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Polish people

niko2485

Maybe it's a little wierd but what do you think about the polish (foreign)people in Ireland? I am polish myself and sometimes I can hear that we are not really welcome here. Why do "we" have such a bad opinion here?Do you really think the polish people are taking away the irish jobs?

Sorry for my mistakes:)

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procure11

niko2485 wrote: »

I know why the men treated me this way but after a while I can see sometimes you can't understand each other as well. I know a little of english (my gramma is bad ) but it is happen really often that my sentences are correct and people can't understand my acent. i can't do anything about this.

In my opinion the (older)polish people wouldn't accept so many foreigns in their own country but that will change soon cause there is so many young people abroad and they understand what does it mean to be "different" .

I think you write great english for someone that consistently apologises for their bad grammar.
I understand the fact that the older folks would be set in their ways and less receptive of immigrants... I would say it is the same across the board.Like most people have said ...you are most welcome here...Just dont bring too much fags with you

Larianne

niko2485 wrote: »

In my opinion the (older)polish people wouldn't accept so many foreigns in their own country but that will change soon cause there is so many young people abroad and they understand what does it mean to be "different" .

I work taking care of elderly people and a lot of them have certain opinions of foreign staff. I guess it's a case of fear of the unknown. They aren't used to people from Africa or The Philippines etc. Someone looks different or has a funny accent, they'll be reserved about them, won't want them near them. So in that case, you get it everywhere.

There's that and well sometimes neither person can understand each other. :rolleyes: I am the translator.

Four-Percent

donkey balls wrote: »

most of these guys have little or no english(there here the last 5 years)but when there is something wrong with there wages there english gets better.

Got a problem with their English have you?Oh, the irony.

donkey balls wrote: »

let me explain they have run the industry into the ground by working for just above the min wage for driving 40ft trucks .

gaeilgegrinds

Their English or there English? Hmm... I teach Higher level Irish to many Polish, have heard few complaints about their English to be honest, some of our own could learn a lot from them.

stovelid

We Irish, on the other hand, are always diligent and fearless in our use of new languages when abroad.

donkey balls

Fair play to them. Would you drive a 40ft truck around all day for just above minimum wage?

Basically your problem is that you worked with Polish lads who were bad drivers, in the transport industry.Sounds like your recruiters could have done a better job really.

no i would not drive a 40ft around all day for just above the min wage as for the recruiters within the company what can i say complete bunch of morans/greedy company owners employing cheap labour,

swings&round abouts these companies are paying hirer insurance premiums with the amount of accidents there having

Wolfsberg

I wasn't so sure about the Polish people myself at one time.

But a few weeks ago I was dragged up to a party in the apartment of a former colleage of my girlfriend. There was the two of us (Irish), my girlfriend's colleage and his girlfriend (Polish) and 3 other Polish couples. I was never made to feel more welcome before, especially in a situation where I expected to feel a little out of place! As soon as we arrived they all went from conversing in Polish to speaking in English, even when chatting amongst themselves. They were so friendly to us and looked after us very well. Eventhough it was just a casual gathering we were treated to lots of lovely Polish food. It felt as if a special effort was made by everyone there to include us and make us welcome as we were the minority. I doubt it would have been like that if we were a Polish couple going to a party of Irish people in Poland! I was very surprised that I enjoyed the night so much.

Thumbs up to the Polish and their hospitality that the Irish haven't had for years!!!

Dr_Phil

NBB Bohs wrote: »

a polish guy i know always thinks the weather is alright here and always says its crap back home, but maby he lives in an even wetter part of poland than dublin

Yep, I am Polish myself and totally agree. I still remember months of pissing rain. Here in Ireland you have approximately 50% of chance that in the evening the weather changes 180 degrees from what it was in the morning. If I see an ovecast in Poland I know I am looking at a week of rain (at least).

So don't complain, yous are lucky enough to have 4 seasons a day

Hard to get bored!

PS: I love the Irish, great people, great friends and despite some opinions their wimmins are gorgeous and hot like hell :P

bronte

Worked with a wicked polish lass a few years ago. She was a pet.

spurious

In the three weeks I was in Krakow, it rained only at night. What a civilised way to do it.

Of course it was too bloody hot for pasty Irish faces during the day (generally somewhere between 26 and 36 degrees). I was scalded and got a big red neck.

marko91

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donkey balls wrote: »

Fair play to them. Would you drive a 40ft truck around all day for just above minimum wage?

