How do people feel about this one? Will it be short and sweet?
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Did anybody who was getting a skip due to local bargaining clause get this applied to payroll yet and backdated pay?
wondering should i query this or leave it for awhile. i believe it has to be manually done
I am due one also. Rang them Friday and the NSSO are saying the have not explicitly got a direction from DPER to apply the skips. Quite strange considering the circular that went out. Personally I would imagine it is because they have not got the resources to do it at the moment but maybe no harm ringing yourself and seeing what they say.
Was just about to ask the same question in relation to the skips, good to know no one has had them applied yet.
Im also wondering if you have availed of skips under previous pay agreements at CO level, do you then avail of the skips under this pay agreement at EO level?
Yes you do. Separate grade.
Has the 1 per cent local bargaining from Sept 25 for local authority admin workers Grade 3 to 7 been determined? Forsa haven't provided any substantial updates.
no, I think you only ever avail of two skips.
Plus the skip from the local bargaining when applicable
I sent them an email the other day to see if they knew when my backdated skip 11-12 from September 25 would be applied. I await a response.
RTE news : Unite accuses Govt of 'dragging its feet' on pay deal
http://www.rte.ie/news/business/2026/0330/1565793-unite-pay-ireland/
I had the union ring me last week and appears to be a widespread issue. They are chasing it up with DPER
not a peep about local bargaining for local authority staff. and they're already talking about the next agreement
I got a similar respone to a poster here from NSSO they are still awaiting instruction and will issue a circular/update in due course. didnt explain why the delay. the union made announcement in february now almost April. How can they not implement the local bargaining clause if was agreed?
Anyone know anything about local bargaining for the engineering and accounting civil service grades?
I certainly would like them to progress to negotiating the next agreement and not wait on the DPER to come back on local bargaining claims.
the local authority pay scales don't necessarily map onto what was agree for civil service grades. i don't believe anything has even been agreed.
at least for the duration of the current agreement, the very least they can do is honour the existing agreement.
The DPER should honour their agreement. However, we’re in a position that local bargaining has not been agreed and the deal is about to come to an end. The Unions should be pushing forward for a new deal which will contain the 2% local bargaining already agreed. Grades that have not received the 1% yet can simply receive it during the duration of the next deal.
It’s certainly not ideal but the priority is the next deal. We shouldn’t be waiting
it's a bit shocking. though my worry about a new deal would be we're not going to see a cent until january, with a lot of backdated pay
it's annoying for workers always playing catch up. in 2022 when costs really start to spiral it was years before people started seeing anything.
the way things are going up cost wise, think it's going to be very hard get a deal, a few % really wont be enough for most, especially those on lower grades.
Some here said that for the last deal and 90+% endorsed it
I think it is being negotiated at the worst possible time. There is no clarity on how the next few weeks let alone years will play out. The DPER will want something quite conservative, the unions will (or should) be pushing for lost ground over the last few years on top of whats to come.
This thread is an echo chamber and not reflective of how union members vote at all. Some of the demands being made on here were absurd. Saying that, I do think the Unions are in a tricky spot with this one and the current government have shown themselves to be tricky to deal with. The election being several years away doesn't help, they'll likely be firm now because there are no repercussions.
Still awaiting the local bargaining clause to be applied to payscale here:
The increment jump related to 1ST September 2025 has yet to be applied. There is no time-frame available at the moment. The NSSO is reviewing the circular and the accompanying FAQ document that issued.
The excessive delay in paying out increases (even though they eventually get backdated) is a financial loss in itself and not acceptable.
Having part of a deal not paid out until a year or two into the next one, which is what it looks like now, is frankly a joke
But under this deal and the couple before it, "catching up" was an illusion anyway. CS and PS are getting poorer over time and it's hard to see that trend reversing.
According to Forsa last week at the online seminars the Government are not too keen to start talks and have intimated that we got too much in the last pay deal. Obviously you could take that with a pinch of salt as an opening position on the Government side.
my issue isn't necessarily with the backdating. the civil service at least have something on paper. local government haven't gotten anything!
are the NSSO the ones responsible for translating the civil service agreement to local government scales? literally no idea what's going on
No, the NSSO will be the ones implementing the deal for most of the civil service. They have nothing to do with the local government deal.
Talking to a friend in a government agency, theirs were implemented across the board and backdated in January. They just went with a flat increase at the top of every scale that wouldn't be considered upper management.
It is a money saving manoeuvre from the government, the same way if you owe money but there is no interest on it, the longer you keep it, the less it costs you. The obvious other issue is that if left to long, they will try to tie it media wise as part of the the next deal visually.
The unions would be foolish not to be putting the boot in now behind closed doors as the government can't take much more negative publicity. Letting them force you to wait is playing into their hands.
too much in the last pay deal are they having a laugh they still havent paid all the agreed local bargaining
after taxes and inflation the last payrises are almost useless
they will have to do better
the govt would be wise to a deal now before inflation rockets later in the year
I think they'll say global economy in big trouble, feck the lot of you, go on strike.
thats grand but the unions will actually go on strike this time
wages are being eroded by inflation
tax bands have not even been indexed in the last budget
