https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2025/jun/13/israel-iran-strikes-defence-minister-tehran-middle-east-live
Reports stating that Israel have launched an attack against Iran
Admirable posts but you're wasting your time with bad faith posters. Fingers in their ears.
ceasefires hang in balance as trump calls for israel not to respond to irans missile attack
Tehran "must burn", says Israel's far-right National Security Minister Itamar Ben-Gvir, following Iran's newest strikes targeting northern Israel.
"Tonight Tehran must burn!" he says in a short post written in Hebrew on X.
Seemingly this wasn't in Trump's script. A deal was (as usual) 'days away', now it might take 47 years, or 3000:-
Trump: I'm calling Netanyahu 'right now... to tell him not to retaliate' for Iran's missile attacks | The Times of Israel
Trump says he was 'not happy' about Israel's Beirut strikes, says Iran deal was days away | The Times of Israel
If someone framed criticism of Iran as a "pile on" ;"irrational hatred" ;"Iran haters", I wonder would posters criticising Iran reconsider their views, or would they simply see such posts as a rather feeble attempt to defend Iran.
The way things are going in Lebanon, somebody should give Bibi a golden FPV drone.
ceasefires hang in balance
Not sure about this. As long as Trump doesn't jump in on Israel's side I think this'll peter out after a bit of tit for tat…
Trump is appearing weaker and weaker the longer this daft war goes on. He has successfully strengthened the Iranian regime which was certainly teetering earlier this year. I wish the stupid Americans hadn't listened to Netanyahu - the Iranian regime could well have toppled over the summer with people power. Instead the proud Iranian people have rallied around their flag after the Americans/Israel bombed them during negotiations for the 2nd time in a year.
His added problem is that Netanyahu is even more desperate than he is himself. Whatever happens in the midterms, Trump is in power for another 2.5 years, but Bibi is potentially gone in October, and back facing jail.
I'm not so sure about Iranians rallying around the flag. They'll bide their time. It isn't now.
Correction: "retaliation" for when Israel targeted Hezbollah in Lebanon after Hezbollah yet again attacked Israel - as it has done with impunity for years BTW.
IDF strikes Beirut's Dahiyeh after Hezbollah fires rockets at northern Israel | The Times of Israel
Let's be clear on what the actual facts are.
Using your idea of justified retaliation, what right did Israel have to attack Iran and assassinate its head of state on February 26th? What were they responding to and retaliating for?
There were 36 Israelis under 18 killed on October 7th. Perhaps all by the IDF? We'll probably never know.
Israel have killed maybe 200,000 civilians since then. Imagine what Israel would have done if Hamas had blown up a school like they did in Iran.
Merely being armed or not agreeing with Israel is enough reason for them to execute whoever they want (aka retaliation). Israel now has a different rule book where rape, theft, imprisonment, torture and murder of non jew Arabs is perfectly acceptable.
Because (under the Ayatollah's regime) Iran has been waging a proxy war against Israel with the intention to destroy it?
Or how about Iran enriching huge amounts of nuclear material to a high level and lying about it?
Why would Israel attack Iran for no reason?
Given that Iran confirmed their alliance with Hezbollah over the last few days, that provides a justified retaliation excuse to Israel, also knocks a big hole in all of the legal cases against Israel, as a State actor has admitted being behind a terrorist group attacking Israel.
Are these the ones that damaged an army base? If so, I am not sure what the problem is, that goes well beyond ordinary criminal damage.
The regime started the war against Iran in February (having also attacked it in July 2025) but is claiming it is merely acting in self defence? An estimated 3500 Iranians were killed during the attack on the country earlier this year, including 1700 civilians.
Uk calls for restraint from both sides after discussions with iran
meanwhile israel closes gaza crossings in response to irans missile attack
we will have to see how persuasive trump has been to stop israeli response to iranian aggression
The Israel Lobby remains highly influential in America despite its waning popularity with the public. So far Trump has tried to signal his independence from Bibi by talking about how unhappy he is with some of the decisions made but Biden tried that too and nothing changed on the policy side. Voters will be watching more carefully for action this time.
