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200kms of road reclassified motorway except Athlone bypass

darkman2

SECTIONS OF NATIONAL ROADS AND PROPOSED ROAD
DEVELOPMENTS DECLARED AS MOTORWAYS UNDER THIS
ORDER

Reference in this Schedule to—
N followed by a number is a reference to a national road
R followed by a number is a reference to a regional road

N2 — Killshane to Ashbourne
The section of the N2 between the grade separated junction known as Cherryhound
in the townland of Killshane in the county of Fingal and its junction with
the R135 in the townland of Rath in the county of Meath, via the townlands of
Cherryhound and Ward Lower in the county of Fingal and Irishtown, Newtown
Commons, Wotton, Fleenstown Little, Baltrasna, Harlockstown and Cookstown
in the county of Meath.

N3 — Littlepace to Loughsallagh
The section of the N3 from its junction with the R156 at Littlepace in the
county of Fingal to Loughsallagh in the county of Meath, via the townland of
Damastown in the county of Fingal and Clonee in the county of Meath.

N3 — Loughsallagh to Pace
The section of the proposed N3 between its junction with the existing N3 at
Loughsallagh in the county of Meath and its junction with the proposed M3 at
Pace, via the townlands of Bracetown and Dunboyne in the county of Meath,
and also the proposed north bound on-ramp at the Clonee interchange.

N4 — Kinnegad to McNead’s Bridge
The section of the N4 between the grade separated junction known as
Kinnegad West in the town land of Kinnegad and the grade separated junction
at McNead’s Bridge in the townland of Heathstown, via the townlands of Griffithstown
and Correllstown, all in the county of Westmeath.

N6 — Athlone to Ballinasloe (also known as the N6 Ballinasloe to Athlone
Dual Carriageway Scheme)The section of the proposed N6 between its junction with the R362 at Monksland
and its junction with the proposed R357 at Ardcarn via the townlands
of Mihanboy, Taduff West, Ardkeenan, Loghlackagh, Rathpeak, Kilbegly, and
Sralea, all in the county of Roscommon.

N6 — Galway to Ballinasloe (also known as the N6 Galway to East Ballinasloe
Dual Carriageway).The section of the proposed N6 between its junction with the proposed R357
at Ardcarn in the county of Roscommon and its junction with the existing N18
at Glennascaul in the county of Galway, via the townland of Tulrush in the
county of Roscommon and Poolboy, Mackney, Coololla, Cloghagalla Eighter,
Ballynaclogh, Turksland, Brackloon, Cross, Killescragh, Carrowkeel, Greyford,
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Deerpark, Newford, Rathmorrissey and Lisheenkyle East in the county of
Galway.

N7 — Limerick Southern Ring Road, Phase 1
The section of the N7 between its junction with the R503 at Mountshannon
to a point on the existing N7 at the R511 overbridge in Rathbane South, via the
townlands of Woodstown, Ballysimon and Inchmore, all in the county of
Limerick.

N7 — Proposed N7/N20 Rossbrien Interchange (part of the Limerick Southern
Ring Road Phase 2 road scheme)
The parts of the proposed Rossbrien Interchange comprising of the N7 and
N20 interchange loops in the townlands of Rossbrien and Rathbane South in
the county of Limerick.

N8 — Watergrasshill to Glanmire
The section of the N8 between its junction with the M8 at Mitchelsfort and
its junction with the R639 at Killydonoghue, via the townlands of Transtown
and Killalough, all in the county of Cork.

N8 — Glanmire Bypass
The section of the N8 between its junction with the R639 at Killydonoghue
to a point 400m north of the N25 Junction at Dunkettle, via the townlands of
Riverstown and Ballinglanna, all in the county of Cork.

N9 — Waterford to Powerstown (also known as the N9/N10 Killcullen to
Waterford Scheme)
The section of the proposed N9 between its junction with the existing N9 at
Cloghristick in the county of Carlow and its junction with the N25 at Granny in
the county of Kilkenny via Seskin Lower, Moanduff and Moanmore in the
county of Carlow; Shankill, Jordanstown, Ballyquirk, Rathcash West, Clifden,
Kilree, Danesfort, Stonecarthy West, Knocktopher Commons, Kilkeasy, Garrandarragh,
Ballykeoghan and Dunkitt in the county of Kilkenny.