Basically your problem is that you worked with Polish lads who were bad drivers, in the transport industry.Sounds like your recruiters could have done a better job really.

no i would not drive a 40ft around all day for just above the min wage as for the recruiters within the company what can i say complete bunch of morans/greedy company owners employing cheap labour,

swings&round abouts these companies are paying hirer insurance premiums with the amount of accidents there having

Ok buddy... but this then undercuts the market for the ordinary ''Joesoap'' who is trying to make ends meet bringing a wage pack home to his wife & 5 kids. So no need for the fair play high five here. Someone has come over here and earned probably double their national minimum wage but is seen as a hero for being a good worker while they send most of it home. Something wrong there?

Problem is, people blame the foreigners etc for this but it is the system. Most people would take advantage of it too if they had the chance. Did no one read the social welfare scandals were they had to stop it being paid to bank accounts because foreign nationals were claiming the dole when they had moved back home and got a flight over to collect it once a month? It is still going on but they are getting friends/family etc to collect it while they sign on once a month.

To the OP, it is not a generalisation of Polish people to be honest. It's more Eastern European & other foreigners that people are very bitter about including my dad. It is impossible to debate the point with him due to how his job has gone in the construction sector since the recession. People need someone to blame so they turn to the people that are easiest to blame. No it is not your fault or any foreign national. It is the administration of this stupid fúcking country that is wrong from the grass roots up.

Although the amount of posts dictating every foreigner as angels in this thread is fúcking laughable.

donkey balls

Deleted User wrote: »

Ok buddy... but this then undercuts the market for the ordinary ''Joesoap'' who is trying to make ends meet bringing a wage pack home to his wife & 5 kids. So no need for the fair play high five here. Someone has come over here and earned probably double their national minimum wage but is seen as a hero for being a good worker while they send most of it home. Something wrong there?

Problem is, people blame the foreigners etc for this but it is the system. Most people would take advantage of it too if they had the chance. Did no one read the social welfare scandals were they had to stop it being paid to bank accounts because foreign nationals were claiming the dole when they had moved back home and got a flight over to collect it once a month? It is still going on but they are getting friends/family etc to collect it while they sign on once a month.

To the OP, it is not a generalisation of Polish people to be honest. It's more Eastern European & other foreigners that people are very bitter about including my dad. It is impossible to debate the point with him due to how his job has gone in the construction sector since the recession. People need someone to blame so they turn to the people that are easiest to blame. No it is not your fault or any foreign national. It is the administration of this stupid fúcking country that is wrong from the grass roots up.

Although the amount of posts dictating every foreigner as angels in this thread is fúcking laughable.

kag check my post 66 and then checkout post 69 i was quoteing the other poster

[Deleted User]

donkey balls wrote: »

kag check my post 66 and then checkout post 69 i was quoteing the other poster

lol

Well do it properly then, few pints in!

Point still stands though.

Depp

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pHihFA8q8xI

genericguy

ejmaztec wrote: »

No problem with any foreigners, but then again I wasn't born here either.:pac:

fcuk off home so.

just kidding, i find you informative and witty, like ted koppel.

[Deleted User]

Depp wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pHihFA8q8xI

I cannot stop laughing.

Wolfsberg

Deleted User wrote: »

Ok buddy... but this then undercuts the market for the ordinary ''Joesoap'' who is trying to make ends meet bringing a wage pack home to his wife & 5 kids. So no need for the fair play high five here. Someone has come over here and earned probably double their national minimum wage but is seen as a hero for being a good worker while they send most of it home. Something wrong there?

Problem is, people blame the foreigners etc for this but it is the system. Most people would take advantage of it too if they had the chance. Did no one read the social welfare scandals were they had to stop it being paid to bank accounts because foreign nationals were claiming the dole when they had moved back home and got a flight over to collect it once a month? It is still going on but they are getting friends/family etc to collect it while they sign on once a month.

To the OP, it is not a generalisation of Polish people to be honest. It's more Eastern European & other foreigners that people are very bitter about including my dad. It is impossible to debate the point with him due to how his job has gone in the construction sector since the recession. People need someone to blame so they turn to the people that are easiest to blame. No it is not your fault or any foreign national. It is the administration of this stupid fúcking country that is wrong from the grass roots up.

Although the amount of posts dictating every foreigner as angels in this thread is fúcking laughable.

Did your Dad give you all of those opinions or did you form any of those little nuggets yourself?

MmmmmCheese

I worked with 5 other Polish girls before and while they were really nice individually they were also very cliquey (sp?). On their own they were very friendly but when there was more than one of them around they would start talking in Polish and you would be left standing there like a spare part. It felt like they really had each others backs which is understandable as they are trying to get by in a foreign country, but at the same time was a little unsettling. If anything went wrong they were sure to stick up for each other. They would also play the 'immigrant sympathy card' when something went wrong, and if they were reprimanded for doing something wrong they would always claim it was on racist grounds. I also agree with whoever was talking about the introduction of Polish shop/barbers etc. Its almost like they're trying to create a new Poland rather than integrate themselves into Irish society.

googlefan

I think one problem is that we are open to recieving people who perhaps have commited serious crimes in their own country. Some of Poland's gang problems, particularly the Nazi element that goes with football hooliganism, are a bit worrying from an Irish perspective. With your military training and generally huge build's I think most Irish lads are half afraid!

