https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2025/jun/13/israel-iran-strikes-defence-minister-tehran-middle-east-live
Reports stating that Israel have launched an attack against Iran
No they weren't - the original attacks were very explicitly not coming from most of these countries. Iran has attacked countries that don't even have US bases, it is a complete scattergun terror campaign by them.
Iran targeting civilian infrastructure in basically every single surrounding gulf state is against the rules. This is not remotely debateable - it is a statement of fact. It is amazing to me how quickly people abandon all principles when they choose to have a dog in the fight. Ukraine isn't blowing up random hotels in Belarus, Iran or North Korea. Iran is acting precisely like the terrorist state they are.
You can oppose the US/Israeli action without supporting the absolute cretins in Tehran.
Probably for the best, sounds like the crew were suffering. Flies in the face of the poster who was referring to any negative press around the ship as being garbage.
It Would be like blaming the IRA for guerrilla tactics. The US/Israel are the aggressor.
Aided by the gulf states facilitating bases being used to launch attacks on Iran.
Irans asymmetrical response is perfectly reasonable and their only route to success.
I dont like any of the regimes. But theres only one country defending its borders from outside attacks and thats Iran.
What countries has it attacked that dont have US bases?
Several analysts have pointed out that international law is totally on Iran's side. It was illegal for the US and Iran to attack them, but perfectly legal for Iran to defend itself by striking back at US and Israeli military targets. Laws of self defence apply to them but not to the two aggressors.
Just to be clear, are you supporting the IRA bombing campaign now? Cause that seems like a terrible analogy to make to defend your point.
The attacks were not launched from most of the Gulf states that have been the victim of attacks. Iran is just systematically targeting civilians in previously uninvolved countries which, to me at least, is a pretty reprehensible response. "they were forced into it" or "it is all they can do" seem like pretty terrible justifications.
Iran is acting like the purveyor of terror it has always been.
You can denounce the US/I action without supporting Iran. This seems pretty basic.
Trump and Netanhanyu know that if they can get Nato members driving boats in Hormuz, they can be hit (standard Israeli false flag like the missile sent by a Mossad cell into Turkish airspace) and drawn into the war. Every other Nato member should be reminding Trump all he has to do to open the Hormuz is to stop the war.
no, it would be like blaming the IRA for attacking civilian targets. There is a massive difference between attacking an army patrol and planting a bomb in a shopping centre, just as there is between launching a drone at a US air base and a hotel.
Which IRA bombing campaign? The one for independence or the one for civil rights?
So no countries attacked by Iran without US bases? Thats what i thought.
So tell me, was it the US mainland that the initial attacks on Iran were launched from?
Azerbaijan for one. Oman has a base but was attempting to broker a peace deal and got attacked for its efforts.
These US bases were not used for the attacks on Iran for the most part and importantly, the Iranian response frequently has not targeted the US bases, but random civilian infrastructure.
Dubai airport which was repeatedly attacked was used to attack Iran? Do you have any evidence
Edit: someone else addressed that post
The thing is Trump has absolutely had a long term negative impact upon NATO. Be it via his Greenland rhetoric, strategically disastrous attack on Iran and now threats of invading Cuba and his apparently fawning over Putin.
Israel and the US attacked Iran which is against international law. Iran has the right to defend itself under international law
Jebel Ali Port
there was a lot more attacked in Dubai than that port (no evidence it was used in run up to this war)
From hotels to dataceters to apartments to airports and that’s in Dubai alone
by attacking anyone but Israel and US? Yeh that’s some logic there
It does not have the right to target civilian infrastructure in non-belligerent states.
This isn't sport, you don't have to "support" one side.
I dont t know if the Azirbaijan hit was deliberate but fair enough. No base but there is history and strategic importance to the airport. But ok, you found one country.
US base in your countries are targets. Simple as that.
Iran have been extremely vocal about hitting US assets in every country they can if they were attacked.
So instead of trying to broker negotiations that the US broke, not Iran.
How about dont house US bases?
Or if you do, then accept your country is fair game.
Fair enough, I got that one wrong. Then the Israelis and Americans are merely as bad as Russia,not actually worse. A fine achievement
What about Crete ?
For the third time, and to repeat what is insanely obvious, they are not targeting US bases. It is a simple terror campaign and I can not believe anyone is supportive of it. Stop pretending to care about international law if this is your response.
Azerbijan was quite possible a false flag
Everything in Iran is being attacked. Schools, buildings, homes, energy facilities etc.
ALL from gulf state positions. Do you know where US mainland is in comparison to Iran?
Pull Up a map, it might help you understand.
i don't bleive Iran attacked Crete.
They’ve hit plenty of bases. Their infrastructure and civilians are being targeted from gulf states. Not from US mainland.
Stop pretending you care about logic if this is your response.
Must be a legitimate target though seen as it is being used as a logistical base for the Us navy.
You would concede though that the main way it can defend itself against the two aggressors is to strike military targets in Israel, plus US military assets in the Gulf? They don't really have any capacity to shoot down US and Israeli warplanes (which again would be perfectly permissible under international law).
I didn't realise your overriding logic was civilian attacks are fine and dandy as long as you hit the odd military target. Feels a little like this is in complete opposition to the (correct) viewpoint on Israeli actions.
You don't have any logic to care about. Iran is quite clearly attacking civilian infrastructure in states that were not involved in the attack on Iran and you are trying to defend that.
You would concede though that the main way it can defend itself against the two aggressors is to strike military targets in Israel, plus US military assets in the Gulf?
Absolutely. They should go nuts.
Where are the attacks coming from?
