https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2025/jun/13/israel-iran-strikes-defence-minister-tehran-middle-east-live
Reports stating that Israel have launched an attack against Iran
Tactically for Iran driving a barrel of oil to $200+ would not just hurt the world economy but it would have ramifications domestically for politicians and governments.
It's very much an option I imagine they are considering although it comes with pain for them too.
A quick check on the marine traffic website is showing more ships passing through, nearly all with cargo bound for India and China. China already has a 12% discount on the market price for Iranian oil in return for long term investments, and India most likely has been in touch in the days after the US sank an Iranian ship in their waters.
No doubt Iran has more leverage now that Trump has undermined the US security guarantee in the region and it's very likely individual gulf states are now negotiating with Tehran regarding permission slips.
This perception of US weakness is going to undermine every US protected regime in the region, so still scope for plenty of regional turbulence ahead in the aftermath.
For the purpose of my last post, I accepted the Iranian deathcount and showed how they have killed more of their own civilians than the Israelis/US did, yet the criticism of their actions has been muted.
Address that point rather than going after a poster.
Can you send us the sources to these human rights groups please?
If they verify 10,000, as you say, why do you continue to state it to be over 30,000?
Any deaths by a regime are horrific but multiplying the dead and using it as a propaganda tool to push your own agenda just shows no respect to those actually murdered.
Two threads. Same question. You brought it up.
A little humanity please. Now that we know the truth, a simple acknowledgement will suffice. It already speaks volumes.
You are now stalking me on several threads with the same questions.
@JohnDoe2025 please have the decency to reply here. What we write matters.
So Iran have admitted to killing 2,900 of their own civilians, while the US has killed 1,255 Iranians, including soldiers and Ayatollahs etc., yet you have greater condemnation of the US, given those figures?
And we know that far more of their own civilians were killed than the Iranians admitted to. Human rights groups have verified around 10,000.
IIran said 3117 died including over 200 police. To put in context, 7 us personnel dead and 1255 Iranians killed. Were the Iranian government to have a kill ratio like the US, 36,000 would have been killed. Maybe that's where that figure came from.
I recall a US backed Syrian rebel was film eating the heart of an assad supporter. We were told they were the good guys not to mention all the weapons that went to ISIS.
Iran said is backed terrorists turned the peaceful protests violent. If a shooter kills a police officer and the other officers fire back lots of people die. This sounds like what the Israelis/ CIA does. It's their mo.
I believe Iran before the US/ Israel but acknowledge I could be completely wrong.
Anyway, I hope that helps explain the 200 figure. 200 police.
https://www.aljazeera.com/opinions/2026/1/31/appropriating-the-death-count-manufacturing-consent-for-an-attack-on-iran
You also have Hezbollah committing war crimes by recruiting children as young as 12 and 13 to operate as child terrorists. If those terrorists are killed, we have outrage about Israel killing children, but there is never anything said about the war crimes of recruiting them.
https://rietjournal.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/01/EN_RIET_2022_N7_Child-soldiers-in-Palestinian-groups-forced-recruitment-and-use-of-minors-as-a-violation-of-International-Humanitarian-Law_daniel-perez-garcia_art2.pdf
Interesting article here about the activities of Palestinian groups in this regard.
Nothing is as simple as it is seen.
A better question would of been " how did Iran fire the tomahawk when they can't be fired from Jets " ?
Mind you Trump would of just said " well we do sell lot of ships and submarines also to other countries " no doubt.
If the price of eggs can bring down a presidential hopeful think what the price of oil could do.
It's another option but also one that's expensive and might not even be needed considering our energy needs and our natural resources. Considering the nonsense with a children's hospital, how long would it take us to get a nuclear reactor going?
I'm getting more and more pessimistic about the strait. I think Iran's only way of hoping to prevent more attacks next year is causing so much problems for the world economy this time that the cost of attacking them becomes etched in everyone's minds.
I hope I am wrong but it's their only weapon.
I think the aim would be to create a DMZ.
Sure why not…. if a fashion journalist can give the green light to the EU, who in turn gave the go ahead to the US to attack Iran, this is one of the more plausible arguments.
Is it not more the case that insurers are refusing to cover oil tankers for the journey? It's effectively closed because of a mere threat - no one will risk passing through.
UNIFIL are largely irrelevant in the current situation and in fact I think their mandate shortly anyway.
I don't think most Lebanese, including the current govt, see it as a binary choice. They want both Israel and Iran out of their politics. Hezbollah can and will remain as a domestic Shia representative group, but their military and Iranian accoutrements need to go.
Israel's constant breaches are not in doubt, but they are related to Hezbollah's continuing armed presence.
You can't claim to be a neutral country when you host an aggressors bases or assist in their supply lines.
It should be a wake up call to secure our energy requirements with renewables and batteries.
Never mention the N word eh, the one that runs green and clean France and other EU states
Does the Lenin Peace Prize still exist? I remember Sean McBride used to be lauded as the only one who had won both it and the Nobel. I'm not sure having won the Lenin one was much of a compliment.
That’s an interesting question to be asking in a month where the Iranian regime went on a spree attacking a bunch of neutral countries and their infrastructure
When are you going to retract the false accusations you have been pedalling that the Iranians were responsible for the murder of 168 people in the Shajareh Tayyebeh school bombing?
It is beyond any reasonable doubt that a US Tomahawk missile hit the school, despite your repeated disgraceful claims to the contrary.
Except when you remove the right wing lies about renewables they make fat more sense than fossil fuels and are massively cheaper to built and last decades, unlike one use fossil fuels.
Again this all falls apart when you consider who would do that and what would they gain from it? It's just right wing scaremongering and the morons that fall for it.
Lapped up by his shills into another wave of denials / whataboutery / deflection
Wow. This is very damning. It won't be forgotten that Trump tried to deny the tomahawk was theirs. Very weak. Even the right whingers in Ireland wouldn't stoop that low when caught out. Well, most of them. Iranians do double tap strikes now too? What a tangled web we weave....
Maybe it was Irish, one of those secret Tom O'Hawk missiles.
(I'll get my coat…)
I said the same in a YouTube comment and some guy came back with "Way to pivot to your pet topic". The things is, while I've very much in favour of renewables, it's not something something I think about a lot. It's just that, even leaving the environment and climate aspects aside, that fact that dependence on oil renders us vulnerable to price and supply fluctuations that depend on what the voices in some lunatic's head - English-speaking or otherwise - told him to do on a given day, means that reducing such dependence as much and as quickly as possible is a no-brainer.
Deporting illegal immigrants is what Governments are supposed to do and we better get started on it over here asap.
Comparing it to slaughtering tens of thousands of protestors in cold blood is just plain crazy and an insult to the victims.
