https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2025/jun/13/israel-iran-strikes-defence-minister-tehran-middle-east-live
Reports stating that Israel have launched an attack against Iran
Where are you getting this information? I cannot for a moment think Israel is suffering food shortages. There is zero chance of civil war there. Or Hezbollah taking Israeli territory. The information vacuum is probably being filled by folks that haven't a clue.
Tariffs from the US is small fish in the sea. The biggest thing is this war escalating and the knock on effects of that. What we need is someone to bring stability.
Israel may not need the pretext, but it will sure utilise the actions of Hez for such. It gives them propaganda cover.
So, my question still stands: what benefit to the Lebanese people do the military actions of Hezbollah provide?
This is like my 5 year old when they get something wrong, so change the question so they get the answer they want.
Many of the displaced in Lebanon come from the Galilee area that was cleared by Israeli terrorism.
What's that word hitler used for breeding space?
They don't need a pretext though, it's just another excuse to try to expand territory and kill Lebanese people. They've been doing it for decades.
Yair Netanyahu, Bibi's son, has "from the river to the sea the Israeli flag is all you see" on his X page. Yet if anyone here speaks similar sentiments in favour of Palestine you're labelled anti semitic. It's a joke. I do want a Palestine state from the river to the sea where Jews who reject Zionism are welcome to live alongside native Palestinians.
Their are videos coming out indicating that law and order are starting to break down in Israel. Talk of food shortages as well with the possibility of a humanitarian crisis if this continues indefinitely. People cooped up in shelters for two weeks now. No sign of Bibi. Early unconfirmed reports of Hezbollah taking towns in northern Israel.
Iran, apparently, has issued an evacuation order for parts of Tel Aviv warning they will be rendered uninhabitable after strikes. The US & Israel have been carpet bombing Iranian cities causing mass casualties. Iran, from what we can tell so far have attempted to strike civil and military infrastructure but there has been casualties. Iran also appears to be using ever more powerful missiles as the war goes on.
If Bibi is toast who takes the reins? No sign of David Barnea, Mossad chief or Ben Ghvir either.
If the 12 day war hadn't happened I could maybe understand Bibi taking on Iran, as daft as it seems. Jewish people tend to be extremely confident/arrogant when it comes to their own abilities and militarily they have lorded it over their neighbours. But the 12 day war caused significant damage to Israel and that was with the element of surprise in Israel's favour.
They haven't had that this time and even with U.S. military involvement Israel doesn't have the upper hand. As well as the operational cost of the war it is costing the U.S. billions in lost infrastructure, loss of military prestige and permanent losses of bases across the middle east.
IF Israel does implode into civil war it may prompt the Palestinian people to rise up against the settlers outside Israel's legally recognised borders. Talks of soldiers coming from Yemen to liberate Jerusalem. You have to think the lack of information is scaring the Israelis. One thing a settled society needs is certainty. Certainly of food supply, security and essential services. The Israeli authorities are endeavouring to control the information about what is going on inside the country. But all there doing is undermining public confidence which also could end up being undermined if they knew true reality. So it is damned if you do damned if you don't situation.
It's surreal to watch events in the Middle East play out. As much as Bibi hollered about the threat to Israel from the evil arabs it turns out he was the greatest threat to it's very existence.
I think Lebanon was originally detached from Syria by France during the French mandate there, in order to create a Christian state in the Middle East. However the demographics have completed changed there. Christians are now only 30% of the population compared to about 40% in 1979. They were maybe 70% in the 1940s.
Maybe Israel would do that, but why give them the pretext? I wonder if it's more of a case of justifying their existence to their domestic base?
Political power can work in funny ways, as I'm sure you well know.
Of course not, they're dead brown people - just slightly above the level of dead black people.
Some people will blame Mars before they'll criticise Israel.
Its a very beautiful country, lines drawn by the French 100 years ago, Palestinian refugees, Jordan kicking out the PLO, Iranian money supporting Hezbollah, a disenchanted refugee population and Syrian overlords for a while are basically what brought the country to its present situation.
The palestinians are living in refugee camps established in the 1940’s, so generations have grown up in these camps with no escape.
I mean, he has a point. But do the European leaders have even the ability to think strategically now?