Overall though the Polish aren't too different to the Irish 100 years ago. Catholic, hard working and enjoy their alcohol.

We should implement a law that for every female Polish immigrant, one Irishwoman must go to Poland...

donkey balls

googlefan wrote: »

I think one problem is that we are open to recieving people who perhaps have commited serious crimes in their own country. Some of Poland's gang problems, particularly the Nazi element that goes with football hooliganism, are a bit worrying from an Irish perspective. With your military training and generally huge build's I think most Irish lads are half afraid!

Overall though the Polish aren't too different to the Irish 100 years ago. Catholic, hard working and enjoy their alcohol.

We should implement a law that for every female Polish immigrant, one Irishwoman must go to Poland...

afraid of someone who has been in the army wtf

MmmmmCheese

NBB Bohs wrote: »

Yet we pride ourselves on the Irish emmigrant communities around the world who do the same thing???? Or is it different because sure aren't we Irish?

also is there a difference between polish shops in ireland and british shops in ireland?

how does opening up a polish shop which sells food that a polish person might happen to like have in any way an impact on you or anyone else? you'd have to have somethin odd about ya to be insecure about that.

No i'm quite secure. And you're oddly defensive.
Its just that they're springing up all over the place, there's no need for that many. There's a huge amount of Chinese in Ireland too, particularly in Dublin and you don't see nearly as many Chinese speciality shops around the place. There are some of course, but not that many.

kumate_champ07

Deleted User wrote: »

I cannot stop laughing.

I cant believe its actually a real film, I thought it was a youtube pisstake mashup trailer

Wolfsberg

MmmmmCheese wrote: »

There's a huge amount of Chinese in Ireland too, particularly in Dublin and you don't see nearly as many Chinese speciality shops around the place. There are some of course, but not that many.

Been in Parnell/ Moore/ Mary/ Capel street much in the last 5 years?! :eek:

googlefan

donkey balls wrote: »

afraid of someone who has been in the army wtf

To be honest, on a night out I'll be fairly wary about somebody who is massive, had a lot of vodka and has specialised military training. I worked with a lad who matched that description. Nice fella, but he destroyed a few lads on nights out.

MmmmmCheese

Wolfsberg wrote: »

Been in Parnell/ Moore/ Mary/ Capel street much in the last 5 years?! :eek:

The vast majority are in Moore street. Wheras Polish shops are all over the place

Neamhshuntasach

Are Polish people still around? I been out of the country for the past 16 months and since i got back a week ago i've noticed a huge decrease. Especially in suburban areas. It's not just Polish. A lot of immigrants in my mothers area, my brothers, mine and friends don't seem to be there anymore. But when in the center of Dublin i couldn't hear one Irish accent on the street. Are they all moving into city centers or something?

firesidechat

I work in the drywall business,
Have 5 employees .
3 irish .
2 polish.
All workers got paid the going cif rates,and pension fund was paid into
for all employees.
A legitamit compony.

Tendered a job last week in limerick, Small extension to school,
Walls and ceilings had to be slabbed and skimmed.
Two years ago i would have charged about 3,500 for that job.
With the present economy just to keep my crew busy for another week
i came in at 2,100 for the job.
Contractor got a better price ,A few polish lads who are not regestered for paye or vat came in at 1.200.

problem lies with the greedy contractor who will hire them to save a few euros, Where does that leave the small sub contractor who is trying to do the right thing,all employees on paye,all cif pension contributions paid.

The small business cannot compete with the likes of this.

Now saying that ,their women are beautifull,
The two polish men working for me are great workers and i would consider them friends.
Our families have socialised together on many occasions.
But they have seen what is happening and are fearful for the future of their jobs, Due to the actions of a few cowboys.There are no reasons they cannot work legitamet and we would all sing from the same hymne sheet..Regulated competition in any business is healthy.

paye or vat

kumate_champ07

googlefan wrote: »

Overall though the Polish aren't too different to the Irish 100 years ago. Catholic, hard working and enjoy their alcohol.

I didnt realise Poland was an oppressed country under British rule

herya

MmmmmCheese wrote: »

The vast majority are in Moore street. Wheras Polish shops are all over the place

So a ghetto is fine as long as they don't spread?

Just messin.

Actually many Polish etc shops are closing now, there were indeed too many and some of them were awful pokey holes selling some utter shite I would never even look at back in Poland. I won't miss them at all. I guess there were trying to play on insecurities of new immigrants but hey they started shopping in Tesco or Dunnes like everyone else.