Iran have said from the start of talks, a ceasefire applies to all fronts, if the Zionist regime attacks Beirut they will get hit back, same with Gaza also. That's how it is now, if Israel wants to go it alone, they can go it alone, up to them. They can even try invading them or something if they fancy it.
First time any country has hit Israel because they were attacking Lebanon, you would imagine Iran's standing in the region has been enhanced greatly now. It's good to see someone have the guts to stand up for the little guys.
Maybe an agreement is close and Netanyahu knows it, who knows.
yeah iran 93 million pop. is standing up for the little guys - kuwait, bahrain, uae will buy that
Israel and the US started this war. Israel continued bombing Lebanon. A Serbian UNIFIL peacekeeper was killed in a missile attack in Beirut a few days ago.
The attack on the Elbit linked plant was illegal but they sold weapons then the Israeli war machine.
Pew Poll just out. Israelis widely viewed negatively including in Europe and obviously the Muslim world. But even in the US, 60% view them negatively and 65% in Canada.
One could say all the aggression started when the US listened to the UK and initiated the coup in 53.
Imagine the difference in the world view had the US taken out the leaders of Iran when they were butchering the protesters back in January and just stood back. Very few would criticize it. But the US let them be slaughtered and then made up an excuse (well I've yet to hear the actual final reasoning) and attacked Iran in February.
"Or how about Iran enriching huge amounts of nuclear material to a high level and lying about it?"
You're right, Barack Obama should have made a deal that stopped and limited this during his term.
If you're going to ask disingenuous questions, you'll get disingenuous answers.
Also, why does Israel get to have a nuclear weapon and Iran doesn't?
Nobody wants Iran to cease existing. Israel on the other hand …
although DJT has flirted with the idea…
looks like israel to delay their response to iranian missile attack after Trump intervention
Well Israel was so geographically small at first it could be wiped out quite easily .
They attempted to do this at the outset of the State being set up by the UN and had to fight for their existence.
Israel seems to have got around the Nuclear non-Proliferation Treaty by never admitting they did in fact have nuclear weapons (imprisoning a whistleblower ,Mordecai Vanunu many years ago now)
There is no logical reason other countries in tge region could not do the same but 2. 3 or 4 wrongs do not make a right.
However it looks as if it may not be possible to prevent Iran from gettng its own nuclear weapon and I really do not know how that scenario would play out,although it can be argued it is by far the lesser of two evils if Iran just controls the Strait of Hormuz since that seems to give it more leverage than nuclear weapons capability.
I fear that Israel may have overplayed its hand if it has now apparently lost the popular support of nearly all countries around the world and we may be looking into the dismal repeat of the persecution of the Jews across the world once more after they lose control of their homeland if that comes to pass in the medium term
(Are we looking at the decline of American influence too ?)
So one country can't lie about the enrichment of nuclear material, but the other side can lie about having actual nuclear weapons. Got it.
Also, there's only one country in the Middle East that is committing genocide against a people, and it's not Iran.
Comparing Israel to the jews is like comparing nazi Germany to the Christians. Israel is hated because of the atrocities it is commiting not because of the dominant religion in Israel.
I didn't do that.Israel and the Jews are different ,even if related.
If the State of Israel is destroyed (as I fear it may well be) then the Jews will no longer have a Homeland.
People's attitude to them will likely just revert to type and they may find themselves unwelcome in one country after another no matter how hard they try to blend in .
That is the lesson of history .
But no ,I was not saying that Israel is the same as the Jews -even less so are the Jews represented ,or advantaged by the current government in Israel.
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Israel is hated because of the atrocities it is commiting not because of the dominant religion in Israel."
Israel is hated because of the atrocities it is commiting not because of the dominant religion in Israel.
I think so.but it is not unique in pursuing hateful policies. Its enemies are no better and its friends would likely pursue equally hateful policies in their unenviable place.(Look at Trump's plans for the Riviera della Gaza)
