapping constantly?
shawpower wrote: » As in you go to knife someone and instead find yourself on the floor with them shooting you in the head, or try to drop to the floor cause you see someone 50m away and instead get stuck in a knifing animation while they casually pick you off?
shawpower wrote: » Oh, and I'd assume that small maps would suit Regular more, given that you're more likely to knife someone to save showing up on the radar?
Shammy wrote: » No If i have tactical setup on i dont knife at all , just drop shot if i come up against someone in close range, they usually knife, i'm hitting the floor while shooting. Maybe , but usually i'll drop shot instead of knifing, i find it quicker to dropshot than to knife.
Enigma IE wrote: » Shammy, I've played against you quite a few times and you definitely have the upper hand when it comes to close combat... so I'm taking notes here mate.
claiva wrote: » Me too !!!! So what is the difference between the normal set up and the tac set up ?
breadmonkey wrote: » Loving the retard "n00b" comments in this thread so far.
breadmonkey wrote: » I think tactical is better and would be perfect if you could knife by pressing RB+LB together.
breadmonkey wrote: » For those of you who use the tactical setup, how the hell do you knife? I switched to it recently and find I can never whip out the knife in time any more. Obviously I've been trying to always have my secondary out in close quarters but it's still costing me a lot of one v ones. Thoughts?
Shammy wrote: » So glad this thread amuses you "o great one" But how would we get out our smoke /grenades ? Look what i found
Oatesy23 wrote: » I use regular, drop shooting isn't really my thing. If you are the host of a game and dropshot you are a noob, imo. Host advantage + dropshot = no chance
breadmonkey wrote: » You misread my post so I'll forgive the tone of yours. I was actually referring to this guy's comments: And for the record, I was referring to the knife command being RB and LB at the same time, which I maintain would be superior.
hightower1 wrote: » I was making the comparison between drop shotters and bunny hopping in other online shooters like counterstrike, both take full advantage of a severely broken in game mechanic to up a kill ratio nothing more, I'm stand there and anyone implying or doing so would be thick beyond normal belief but if you were in a genuine firefight would you lay on the ground ? No you'd run and gun, imho drop shotting is no better than boosting its a cowards way of playing with a main focus on only increasing stats and makes the game less enjoyable. Same grenade launcher + noob tube + oma.... taking advantage of a broken in game mechanic simply to get stats up. By no stretch of the imagination is modern warfare a realistic game but its certainly not helped by stat hunters using broken game physics by running up to people, jumping in the air and landing on their stomachs to get kills, in fact if you do this in the game.... try it right now and see how ridiculous it is. In regards to people saying "oh would you like them to stand still for the kill".... how dense is that? So by that logic the only defense in cqc or any firefight is a noobish drop shot? No running in the game no? no sidestepping? no cover? no sprinting? no offensive tactics? no defensive weapons or grenades no? Get a clue. Drop shotting is a noobs tactic taking advantage of broken in game physics for easy kills.
Creasy_bear wrote: » I don't drop shot but whats the difference between the drop shot and say sidestepping with lightweight on? Surely youre just doing the same thing - trying to dodge the bullets Although I would agree with what ( maybe it was you that said it ) about the drop shot when youre hosting is kinda bad form
Shammy wrote: » Apologies , there was no quote .
hightower1 wrote: » No, sidestepping is a perfectly normal tactic to use in ANY game... hell even in real life, jumping then landing flat on your stomach is idiotic in both accounts. If you loose health and get stunned from falling from a height in the game doing a drop shot should do the same effect, try a real drop shot right now and see if your not seriously messed up after it. the game designers never intended for the jump and laying down actions to be used in this way if they had it would encour the same effect as falling from a height in the game just some people thought "oh this is a great way to get easy kills ... i'll use this loophole" its no better than the people using launcher and oma .... "oh this is a great way to get easy kills... i'll use this loophole". Its a noob thing to do with the guise of it taking skill when clearly it does not, like people camping in the game, there is no game mechanic stopping this but yet its not on to do cause it ruins the game for "normal" players who actually like playing the game as its meant to be played.
breadmonkey wrote: » Fair enough. No harm done. Which is worse, "noobs" and their ways, or the "pros" who can't adapt and choose to whinge incessantly instead?