https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2025/jun/13/israel-iran-strikes-defence-minister-tehran-middle-east-live
Reports stating that Israel have launched an attack against Iran
“outside of a single example earlier in this thread I doubt normal people get excited at the prospect of millions of refugees being created”
More lies. You misinterpreted a post earlier in the thread (I suspect deliberately) and are using it as some kind of straw man to suit your argument. Everybody else knows what that poster was referencing. Why misrepresent it? More bad faith posting surprise surprise.
A measured and firm fascist then rather a blundering one (as it happens, the President has little power in Iran though the fact that he's still alive suggests the Yanks and Israelis maybe see him as someone they can deal with). I'm sure the families of those killed by the regime in January and in general will be happy to confirm how 'firm' its placeholders are.
All three sides in this conflict are murderous fascists who seem determined to turn the Middle East into a burning wasteland. The fact that the Iranian regime sounds sane compared to Trump (as almost anyone would) is hardly worthy of comment.
The Shah was installed in a CIA coup. The Iranians want the removal of the Zionist regime in Tel Aviv. The Israelis want the removal of the Islamist regime in Tehran. Which of these do you disagree with?
What part of "Death to Israel" is not clear? And what is the Israeli equivalent for Iran?
A Houthi blockade of the narrow waterway would force oil and trade vessels to reroute around Africa, raising shipping costs, fuel prices and inflation worldwide while deepening an oil crisis following Iran's blockage of the Strait of Hormuz. For the US, it would mean higher domestic energy costs and greater economic strain; globally it would send oil prices soaring and slow growth.
The only upside is that the US may give up on the misadventure sooner rather than later, and Israel then may give up attacking Lebanon.
If Shannon's being used by the US then we're not 100% neutral either.
Neutral ports have been available for temporary access not directly related to action to other states basically since the concept of neutrality existed.
Hell, famously the Admiral Graf Spee hid in Montevideo for a period directly escaping from a British fleet, and had their sailors treated in hospitals etc. and were allowed to stay there unmolested for 72 hours. They only scuttled the ship cause they couldn't repair it enough to again fight the British fleet in time.
Really, the average joe wouldn't agree with you. Maybe they're turning on Trump for show.
How?
Well it is looking worse and worse for USIsrael. The Houthis can and will add a lot of firepower + 100,000 troops. Israel pounding Lebanon while they have little to no air defence to protect themselves from Iran. Madness
No evidence, except multiple statements from Israeli officials and statements like this from the US ambassador to Israel
But you keep the lies up.
the houthis troops are irrelevant - missiles are all they really offer, which is a lot. They can close shipping in the red sea by hitting a few tankers and causing insurance to spike.
Also missiles from yemen to israel will mean another angle for limited air defense assets to cover.
100k troops is not exactly irrevelant.
israel apparently only getting started on hezbollah according to IDF chief
houthis would be wiser to stay out of and give trump an out ramp rather than completely dragging the US and possibly other countries in if waterways blocked
I take it you don’t watch the news.
Lebanese President Joseph Aoun says that Israel's attacks on bridges in the south of his country are a "prelude to a ground invasion", Lebanon's National News Agency reports.
In a statement, he condemns "Israel's targeting and destruction of infrastructure and vital facilities in southern Lebanon, particularly the Qasmiyeh bridge over the Litani River and other bridges."
The statement adds that the attacks "represent a dangerous escalation and flagrant violation of Lebanon's sovereignty, and are considered a prelude to a ground invasion".
He calls on the international community to "take immediate measures to deter Israel from carrying out this attack".
He watches the Israeli news over there in Tel Aviv...
Yes, I do. Israel obviously decided to stop dealing with the puppets and start dealing with the puppeteers.
Speculation that tomorrow could be a black Monday for the markets unless trump rows back on his war crime threat.
Tomorrow is absolutely key. He gave them false hope 2 days ago by suggesting they may cease hostilities soon.
Hopefully so or Trump will seek to destroy Iran on Tuesday.
Its purely a state of mind. Theres no hard or fast rules to it. It can mean many thing's to many people.
I take a purely objective view of it. If you aid my attacker in any way to inflict harm on me then youre not an innocent bystander.
Ireland's role is much much less than the gulf states of course but if we bordered Iran then they would be entirely within their rights to lob some missiles our way imo.
It is not a state of mind. There are legal definitions behind it and Iran would be within no rights whatsoever to do that. They might think they are but it would be every bit as rampantly criminal as whatever Israel are up to.
At least Iran,have some excuse for their retaliation strategy by the fact that their senior leadership being killed, what is the excuse for Israel and US?
If Trump does destroy the power plants in Iran it will by magnitude much worse than Iran has done to the gulf states.
ultimately trump cant walk away with the clerics in iran looking stronger than when he started - its a bit like putin in ukraine how do you get yourself out once a war starts
Iran outline what it's response will be if it's power plants are attacked on Tuesday morning.
I live in the real world. Im not sure where you live.
Ok. In the real world there is nothing stopping US/Israel doing what they are currently doing and we may as well all just accept it. Realpolitik is also a two way street.
It is so utterly pointless to rail against one nation breaking international law and follow it up with proclaiming another nation would be perfectly entitled to. There very clearly are hard and fast rules regarding the obligations and duties of neutral states. A lot of time and effort was invested in them.
But you are clearly more interested in a vibes based rules system so it seems pointless to correct you.
There is something that could stop the United States illegal actions. Economic pressure by keeping the strait shut.
That Trumps reaction to this is to threaten a war crime of damaging the civilian power grid shows how desperate he is.
Well the ayatollah regularly made pronoucements about how Isreal will fall soon, is a cancer etc (similar sentiments have been posted on here in recent days too. Weird)
But aside from this, Zionism = the belief that Israel should exist. In what world is the leadership of Israel supposed to be anything other than zionist? So a non zionist Israel would be led by a government that thinks the country has no right to exist? Doesn't really make sense does it?
