New thread as the last thread seems to be broken.
You'd have to question Gasperini here.
He doesn't set his team up to service the striker at all. They're an awful team to watch. Then he starts moaning when the strikers don't score.
I was hoping this move would work out for Ferguson and I do accept that he hasn't played particularly well but the manager has to take some of the criticism for the style of play his team plays.
to an extent, but at the end of the day that’s now Hürzeler, Potter and Gasperini in a row who just had no interest in him. That’s a worrying trend at club level. It’s also not necessarily goals Gasperini is complaining about, he’s just not getting what he wants from Ev, even in terms of being a foil for their wide forwards.
I do find myself muttering ‘just move!’ when watching him loitering around, ball watching, rather than trying to find space. I wonder did he nearly develop too soon physically, and miss learning some of the strikers fundamentals? I remember training ground footage of De Zerbi literally grabbing him and repositioning him over and over again to get him where he wanted him… at the time it looked like De Zerbi being a bit of a dick, but in hindsight maybe it points towards some issues with Ev’s movement that have exasperated later managers. I dunno… but something is not right.
Latest rumour from the Italian press is Ferguson to Fenerbache.
fenerbache have two burly no. 9s on their books already who are scoring. Seems a non starter. And he doesn’t need a trip to turkey at this stage in his career.
It's either lack of ability or laziness holding him back. Unfortunately it appears to be the latter which is why he's getting under the skin of managers who seem, one after another, to be irritated by him. He needs to sharpen up fast I think.
What I don't understand is the incongruency of it all; all of the early reports in his break out season were that he had a great attitude, has a head on his shoulders, and then has the right people around him.
Then you have Gasperini saying what he's saying. It doesn't really add up for me.
Also, Potter at West Ham was under immense pressure, and doing an awful job. I don't think he had the bandwidth for breaking new players into the squad.
I wonder if we're really getting the full quotes and context of what Gasperini is saying.
To be fair, Potter has zero record where it comes to developing talent, and as you say he was always under pressure. This is pro football, it's not designed to develop kids, and most of Evans managers have been struggling to keep their own job (as most pro managers are always doing) Personally, while I'd have good time for Barry Ferguson from his playing days, I'd always question the reasoning of allowing a lad of 14 or 15 to play Adult football, and here seems to be another example of it. When a lad like Evan has the size and is thrown in like that, the tenancy can be to concentrate on the here and now, and forget about the longterm vision. Certainly, and t manager is more worried about their own skins, and not about the long term plan for the likes of Evan - the temptation for the likes of Gasperini is to use him as an example to others because he's foreign and disposal (and probably relatively expensive in Italian terms).
The kid needs to be left alone, farmed out to the continent in Holland, or a mid level German team or someplace out of the limelight, and left alone. If he farts he's all over the Irish websites, leave him alone.
Agree with alot of this.
I swear the Roma manager is attributed to a different quote after every game.
Somewhere less high profile might be better. Roma strikers have not been scoring this season generally
Gasperini seems to like shooting his mouth off about his players in public. Maybe it's not too much of a surprise he hasn't had many big jobs.
True - and he has all his own hair.
conte is the same and he’s had plenty of big jobs. There’s a culture clash at play here. Latin temperament.
Conte has had a lot of success, both in Italy and in England. This is only the second big job Gasperini has had. Inter being the other. He was sacked after only 3 months. In fairness to him, he did a great job at Atalanta.
I'm more surprised at Roma, Atalanta under Gasperini were a great team watch with goals flying in all the time whereas Roma seem to be struggling even creating chances never mind scoring.
Really thought it was gonna be a great move for him as Italian league is a bit slower to the prem but sadly looks like another wasted opportunity.
I'd be going to the Dutch league to hopefully get the confidence back.
You would think Roma are struggling this season and Gasperini was close to the sack.
Same before the qualifiers when people got very animated about any suggestion that Ferguson was anything other than Irelands best (only world class) player and anyone thinking the in form Parrott should be ahead of his was just stupid.
Andrews has really surprised me at Brentford, first job , thought they would struggle given player sales - done a fantastic job, future manager maybe in future.
I thought he was an atrocious assistant manager to Kenny but I'm glad to see him doing well in the premier league, we haven't had too many Irish managers at that level.
I wonder if your post makes any sense when considered in the context of thes preceding it.
Feels like a strong response to things people didn't say
How so? What did he do wrong as Kenny’s assistant manager? His job was to enact his bosses vision to the best of his ability, and I’ve never seen any indication he didn’t do that. The buck always stops with the manager. He’s no different to the likes of John Eustace or Kieran McKenna who get bad reputations simply by assisting unsuccessful managers, but who show what they’re made of when allowed call the shots for themselves.
Agreed. Bizarre take to call him an unsuccessful assistant manager to Kenny. Unless the poster was a member of the backroom staff they’re not in a position to judge his abilities as an AM. For all we know he could have been the best AM in the world under Kenny but you wouldn’t be able to tell as it’s obviously the manager/head coach that calls the shots.
Do you not remember that bizarre press conference when he tried to claim Gus Poyet was spying on Ireland training sessions? He tried to use it as an excuse for Ireland's dismal performance against them (twice). Also, him and Kenny together had some crazy notion of Ireland winning their nations league group.
T’was between the two games, and it wasn’t that they were spying on Ireland’s sessions, it was that Poyet had a history of having outsiders watch his own training sessions to give advice (and Poyet did have Gary Dicker over for that training session). All silly ill-advised stuff to bring up alright, but again something that would only have been said with Kenny’s encouragement. Small potatoes stuff though, and definitely doesn’t suggest one way or another whether he was a good assistant.
As for an assistant going along with his manager’s public optimism of winning a few games... he’d be a bad assistant if he didn’t do that. Heimer’s had the same bullish optimism about qualification. And why not? If you don’t try to instill belief and confidence in yourself, no one else will do it for ya.
So I’d say we’ve still no idea how good an assistant he was with Ireland (particularly in all the actually important stuff on the training ground), but obviously Brentford rated him enough as one to give him a crack at the big job
Given what he walked into at Brentford , he has done an excellent job, so far. I thought they'd get relegated , early days I know, but one to watch.
Ferguson flying for Roma tonight. Roma 3 up after half an hour. A goal and assist for Evan already.
Gasperini thinks Ferguson should have had a double hat-trick by now :)
Think of how many MOTM he would get in Serie A if he just spent a couple or seasons in the Championship/at Celtic.
It's obviously tough love from Gasperini. You don't say a player is useless and mean it and then continue to play him.
Got man of the match again. Thats his third if not fourth this season.
Think he is gone but I think he will stay abroad on loan
Ferguson return to form and fitness creating a nice problem for Heimir, who does he start up front, or play both
O'Shea having a good run with Ipswich, team doing well
It's Parrotts jersey for the foreseeable until Ferguson does something to win it back. Don't think HH does anything different untill after we're knocked out.
