GM071class wrote: » I actually texted George Hook when he had 'The King of PR' Barry Kenny on with him. In the text I posed the question of why its slower, by an HOUR in some cases, than it was in the 80's to get to Cork from Dublin.
DWCommuter wrote: » All additional services on the KRP have been postponed. What does it matter about when they were meant to start.
HeritageRailway wrote: » Current timetable allows circa 2 hours 50 minutes and of which 20 minutes is recovery time towards each termini. When did a train do Dublin-Cork in 1 hour 50 minutes?
KenGriffin wrote: » "Concentration camp trains" - that's a direct quote taken from the passenger involved. It's a statement of his opinion - not mine or the newspaper's. I have no control over what he says to me..
JHMEG wrote: » Better yes, acceptable no. Comfortable also no. Some of the trains are so stuffed that I'd hate to think of what would happen if there was a fire.
monument wrote: » Quoting is a selective process. It's your choice to include or exclude quotes. Once it gets out of your hand's it's the newspaper's choice. And not only was the quote used in the article, it was used again in one of the photo captions -- this is even clearer selection. You and the newspaper did have control.
dowlingm wrote: » We have no idea what trains are available for what. There's a 2700 set being painted to look like a 22K to Keep Colman Quiet rather than being out carrying passengers (although I secretly hope even IE aren't dumb enough to do it at a time when they weren't already doing a heavy check on the set).
KenGriffin wrote: » KRP - All the promised additional services have been postponed indefinitely. I apologise if that was unclear from the article.
KC61 wrote: » That as may be, but as I've made clear they couldn't have happened until the end of next year in any case given the lack of rolling stock. Given the way that IE timetabling plans change each year (and can do significantly) right up just before the timetable is introduced this point could yet change. That's the point that I have been making, along with the fact that the KRP will deliver much needed flexibility in peak hour operations.
Transportuser09 wrote: » Overcrowding on suburban trains/subways is not the sole preserve of Irish Rail - its to be found in cities all over the world, sometimes on a far worse scale than in Dublin.
GM071class wrote: » CIÉ at the time of timber bodied carriages on the mainline, had fairly long sets of carriages doing the run 'Super-Express' in 2 hours 15, the average these days is, granted, 45mins slower (3 being average). Recovery time is a typical example of IÉ messaging the results of punctuality. I have a timetable from 2006 at home, the 17.00 to Cork, calling at the same stops, got in nearly 25mins earlier, I'll double check that when I get home though. The journey times have been pushed back too far. They can sh!te on about more trains on the routes, but that's no help when trying to deal with the airlines, and the lovely motor car!
Judgement Day wrote: » Yes, despite being a fan of 'The Right Hook' the unchallenged IE/Barry Kenny 'love-in' is enough to make me spew. How much are Newstalk being paid by CIE/IE for this spot? As much as the Phoenix magazine were paid in pointless double page spread adverts from CIE/IE for dropping ALL vaguely critical pieces about the company?
KC61 wrote: » That as may be, but as I've made clear they couldn't have happened until the end of next year in any case given the lack of rolling stock.
lord lucan wrote: » JD,is this your handywork in the comments under the Tribune article?:D "#4 Tarquin Finchley commented, on April 11, 2010 at 10:35 p.m.: Is this article anti Children's Charity! Myself and Nigel Fitzgricer shall be making the journey over from the Mainland for the Western Rail Corridor Railway Children's Special and I can assure you that it all for the children and not to have Irish taxpayers support our trainspotting. For shame!"http://www.tribune.ie/news/article/2010/apr/11/rail-against-the-machine/
Sponge Bob wrote: » Thanks Ken, If I were you I would research the money that IE got over the years for 2.5hours Dublin to Galway and 2 Hours Dublin - Cork starting with their signalling projects in the 1970's They have promised those holy grails since the 1980s and are now slower than they were on both routes around 1970 I believe. Not worth saving and I don't believe them any more and Jeez, look who joined the facebook Group :eek:http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=117098984972045
Judgement Day wrote: » Or 90 minutes to Belfast promised 20 years ago and today most trains on that route are slower than they were then.
Sponge Bob wrote: » They rolled out those promises to resignal their lines in the 1970s 1980s Then they had 'track problems' so they replaced it all in the 1990s for passenger lines, every inch of it bar around Roscrea. Then they said their locos were maxed at 70-75mph and got new locos ( twice including Cork ones that they mothballed and them 10 years old) Now they have railcars which are the same speed as the locos. They may be 10 minutes faster to Sligo but not to Cork Galway Belfast where they make their money. I am sick of them.
Transportuser09 wrote: » In fairness the fact that parts can not be got for the 8200 Darts is not neccessarily that of Irish Rail.
MYOB wrote: » They bought them without ensuring they were of a decent quality, they failed to reject them when they turned out to be useless and they failed to source a spare parts supply for them for the expected life of a trainset (40 years). All three are Irish Rail's fault.
dowlingm wrote: » I think 40 years might be a bit ambitious for a commuter EMU no?
alentejo wrote: » I think there is a prob when you have 10 year old Darts which are considered past there sell by date. This is a disgrace.
Transportuser09 wrote: » So I don't know if they can 'reject' them a few years down the road.
markpb wrote: » Standard large value contracts (and there's no doubt that a shipment of railcars falls into this category) are subject to retentions by the client to ensure the product is good for several years. Either Irish Rail didn't put that into the contract, gave the money back too quickly or just didn't care because they thought they could get more money from the government. There's no defending this.