N11 — Ashford to Rathnew
The section of the N11 between its junction with the R772 at Kilmartin and
its junction with the R772 at Ballynabarney, via the townlands of Rathmore,
Mountusher, Rossanna Lower and Ballybeg, all in the county of Wicklow.

N11 — Arklow Bypass
The section of the N11 between its junction with the R772 at Templerainey
and its junction with the R772 at Cooladangan, via the townlands of Kilbride,
Ballyraine Middle, Ballyraine Upper and Kish, all in the county of Wicklow.

N11 — Arklow to Gorey (also known as the N11 Gorey to Arklow Link)
The section of the N11 between its junction with the R772 at Cooladangan in
the county of Wicklow and its junction with the R772 at Ballinclay in the county
of Wexford, via the townlands of Ashwood Upper, Ballyellin, Inch, Tinnock
Lower, Toberduff, Courteencurragh, Raheenagurren West, Coolnastudd and
Clogh, in the county of Wexford.
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N18 — Shannon to Ennis (known as Ballycasey to Dromoland)
The section of the N18 between its junction with the N19 at Ballycasey Beg
and its junction with the R458 at Latoon South, via the townlands of Killulla,
Knocksaggart and Ballyconneely, all in the county of Clare.

N18 — Ennis Bypass (also known as N18 Dromoland to Crusheen)
The section of the N18 between its junction with the R458 at Latoon South
and its junction with the existing N18 as Carrowdotia, via the townlands of
Manusmore, Killow, Knockanean and Drumquin, all in the county of Clare.

N18 — Gort to Crusheen
The section of the proposed N18 between its junction with the existing N18
at Carrowdotia and its junction with the existing N18 at Glenbrack in the county
of Galway via the townlands of Bearnafunshin, Caheraphuca, Derrygarriff and
Monreagh in the county of Clare, and Gortavoher, Curtaun, Ballyboy, Ballybaun
and Drumminacloghaun in the county of Galway.

N18 — Oranmore to Gort
The section of the proposed N18 between its junction with the existing N18
at Glenbrack and its junction with the proposed N6 at Rathmorrissey, via the
townlands of Coole Demesne, Ballymaquiff North, Ballyglass West, Cloghboley,
Kiltiernan East, Roevehagh, Moyveela and Gortroe, all in the county of Galway.

N20 — Limerick to Attyflin (also known as the N20/N21 Junction)
The section of the N20 from a point 660m south of the existing N7/N20 junction
at Rossbrien to its junction with the N21 at Ballybronoge South, via the
townlands of Dooradoyle, Rootiagh, Barnakyle and Attyflin, all in the county
of Limerick.

GIVEN under my Official Seal,
2 July 2009

New thread for Blunt Guy.

All except N6 Athlone DC will be changed on August 28th. From then blue signs will be up and the usual Motorway rules apply i.e no L plates, tractors etc etc.

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1huge1

sonyair wrote: »

Is the limerick bypass included as it was to be

As far as I can tell the complete southern ring road is included. I thought this wasnt gonna happen until the opening of the Limerick Tunnel.

I was going to note how they haven't included the dual carriageway from Limerick to Shannon but I suppose it is one of the countries first and might not be up to it. Then again was I right in reading the dualcarriageway heading down to the dunkettle roundabout it going to be changed to motorway and that is comparable to the limerick--shannon dual carriageway.

sonyair

oh great thanks, can't wait for the 2nd phase of the ring road to open

nordydan

1huge1 wrote: »

As far as I can tell the complete southern ring road is included. I thought this wasnt gonna happen until the opening of the Limerick Tunnel.

I was going to note how they haven't included the dual carriageway from Limerick to Shannon but I suppose it is one of the countries first and might not be up to it. Then again was I right in reading the dualcarriageway heading down to the dunkettle roundabout it going to be changed to motorway and that is comparable to the limerick--shannon dual carriageway.

I don't think it is included, I think the M7 will stop at the N20 interchange then continue as N7

D.L.R.

Colm R wrote: »

And to answer my own question, I just checked the NRA website.

The M9 will come a lot closer to Kilkenny than the N9, and the remaining 6.5km will be high quality single carriageway. So no, it will be N10.

Colm, it has nothing to do with how many lanes the road has. The fact that the new N10 leads inescapably to the M9 motorway means that motorway restrictions are legally required. That is unless they've modified the design since.

