https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2025/jun/13/israel-iran-strikes-defence-minister-tehran-middle-east-live
Reports stating that Israel have launched an attack against Iran
Are they not allies to the US? If so they're legitimate targets.
Guerrilla warfare against whom? There ain’t Americans or Israeli troops to perform guerrilla warfare against in Iran
your argument is nonsensical and based on romantic notions the Left holds of their deplorable regime of the day being some sort of “guerrillas” fighting for some sort of revolution, can you think of any wars where “guerrillas” couldn’t actually reach their attackers and instead chose to attack innocent neighbours and how those ended up
The word you are looking for is terrorism and terrorists not guerrillas, that’s what terrorists do, take innocents hostage(execute a bunch to make headlines) in the hope it impacts their targets. Which is what Iranian regime is trying to do, take the whole region hostage economically, but it will just result in resentment and hate and a coalition forming against them.
Its guerrilla warfare essentially. They cant beat the US in conventional warfare.
Youre spectacularly wrong with comparisons to WWI/II.
Every two bit dictator in the world is looking at what the US and Israel did in Iran and wondering, could I do that next door with drones and missiles? It sets a horrible precedent.
It means countries here in Europe need to get more serious about defending themselves {something the far left and our president constantly moan against} and need stronger alliances and institutions that can stand up to Trumps and Putin’s of this world like the EU {whom the likes of Sinn Fein and others on far left and far right absolutely despise and want gone}
and other countries who consider themselves neutral (ahem) need to have a national conversation about what neutrality means in a world without rules
Iran says it has the right to respond to the UK's decision to allow the US to use British bases
"These actions will definitely be considered as participation in aggression. We reserve our inherent right to defend the country’s sovereignty and independence"
Currently they are flying the big bombers through Gibraltar not over land, then through Saudi to attack Iran. Not great news for Cyprus with the tourist season about to get underway if they start at those bases
No.
But I've watched repeatedly saying "Trump would never do that!", only to be followed "I can't believe Trump did that!".
The writings on the wall, or at least the tacky gold sprayed tamu filigree he's stuck up all over the white house. King Trump.
I'd agree with you on the second part, Israel in the minds of many people maybe seen as a pariah state , but they won't be by most western powers . The fact we haven't seen them isolated politically by the EU at this point says it all. I previously thought that was due to the EU being afraid of the reaction from the Americans, but if we look at what happened over Greenland, we saw the EU and Canada was well able stand up to America over that.
And what does this mean for any country within striking distance of America?
Danish soldiers flown to Greenland in January were prepared to blow up key airport runways over fears that US President Donald Trump could invade the Arctic island, Denmark's public broadcaster DR says.Citing sources in the Danish government and military, and also among European allies, DR says blood supplies were also brought in to treat the wounded in the event of fighting.
Danish soldiers flown to Greenland in January were prepared to blow up key airport runways over fears that US President Donald Trump could invade the Arctic island, Denmark's public broadcaster DR says.
Citing sources in the Danish government and military, and also among European allies, DR says blood supplies were also brought in to treat the wounded in the event of fighting.
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c33ln4mp1p2o
If you don’t want to look at WW2 of why this “strategy” Iran chose is supremely idiotic, look further back to WW1
Defending the spread of misery and war wider and wider onto less and less deserving parties is incredible form of warmongering imho
Attacks on Iran from gulf states. Iran responds by attacking gulf states.
Its very straightforward logic when you think about.
Bringing up Hitler....
This is why Bibi was keen for Larry to buy Tik Tok to reverse this thrend. He admitted to pro Israeli influencers Israel was losing the propaganda war.
Ah great Godwins law invoked, though probably not for the first time in this thread.
I cant wait for Trump to wake up and say something dumb regarding the war.
Ask Hitler how his strategy of declaring war on everyone and everything ended up for his thousand year reich, it’s a terrible strategy that will end in tears for the Iranians
And that’s before we get to what it means for neutral undefended countries with ties to US like Ireland
Do you realise how deeply tied he is to the zionist movement in America? I believe both Bibi and Putin have dirt on Donnie. If that is the case there is no way he will turn on either of them even if he wanted to.
Out of curiousity have you watched the interview with Joe Kent on Tucker Carlson's podcast.
The gulf states are not neutral. They house US bases that are being used to paunch attacks.
Theres plenty to dislike about the Iranian regime. Not to mention US/Israel regimes.
But Irans response to attack Gulf states makes both strategic and ethical sense.