Could western journalists give a useful comparison for the scale of the killing in Lebanon in terms of the Lebanese population, like this is the equivalent of 20 9/11s?
It's the actions of an expansionist regime. Even if Hezbollah did nothing the Israelis would still have invaded and killed as many as they can given the cover they have from the US in the current conflict. Like I said before, I don't support what Hezbollah are doing.
Sure, but I DO question the sense of Hez firing weapons into Northern Israel. Why? What goals could they achieve by killing the odd villager?
Their actions have only brought ruin to Lebanon, and are providing a pretext for Israeli invasion. What am I missing?
And still we'll have people posting here both justifying it and pondering why Hezbollah are launching attacks against Israel. Like I said repeatedly, for people from a small country whose modern independence was literally founded on revolutionary action against the largest empire in the world it just beggars belief that people display this level of ignorance. You don't have to agree with what they are doing to understand their motivations behind it.
Many people are afraid to criticise Israel. And with good cause.
Despite the genocide, Israel have their cheerleaders in Ireland but it's mainly easily led folks that detest/fear muslims. They don't realise that Israel could lead them into an economy with stagflation.
Israel is annexing Southern Lebanon now. They are blowing bridges on the key rivers already. They are doing their best to create another century of hatred.
Lebanon says Israeli attacks killed at least 850 people, including 66 women, 107 children, and 32 health workers, and injured 2,105 people since March 2
@TRTWorldNow (Turkish news outlet)
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My understanding is that the Lebanese government, although they have taken the step now of making Hez military wing illegal, are reluctant to move against them, for fear of splitting the army, which carries the danger of renewed civil war.
Lebanon is a fascinating country, I have to learn more details on how they have arrived at this very odd situation.
I know that Israel occupied the South, which gave rise to Hezbollah, who claim to be protectors of that Southern territory. It's really messy, but very interesting.
Indeed.
If Iran has to "compensate Ukraine for the damage their drones have done", then the US is on the hook for a much larger bill worldwide for all the chaos they've sown for the better part of a century.
So what state has killed more Irish peacekeepers than any other state?
Yeah I can't believe Trump would pull that trigger. Almost anything would be better from his and America's perspective..
I know these things operate differently in the Islamic world buyt it still makes no sense to me that he would've been chosen under those circumstances.
Maybe Anne Applebaum has loyalties that make it expedient to point the finger at Saudi Arabia rather than Israel. Her book “Red Famine” has been criticized by Ukrainian nationalists for downplaying the ethnicity of many of those involved in the Holodomor.
Yep but there are also videos showing the people coming to the streets protesting against the regime. Could but it be the same as the USSR or even the Berlin wall?
This is from Iran International - English
https://www.facebook.com/reel/1893988827868163/?fs=e&fs=e
No, those were the nationalities of the people who did the killing. As far as I know, all those deaths, obviously bar the Congo, were within the borders of Lebanon. The only Irish death recorded as caused by an Israeli was Corporal Dermot McLaughlin in January 1987, killed by tank fire. Honestly, from the amount of times the argument gets brought up, I was expecting more than one, but that shows you the value of research, I guess.
Given how prevalent FPV drones are now in Ukraine it was only a matter of time until we saw something like this.
An Iranian FPV spends several minutes flying around an American base in Iraq before destroying itself in a building
https://x.com/Osinttechnical/status/2032964990857293987
Video from the conservative NY Post of an Israeli road being hit by an Iranian missile. NB I know that the people of Gaza suffered genocide at Israeli hands. This is simply a matter of reporting news, and showing Israel is not invincible.
Also same source for Iranian attack that injured 20 Israelis 2 weeks ago.
Taking to the streets to do what? The people took to the streets yesterday to celebrate Quds day whilst missiles stike around them.
I was listening to a podcast with Anne Applebaum discussing the war and the Trump admin in general. She's somebody who has always been really on the ball when it comes to Russia and creeping authoritarianism. She said something crazy in this podcast though. When discussing the blatant corruption that Trump openly engages in she put forward the theory that Trump started this war at the behest of the Saudis because they were paying him off.
I mean….the dogs in the street know that, yes, Trump was driven to attacking Iran by a state actor but it wasn't the Saudis. In fact you have to be squinting real hard to look past the role of Israel…to the point where I can only assume that she has a massive blind spot in that regard. That's disappointing.
