Killme00 wrote: » Pls tell me more. CKD or TKD? And what foods have fat/protein but no carbs?
FunkZ wrote: » Cyclical. If I had the motication when I'm not dieting I'd stick to Targeted for life. So far to get into Ketosis I've eaten a truckload of eggs, meats, peanut butter, broccoli, onion, small amounts of soy sauce, red peppers, beansprouts, carrots, ginger, garlic, strawberrys, RASPBERRYS, whipped cream and fibre supplements! I eat small amounts of fibrous veg that have a small carb content. Starting tomorrow I'm gonna be really strict, starting to count calories now that I'm burning fat. Going for around 2300 - 2500kCals. Not gonna be pretty, only for a few weeks though!
brianthebard wrote: » What does these anagrams mean?
Killme00 wrote: » How long did it take you to get into ketosis and how do you know, are you using pee sticks or is it just the bad breath?
Mellor wrote: » I was going to look into this, ntil I seen bad breath, its it common?
Killme00 wrote: » Thanks, I started targetted today and am having trouble finding some sort of list of the right kinds of food. How long did it take you to get into ketosis and how do you know, are you using pee sticks or is it just the bad breath? Do you think its advisable to get into ketosis before starting on ckd or tkd or to just let it happen as part of the process. I was thinking a mixture of ckd for a few weeks and then move into tkd might be a better approcah for me. Good luck with it btw
Killme00 wrote: » I think its a side effect but can be easily sorted with mouthwash etc and its not permanent
FunkZ wrote: » Well I'll look for a handy list that I found a year or two ago and I'll post it for you! It took me about a week before it started saying so on the stix, I used them. But like sometimes it says you're not in Ketosis even if you are. It took me a week before they started saying anything. Here's a good article:http://www.atkinsdietbulletinboard.com/forums/atkins-low-carb-dieting-faqs/82407-article-ketostix-color.html I think you should wait two weeks though before ya have a carb up or carbs before/after lifting just to get fully into Ketosis. It'll be worth it though, I feel like I have energy all the time which is amazing then as soon as I go to bed I feel tired which is class, but... if I get up to go toilet I feel like I could run 5km easily. THE ENERGY FEELING IS SAVAGE AFTER A WEEK! The first few days will be kinda bad though, you'll have a bad stomach probably and you should get fibre supplements! EAT TONS OF PEANUT BUTTER AND DON'T COUNT CALORIES FOR THE FIRST WEEK OR TWO! I say this because you should try and get as much fats as possible to get into Ketosis and it's easiest to get used to a diet like this if you don't worry about calories for a while. Plus depsite eating as much as I could for the last ten days I'm already down 10lbs like.
CoachBoone wrote: » Funkz, Could you post up a typical days diet out of interest? I am on something similar to a CKD, except I struggle to find alternatives for bread. I usually only have one slice of bread a day with my breakfast of eggs and bacon, so Im sure its not too bad. Other than that its green veg and Chicken/Salmon/Tuna all day. I would like a bit of variety though thats why Im asking about your diet.
FunkZ wrote: » http://www.atkinsdietbulletinboard.com/forums/main-forum/ This forum has some amazing recipes, have a look around and you'll find a few useful things to substitute for bread! So far an average day has been like this for me Breakfast: Bacon omelette Lunch: Broccoli, carrots, some sort of sauce and a meat Dinner: Stirfry with pork, onion, red peppers, beansprouts, carrots, ginger, garlic, small amounts of soy sauce. Snacks: Strawberrys, raspberrys marinated in a small amount of orange juice with fresh cream whipped. And then peanut butter throughout the day. LOVELY!http://www.atkinsdietbulletinboard.com/forums/desserts/http://www.atkinsdietbulletinboard.com/forums/main-dishes/72280-pizza-cassarole-yum-addiction.html :cool:
CoachBoone wrote: » Thats great man cheers. I've been steadily dieting down for a bit now and have lost just over a stone, have another 8lb or so to go before I want to start bulking up again. Im eating: Slice Toast w/2 bacon, 2 eggs. 20g carbs. Bowl Veg Soup, Ham/Cheese Roll if feeling tired. Not sure, would say 50g Carbs though. Chicken Salad w/tomatoes. 4g Carbs max. Chicken Salad w/tomatoes. 4g Carbs max. Now see I wanted to cut out the roll at lunch, and I think Im gona replace it with Smoked Salmon stuffed with Cheese. Then I reckon Im on the right track to be getting into Ketosis? Opinions?
FunkZ wrote: » I think once you drop the roll and slice of bread you're gonna need a hell of a lot more fat to get into Ketosis. So I'd go with peanuts, fatty but good meat, a fatty dressing and cheese with your chicken salads. I don't know what ya weigh but aiming for a counted macronutrient total is a good idea. I'm going for 200 grams of protein and 150+ grams of fat with minimal carbs. Smoked samon stuffed with cheese sounds delicious!
Killme00 wrote: » both are types of ketogenic diet, cyclical and targetted.
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CoachBoone wrote: » More fat, point duly noted. Will replace the slice of bread with an omellete, and for sure the roll with Salmon stuffed with cheese. I do have cheese with my salads I should note however. I have problems understanding " a fatty dressing, fatty but good meat" etc. Are we talking pork/bacon/ham here? And can you give me an example of a fatty dressing, one thats not loaded with sugar? So you weight 200lbs? Yeah, thats what I should aim for. Remember though, Im trying to lose some more body fat so I have to watch the calories. Peanut butter is pretty dense calorie wise so maybe I should avoid it? Or else sub it for something else.
itsallaboutheL wrote: » Before and After pic Funk??
FunkZ wrote: » I think you should wait two weeks though before ya have a carb up or carbs before/after lifting just to get fully into Ketosis.
rubadub wrote: » Anagrams are the letters all mixed up to form another word these are acronyms or a TLA (three letter acronym);) I try to sound all smart but I have to admit I thought TKD was tae kwon do!http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acronym
Mellor wrote: » The only thing is, how does alcohol fit in? I'm drink at the weekends, would this prevent Ketosis setting in?
rubadub wrote: » or you could get an awol machine....http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alcohol_without_liquid
Hail 2 Da Chimp wrote: » Those AWOL machines sound mad - but I don't really see the point of trying to get drunk without the social aspect Anyone ever tried one of them?
rubadub wrote: » I know hospital technicians who used medical nebulisers to inhale brandy before hitting the pub on a friday. A nebuliser is the same idea as a AWOL machine, it produces a mist of a liquid drug for asthmatics or to introduce water vapour to patients getting oxygen.
Hail 2 Da Chimp wrote: » I'm sure your doctor would love to hear about it