Israeli tanks now gathering on the Lebanese border - under the cover of Trump bombing Iran and Iran blasting every Arab state within its reach, Netanyahu follows his own true war agenda - to grab Southern Lebanon - minus its people, its businesses, its buildings. A fine mess you’ve gotten the whole world into Donald. The bigliest ugliest stupid ist mess.
They are both pariahs
but there seems to be a bizarre belief from those defending Irans attacks against all their mostly neutral neighbours, that these attacks would somehow result in all those neighbours uniting and marching onto Jerusalem like the Arabs have done in the multiple wars against Israel in 20th century
Instead of appreciating that the outcome of all these economies and polities being fundamentally threatened to their core in an Arab word whom want nothing more than continue living in their cozy prosperity, would most likely instead result in them uniting against Iran and their scattered bands of terrorists
80% of mid east oil goes east not west, this self hatred of ourselves by the far Left is bizarre, especially since it lumps us in Ireland with wildly different countries
When are those so ashamed of being “westerners” put their mouths where their rhetoric is and move to such great bastions of liberal democracy like China etc?
And the world's oil supply will finally dry up.
Perhaps western powers insatiable appetite for cheap oil blinded them to the negatives of puppet regimes.
Btw the mullahs supported the shah against communism.
Perhaps Iran and Israel are both pariahs and will be in conflict with their neighbours for the next few decades.
Put yourself in the shoes of the average Mohamed on the ground if this war continues like this for months or even years in any of the states being attacked by Iran regularly, states like Oman, Saudi, UAE, Qatar, Bahrain, Kuwait, Iraq, Jordan, Turkey, Azerbaijan, Pakistan
Your apartment was bombed by Iranian shaheed drones, you know people who are dead or injured, you heard that Iranians (just like Assad and Russians in Syria, or Russians in Ukraine) are now lobbing chemical weapons, your job is gone as your industry {tourism, transport, chemicals, finance} is shutdown, the state can’t fill coffers from energy etc exports as those factories got hit by missiles so energy and taxes went up
Are you gonna blame
I don’t think those cheering Iran and Co have thought this one through as to what catastrophic mistake it was to attack neighbours who didn’t want to be dragged into this war
That is where you are wrong, Iran is the problem.
For a start, Iran has been financing and supplying terrorist operations across the region for decades. No sensible person can conclude this isn't a problem. Secondly, Iran has turned on its neighbours and allies. Qatar is shocked by the attack on its gas field by Iran and fully blames Iran. They have lost nearly 20% of the country's revenue for the next five years. Iran most definitely is a huge huge problem for them.
Up til rabins assassination by a Zionist there may have been hope for a two state solution.
After Ariel sharon provoked war and Bibi was in his ranks.
I won't be surprised if they destroy the al asqa mosque to rebuild the temple.
Iran is not the problem - Israel started the war. If Israel still exists in 20-30 years time, it will still be bombing its neighbours - its history since the early 1970s at least has been to be in a permanent state of war. It will always just be 'one war away' from peace and stability.
What do you think will be the opinion of the millions of gulf residents across a dozen mostly neutral neighbours that Iran attacked and continues day after day attacking civilian housing and economic infrastructure like refineries
If they continue to be attacked for months and years without any hope of a better future?
They not gonna blame Israel or US while it’s their fellow Muslims with Russian help killing them (just look at Syria and Syrians where this happened already)
it’s mad how Israel a country of 10 million people is able to mess up the whole worlds economic stability not to mention murder tens of thousands of people and can get away with it although countries in Europe and elsewhere are getting sick of them
We cant only speculate who will replace Yahoo based on what we see in our news. Which by the way are heavily censored. There are anti government and anti war protests in promised land which are dispersed by police using heavy handed approach and this is heavily censored. He wont go for election any time soon since this war is the only thing which keep him out of prison. Even Trump tried to insert himself in that calling for amnesty for his yahoo friend.
Operation Epstein Fury continues unabated for the next few weeks until they run out of ammo.
I dont think it's about winning, as Israel constantly seem to claiming they are doing this. Its about at the end of the bout of conflict, leaving your enemy to fight another day, which Israel and the US seemed to be guilty of, the last few years.
America won in Afghanistan for twenty years , and then were defeated.
The Gulf States are already convinced of the need to get rid of the Iranian regime. They know that the regime cannot be allowed to survive.
Trump has been accused of a mistake by rejecting his allies and friends. At least he didn't fire missiles at his friends and allies like Iran did. Colossal stupidity on their part.
Posters talk about Israel being hated in the region for decades, they have attacked Iran, Lebanon and Syria. If they get hatred for attacking three countries, what do Iran get for attacking many more?
Yet, I am told that Iran are winning.
