It would make sense. I wouldn't want him staying on post WC, regardless of outcome. 8 years is enough for any coach.
I know it's late but Jesus, - If comparing two international test teams who are playing the day after tomorrow and their respective strategies is stupid, I'd hate to see what you'd think is smart..
Utter raving. I understand your point of view (I think), but thats just change for change's sake. That team would make a new record of the biggest score ever against us.
Unfortunately it would seem that you must be on the wacky backy to see any future for this shambles of the named Irish team
Emm…didn't Australia comprehensively defeat the Springboks in South Africa soon after?
It's funny but this forum has the ability to justify anything
Let's just feast on Ireland this coming Thursday and wait for the justifications
The Springboks are clearly the better team, but to disgrace Australia who (as it transpired) had an excellent start to their season is flawed imo.
Their squad depth is a massive achilles but they outperformed expectations. So the Lions (while not equaling the sum of their parts) were up against a far stronger Australia than was expected.
Cant describe how muck an opinion that is. But all to themselves
You do realise Ireland have an identical loose trio age wise right?
I know, it’s frustrating when facts & logic wrecks you’re narrative isn’t it!
I know you like to pretend that game never happened but I’m afraid it did, SA got their asses royally handed to them that day!
Picking West, Josh Murphy, Bohan, Jansen and boyle is not going to change the future of the Irish team. Some of them are not even remotely close to international standard and others are totally unproven at European/URC LEVEL
Yes Jim Hamilton started it.
Oh god, junk journalism galore
please make it stop!!!
When the context of the conversation is the profile of players that both teams can choose from, comparing Ireland with France is utter stupidity.
If you cannot understand that, I'm afraid there is no helping you.
with respect, Squidge knows sweet f… all.
If you go into any match not knowing your detail there's a good chance you'll look pretty stupid. It could be lineout calls, it could be pod formation, it could be stuff like that, and if he doesn't know it yet, then you aren't doing the team and, just as importantly, Edogbo any favours by playing him. That said I hope, and am sure, we will see him asap.
If Edogbo doesn’t know the lineout calls after two weeks in camp, then that’s an indictment on the coaching
We constantly complain about our lack of power against teams like France and South Africa. Then when he have a big, powerful lock, we don’t pick them. Irish rugby is weird.
Incredible insight into test level coaching, thank you for passing on your hard fought knowledge and experience.
The majority of those changes are driven by retirements, injuries and Aki's ban. If those players were still fit and available there is little evidence to suggest that Farrell would change things up that much.
Look in a mirror.
I don't believe that because I don't know why any coach would willingly give up a test gig to go back to club rugby.
Going back to having 40 matches a season or whatever it is, every week from September to April. Travelling away every other weekend.
Farrell is busy January to March, a month in the summer and a month in November. Gets Christmas off essentially, long break in the summer post-tour, a long break after the 6N. I'm sure he's "working" during these times but it must be low stress stuff.
The lack of self awareness is frightening.
If I had to guess, I think there’s a good chance we’ll see him next week vs Italy.
We did, his name is Joe McCarthy
If Edogbo had to come on after five minutes in Paris, there would be a significant concern about his ability to finish the match. He has not played 80 minutes of URC or European rugby since 2023. If he cannot do it at a lower level, could he do it in a test match against France? Maybe we could have had him in the 6-2 split ahead of Timoney but no way he could be the only lock cover.
We play Italy at home next week which should be a lot less arduous, hopefully we get a look at him then.
Potentially more money, a lot less stress, and closer to home are 3 reasons I can think of. It's likely Farrell is doing a lot of paperwork outside of the international window, watching on as provincial coaches train his team and then can't get them past a world cup quarter final
England A have named their side for the game on Friday evening in Thomond:
England A:
15 Joe Carpenter, 14 Cadan Murley, 13 Luke Northmore, 12 Orlando Bailey, 11 Ollie Hassell-Collins, 10 Billy Searle, 9 Harry Randall, 8 Alex Dombrandt, 7 Jack Kenningham, 6 Ethan Roots (c), 5 Joe Batley, 4 Ben Bamber, 3 George Kloska, 2 Jamie Blamire, 1 Tarek Haffar
Replacements:
16 Kepueli Tuipulotu, 17 Archie van der Flier, 18 Afolabi Fasogbon, 19 Hugh Tizard, 20 Fitz Harding, 21 Raffi Quirke, 22 Charlie Atkinson, 23 George Hendy
Some good players in there - it's always the sign of the sheer depth of English rugby, but I don't think it's a terrifying prospect by any means, and would back the Irish side to put it up to them here. They have good pace out wide in Murley & Hassell Collins (and Hendy off the bench), and a tidy pair of half backs in Searle & Randall. Good back row too with plenty of experience and senior caps in Roots & Dombrandt and I've been impressed by Kenningham any time I've seen him.
Three guys in the side with Irish links: George Kloska, Archie van der Flier and Raffi Quirke, all of which will be captured (or re-captured in Quirke's case) by playing here (Kloska actually played in the game against Ireland A in Bristol last year too).