KevR

1huge1 wrote: »

I was going to note how they haven't included the dual carriageway from Limerick to Shannon but I suppose it is one of the countries first and might not be up to it. Then again was I right in reading the dualcarriageway heading down to the dunkettle roundabout it going to be changed to motorway and that is comparable to the limerick--shannon dual carriageway.

Been a while since I last drove it but doesn't the Limerick-Shannon Dual Carriageway have gaps in the median? That would be a big no-no for a motorway.

munchkin_utd

KevR wrote: »

Been a while since I last drove it but doesn't the Limerick-Shannon Dual Carriageway have gaps in the median? That would be a big no-no for a motorway.

you are right that theres (feckin dangerous) gaps to crossover in the entre of the road,
But thats why the classification begins at the junction of the shannon road N19 with the N18 and only north of this is to be Motorway.

The Word Is Bor

There are a large number of direct accesses onto the N18 between The Two Mile Inn and N19 juntion.

Tech3

nordydan wrote: »

I don't think it is included, I think the M7 will stop at the N20 interchange then continue as N7

Correct the N7 tunnel phase 2 wasnt included in the second tranche of redesignations but phase 1 was.

Anyway its about time the redesignations have been done. I'm very dissapointed about the Athlone bypass. It really should have been M6 with restricted limit of 100km/hr.

On the bright side we have the dc on the N18 reclassified as the M18. It will stretch from Gort-Shannon by the end of next year.

you are right that theres (feckin dangerous) gaps to crossover in the entre of the road,

You will also see huge depressions on the road surface and the closer you come into Limerick you will spot some of the hard shoulder replaced by a footpath for the houses along the dual carriageway southbound lane. And I havnt even mentioned the junctions are awful.

Zoney

KevR wrote: »

Been a while since I last drove it but doesn't the Limerick-Shannon Dual Carriageway have gaps in the median? That would be a big no-no for a motorway.

I think you may be thinking of the old hurler's Cross junction (before the GSJ) and old Shannon junction.

There is only one median gap as such remaining on the N18, at the Radisson hotel on the way into Limerick (the other U-turn on the way into Limerick replaced by a roundabout for Coonagh Cross Tesco). In any case that stretch of DC is a moot point due to the new N7 bypass ending at a point just outside the Radisson crossover (which I think is also to be Rbout once the bypass is done). It's entirely possible the N18 will be reclassified as R road from the N7 bypass junction into town.

The N18 has *no* median crossings any longer between Radisson/new N7 junction, and the end of the DC north of Ennis.

As such, median crossings is not a valid reason. The main valid reason for N18 not being motorway between N7 junction and at least Bunratty is that there are some private accesses (i.e. even some driveways) for all the fact that the median is unbroken. Another fairly major reason is the lack of straightforward alternative route to Bunratty from either Shannon or Limerick directions.

darkman2

There is going to be a discussion on this after 5pm on The Last Word on Today FM, just heard on radio.

Tech3

darkman2 wrote: »

There is going to be a discussion on this after 5pm on The Last Word on Today FM, just heard on radio.

can you listen to that on the web?

darkman2

Here

http://www.todayfm.com/LivePlayer.aspx

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Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

What a waste of money in replacing all those green road signs.

Have you seen the state of the signs on the Athlone bypass! they're completely worn out! If the Athlone relief road is still up for discussion, then we'll have to wait a bit longer for them to be replaced.

Chris_533976

The N18 from Shannon to Limerick (East of Bunratty anyway) is nowhere near motorway standard. The curves for a start make the Athlone bypass look like an Autobahn. Also there are still quite a few unsuitable junctions and a lot of houses fronting onto it. It would require a complete rebuild.

invincibleirish

Why are sections of the N25, already at 120km/hr, not being reclassified whilst sections of the N2 & N20 are?

nordydan

Chris_533976 wrote: »

The N18 from Shannon to Limerick (East of Bunratty anyway) is nowhere near motorway standard. The curves for a start make the Athlone bypass look like an Autobahn. Also there are still quite a few unsuitable junctions and a lot of houses fronting onto it. It would require a complete rebuild.

With a full GSJ at hurlers cross, and closing the access road between here and the N19 junction, they could extend the motorway east by about a mile. The rest looks more difficult.

