Donald Trump the Megathread part II - Mod Warning updated in OP 12/2/26

Lets try to think this through.

After the war leveled on them by US and Israel, Iran found that despite the overwhelming military might of the US ans Israel Iran had a trump card in tjat the strait, and their ability to block it, gave them immense economic leverage.

Leverage that would have other countries place increasing pressure on the US to find a way out.

The problem for Iran always was how long could they hope to keep the strait closed g8ven that US would look to neutralise their ability to launch attacks.

With this move by Trump, the US is now going to blockade meaning Iran don't have to do anything and the blame lies solely with the US.

One might almost start to think that Teump hasn't really thought this war through

His thinking is so obviously Mafia Don on this move.

Instead of Iran extorting money from ships to passing through through the strait, he’s decided America should control the strait.

In the next day or two, he’ll announce he’ll open the strait, but o oh to ships who pay the US a “security levy” for policing it.

Why should Iran extort money, while America can instead?

like who? Germany were so upset about Isreal getting kicked out of Eurovision they said they would boycott themselves in solidarity with Isreal.

Ok buddy. And who is taking on this bombing role? Ireland? So it’s not ok for Israel to bomb women and children but it’s ok to carpet bomb Israel. Two wrongs don’t make a right.

You sound like a raging lunatic as bad as any Israeli calling for carpet bombing and wiping out a country

Everyday, I think “surly this can’t get worse”.

Everyday, I am wrong.

I know....its the shitshow that just keeps on evolving into an even shittier **** show ....all presided over by **** for brains himself.....

You also have to just laugh at the so called negotiations in Pakistan. Sending Kushner and Vance clearly indicated the US wasn't very serious. On top of that Trump was saying that they negotiated for a long time…..21 hours. We have longer negotiations here in this country by unions about bus drivers working conditions or whether teachers will do in class assessments. The US had zero interest in a deal and the one Trump announced on Tuesday never really existed in the first place.

Is there anything to be said for another blockade- Fr Ted probably.

All Trump needs is a modern day Farrugut, especially given the meaning of torpedo at the time of the eponymous lad.
Bonus points earned if he actually sends in DDG-99 1st at the head of any effort to force the strait.

Completely disingenuous framing here @Manic Moran . This argument assumes Iran has to defeat the US military in a straight naval contest to keep leverage. That is false.

Hormuz is about whether commercial traffic and oil throughput return to normal. They have not. this war began when the U.S. and Israel launched strikes on 28 February, not because Iran randomly woke up and chose chaos. Trump prolonged it now by turning a fragile ceasefire into another escalation point, vowing a blockade instead of de-escalation.

So this “Iran would be foolish to respond” line misses the point completely; Trump lit the fire, kept pouring fuel on it (excuse the pun), and now wants to posture as the adult in the room.

So no, Iran does not need to sink US warships to keep bargaining power. Mines, drones, missiles, insurance risk, and shipowner caution are enough to keep the strait economically disrupted. And Trump’s Europe rhetoric is nonsense on the actual barrels as Ive stated already

Iran are in an even stronger position now; all they need do is sit back and allow the USA to blockade the strait altogether, then China takes action because they are most directly and immediately squeezed, and Trump will be in a worse position than Epstein was in August 2019. He TACO'd when Putin sent oil to Cuba and with all else, and he'll TACO again when China slaps him, and he'll TACO when he next threatens Cananda and threatens Greenland/Denmark and threatens Europe again, because hes a pedophilic deviant. However he is damaging peoples livlihoods globally, far beyond his voter base in the shacks of red-state USA, he needs to be gotten rid of.