Edit, slightly further east to the R471 looks doable as well, if a westbound onslip was added and the internediate junction closed.

JayeL

Just passed the Coldwinters exit on the N2 and saw traffic maintenance lorry, erecting those poles that look like scaffolding.

They also have much taller poles right behind the sign for exit 2, ready for the new blue version. The NRA work fast when they want to!

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JayeL wrote: »

Just passed the Coldwinters exit on the N2 and saw traffic maintenance lorry, erecting those poles that look like scaffolding.

They also have much taller poles right behind the sign for exit 2, ready for the new blue version. The NRA work fast when they want to!

From posts I've seen elsewhere on this forum, they were planning to upgrade signage on most of these roads anyway, just waiting to find out what colour.

L1011

Chris_533976 wrote: »

The N18 from Shannon to Limerick (East of Bunratty anyway) is nowhere near motorway standard. The curves for a start make the Athlone bypass look like an Autobahn. Also there are still quite a few unsuitable junctions and a lot of houses fronting onto it. It would require a complete rebuild.

The curves aren't the worst part, the deceptive surface - looks smooth but undulates like a poor rollercoaster - is.

Irish and Proud

Bards wrote: »

and so it begins http://www.kilkennycoco.ie/resources/eng/Services/Planning/Planning_Lists/Week%2026%202009%20Applications%20Received.pdf

Planning Application for site development works associated with servicing
future 'retail park' development sites within the 3.0 hectares sites at Newrath, Co. Kilkenny.

The development will consist of the following: Ecological enhancement and landscaping proposals covering an area of c. 8560m2 to include the restoration of the existing drainage channel, wetland and wet woodland habitat on the eastern site boundary;

restoration of the wetland habitat along the northern and western site boundary; landscaping of a strip of land on the southern portion of the site; landscaping on all site boundaries to provide screening;

construction of a new vehicular access onto the N9 which was recently been downgraded to a Local Access Road;

culverting of the drainage channel beneath the access point; construction of a 7.3m wide internal access road to serve future development plots within the site consistent with the zoning objectives of the site or any planning permission granted; erection of 2.4m high security fencing; and installation of public lighting, electrical and drainageworks.

The proposed works includes for both the regarding and retention of fill deposited within the site over an area of c.26993m2 before 2001. An appropriate expert environmental assessment is contained in an Environmental Report which accompanies this application.

Newrath Co. Kilkenny

Blatant evidence it seems! :mad:

There should be a public campaign to get the Waterford Bypass reclassified now - developers and speculators have had their time! :mad:

Regards!

BluntGuy

Nope, the Waterford Bypass stands almost no chance of being redesignated now, the NRA don't have the balls.

By the way, it must be made clear that no definitive decision has been made on the Athlone Bypass. I bet it will still ultimately get through. Just a pity it has had to be delayed because of useless, unnecesary, selfish whinging. Those people need to realise that the Athlone Bypass is now part of the M6 national route whether or not the signage says so now or not. It is NOT the place for people to drag their tractors around, if they have to go through the town to keep the road safer for the majority of road users, so be it.

Bards

BluntGuy wrote: »

Nope, the Waterford Bypass stands almost no chance of being redesignated now, the NRA don't have the balls.

By the way, it must be made clear that no definitive decision has been made on the Athlone Bypass. I bet it will still ultimately get through. Just a pity it has had to be delayed because of useless, unnecesary, selfish whinging. Those people need to realise that the Athlone Bypass is now part of the M6 national route whether or not the signage says so now or not. It is NOT the place for people to drag their tractors around, if they have to go through the town to keep the road safer for the majority of road users, so be it.

Made me laugh to hear the guy from the NRA on newstalk this evening. I'll paraphrase "One of the main reasons we are re-classifying HQDC's is to stop inappropiate development happening along the route and safeguard the investment"

so what is their statement as to why the the N25 (Waterford City Bypass) won't be included - it's not long enough!!!!

anyone care to guess how many retail/business parks will be tacked onto it?

alpha2zulu

Blatant evidence it seems!

There should be a public campaign to get the Waterford Bypass reclassified now - developers and speculators have had their time!

That site in question is about a mile from the N25 mainline so even if the M25 did materalise ,this proposed development would probably be unaffected from what I can see anyway. Basically its the bog between the old Auto Boland car showrooms on the now closed section of N9 and the rail line, so on balance if it creates jobs it's probably not a bad thing in my opinion.

BluntGuy

Bards wrote: »

anyone care to guess how many retail/business parks will be tacked onto it?

Have you seen in the Grannagh interchange?

A developer's wet dream. A badly designed junction that is just perfect for capturing all Dublin-Waterford, Cork-Waterford traffic and funelling them into a sprawling retail park.

The Celtic Tiger may be over, but the mindset still remains...

I'm not looking forward to seeing how the Waterford Bypass is ruined by development.

mysterious

BluntGuy wrote: »

Nope, the Waterford Bypass stands almost no chance of being redesignated now, the NRA don't have the balls.

By the way, it must be made clear that no definitive decision has been made on the Athlone Bypass. I bet it will still ultimately get through. Just a pity it has had to be delayed because of useless, unnecesary, selfish whinging. Those people need to realise that the Athlone Bypass is now part of the M6 national route whether or not the signage says so now or not. It is NOT the place for people to drag their tractors around, if they have to go through the town to keep the road safer for the majority of road users, so be it.

The road through the town isn't suitable as an alternative route.

You have 2/3 of the bypass local traffic

Let's be real here.

The only concern is pedestrians and cyclists. It can get special status, to ban cyclists off the road.

It does not have the appropriate measure to be a motorway. There is no justification putting alternative traffic on a congested town centre route. The bypass is the only arterial route for the town. Putting more traffic onto the medieval bridge is not sustainable.

Steviemak

mysterious wrote: »

Let's be real here.

The only concern is pedestrians and cyclists.

Judging by your form I'm assuming that comment is not a joke. Its all about developers for me. We do not need anymore development along that route that brings slow moving local unnecessary traffic onto the road. Have you driven the south link in cork lately? The road has been destroyed by inappropriate development that no motorway would allow.

You are the same person who wants a future proofed road network:eek:

Confused and not going to get into a debate as its been flogged to death.

mysterious

The Athlone bypass is surrounded by development on both sides the whole way. There is little land to develop only off the exists which are all urbanised anyway.

Putting blue signs here does not future proof this road.

The road is ito ndequate for motorway status and the alternative is not good enough. END OF STORY.

it is is seved by over 20,000 vehicles that avoid the town. The last thing we want is to put extra traffic on the towns streets.

The other 10,000 N6 cars can put up with local traffic as they have done for 20 years. And any pedestrian walking on the bypass. Read this, you deserve to be killed if you walk on this dual carriageway. You will get this message.

Ban cyclists and pedestrians, and enough of this bull****. I want my blue signs its looks sexy.

Colm R

The start of the N2 dual carriageway north of Ashbourne had M2 confirmation signs up this morning. No other signs up yet.

noelfirl

mysterious wrote: »

I want my blue signs its looks sexy.

I'd say one of the number of reasons so few people take you seriously on this site is because you continually harp on as if people have some sort of fetish for blue signs and lines, when the reality is you are the only one continually bringing the colour of the designation into the argument.

Most people are arguing based on their respective opinions on safety, efficiency and restraining development. Kindly cut out your bollocking on as if everyone elses opinion is "blue-motivated".

KevR

mysterious wrote: »

The Athlone bypass is surrounded by development on both sides the whole way. There is little land to develop only off the exists which are all urbanised anyway.

Putting blue signs here does not future proof this road.

The road is ito ndequate for motorway status and the alternative is not good enough. END OF STORY.

it is is seved by over 20,000 vehicles that avoid the town. The last thing we want is to put extra traffic on the towns streets.

The other 10,000 N6 cars can put up with local traffic as they have done for 20 years. And any pedestrian walking on the bypass. Read this, you deserve to be killed if you walk on this dual carriageway. You will get this message.

Ban cyclists and pedestrians, and enough of this bull****. I want my blue signs its looks sexy.

So what if 20,000 vehicles are local traffic and 10,000 are long distance. 99% of those 20,000 vehicles will still be eligable to use the bypass if it changes to motorway. A very small amount of vehicles (which shouldn't be on the bypass at all) will have to use the town - no big deal.

Putting extra traffic on the towns streets is not something we want obviously but I would put pedestrians/cyclists getting killed or a tractor causing a pile up as things I would like to happen less than a few extra vehicles in the town.