https://www.theguardian.com/society/2025/sep/02/father-ted-creator-graham-linehan-arrested-over-posts-on-transgender-issues
Ridiculous stuff.
You'd think there were no real crimes in the UK to be investigated
Not sure where you got that mantra from, but almost every rights situation requires considerations of balance. Indeed, changing rooms, homeless shelters, rape crisis centres and breast feeding clinics are indeed important, and the people in charge of managing those facilities are the ones in the best position to get the right balance.
I don't think so. When these organisations are funded by the public purse, then the public gets a major say in how they are run.
Most of these discussions are predicated around the bogeyman situation of the violent thug who puts on a skirt specifically to get into a position where they can assault women. This is broadly a tabloid invention, and the people who run these important facilities are well capable of managing to ensure that these situations don't arise.
Here's an idea. Why not let the women (including the lesbians you identified earlier) who are happy to share facilities like toilets, prisons etc and sports teams with males, do that, and let the women who don't want to share them have their own toilets, prison facilities and sports teams without males?
Would you care to expand on what this means in practice please?
She didn't actually confirm that lesbians 'face abuse', but I'd certainly be interested in hearing more about what she actually experienced.
Everyone is entitled to restrict their choice of partner to whoever the hell they like or don't like. Who's suggesting that dating particular people is compulsory?
It's a bit strange to have to spell it out, but groping of breasts of a female statue is a bit icky. I'll let a few others explain it to you.
From https://www.irishtimes.com/culture/2024/02/29/groping-the-molly-malone-statue-i-find-it-disrespectful-to-our-national-monument-to-the-lady/
Monaghan’s daughter-in-law, Annemarie, visiting from the United States, agrees with him, saying that “it should be observed just like any other historic relic”.
Annemarie Monaghan: “I think it’s inappropriate for people to be touching the bosom". “I think it’s inappropriate for people to be touching the bosom of any woman, just as it would be if there was a male statue like you see in Rome or somewhere to be touching the private areas of any statue. I think it’s inappropriate and disrespectful,” she adds.
Friends and students Sophia Susay-Quinn and Rachel Duddy were also passing by.
“It probably is just reflective of objectifying women; I feel like it does just kind of speak to that a wee bit more. I didn’t really think too much of it, it must just be because it’s so normalised that I haven’t thought about it as much, but when you do question, is there a problem? Then yes, there definitely is,” Susay-Quinn says.
Sophia Susay-Quinn: “It probably is just reflective of objectifying women; I feel like it does just kind of speak to that a wee bit more". Photo: Bryan O’Brien / The Irish Times
“It is kind of disrespectful in a way,” Duddy says, “and it is ruining the statue when you see it and it just makes you think about consent and things like that.”
Cian Duggan says he has always thought the act of rubbing Molly Malone’s breasts was quite objectifying.
“It’s a little bit disrespectful to someone that I think is probably a cultural icon to us, I walk past this statue every day, there’s lovely people singing here almost daily and yet at the same time a lot of tourists flock to just cop a feel,” Duggan says.
You've been remarkably coy about what situations you think punching people in the balls is a good thing. Are you in agreement with Glinner's position on this?
I didn't bring up Cass in fairness. Someone else did. I did indeed refer to it as horseshit, mainly because it's horseshit.
If you don't like the Yale analysis, try some or all of these.
https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/26895269.2024.2328249
https://link.springer.com/article/10.1186/s12874-025-02581-7?utm_source=rct_congratemailt&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=oa_20250510&utm_content=10.1186%2Fs12874-025-02581-7
https://www.erininthemorning.com/p/new-german-swiss-and-austria-guidelines
https://gidmk.substack.com/p/the-cass-review-into-gender-identity-c27
I haven't asked anyone to 'confine' themselves to anywhere. I've pointed the slightly bizarre approach of finding highly unusual edge cases around the world, and making suggestions as to what needs to happen in Irish workplaces and colleges as a result of these edge cases.
Glinner hasn't had a good joke in over twenty years. Advocating punching people in the balls based on their choice of bathroom isn't really funny.
Except she didn't say it was a trans medical practitioner. She said it was a woman, but one who didn't meet her own personal standards of femininity. And now, years later, despite never saying a peep at a time, she's decided that 'she might have been a man' based on nothing but her own personal subjective standards of what women are supposed to look like.
I can only imagine that she'll be hugely surprised when she finds out how often male medical practitioners examine female patients.
Actually, no, the general public get absolutely no say in how services funded by the public are run, funnily enough. We don't generally run public services based on who shouts loudest. We have people who know a bit about running public services, and we expect them to get on with it.
Do we all get a veto now on who we allow to come into shared bathrooms?
So does that mean you would support lesbians who set up a dating app for lesbian women which restricts transwomen from joining?
Are lesbians doing this?
Why won't you answer the question?
And yes, lesbians who have attempted to organise women only dating events have had their bookings cancelled due to protests by transactivists and have faced harassment and threats. Women who have attempted to run women only dating apps which exclude men, including transwomen, have been targeted by transactivists (very well known court case Giggle vs Tickle). Subreddits for lesbians which attempted to be for biological women only were shut down en masse (as was the gender critical subreddit).
Do you think lesbians should be allowed exclude transwomen from dating events/apps and social gatherings, as they are not attracted to biological men?
Do you think they should be allowed exclude unattractive lesbians?
No, because they are attracted to biological women, and any lesbians should be welcome. Transwomen are not actually women and thus same sex attracted women are not attracted to them. Therefore their presence is unwanted, and they should be allowed to be excluded (much the same as gay men have a right to exclude women including transmen).
Right, so it's like you or I hosting a big tits club. Cool
Mod Edit: Warned for trolling
No, it's not as you well know. Flippant nonsense like that when women are getting threats for trying to establish boundaries shows the contempt you actually have women.
Does the presence of trans women on a dating app force anyone to date them?
It's unwanted. Lesbian women want a space for women only and not to be harrassed by men.
Answer the question;
Are lesbians entitled to restrict their choice of partner to natal women only?
Do you support their right to host dating apps, dating events, social gatherings, or online spaces that are for lesbian women only and restrict transwomen from joining?
Or do you think that is bigoted behaviour?
I firmly assert that my flippant nonsense has lead to zero threats against women. What about your flippant nonsense? I realise I'm in whataboutery territory, but I only have so much to work with. My nonsensical point was that excluding people on the basis of attraction is a stupid approach.
You think gay people shouldn't be able to restrict dating apps/social events to same sex people only? I'm not the one engaging in flippant nonsense. I have provided examples of everything I said and you're downplaying the harassment that lesbians have faced (gay men don't seem to face the same level of pushback, wonder why?).
They can choose not to date anyone who is unwanted. Dating problem solved, right?
I think gay people restrict **** all towards straight people. They have plenty of "social events" but I've yet to attend a single one that is hostile towards straight or trans people. In fairness I've never been invited to a NO TRANS lesbian party. I'd say it's great craic
Not what I'm asking. If a group of lesbian women in Trinity wanted to organise a speed dating event for lesbians, would you support their right to limit entry to biological women only?
I would never support speed dating!
I've heard gay men on datalounge complaining about transmen on Grinder. They aren't attracted to women and don't want to have to deal with them on a dating app and filter them out. I would be annoyed if I was on a dating site and listed my orientation as heterosexual and had women messaging me.
I don't understand. Did you get your accounts mixed up Tony/Andrew?
Well whatever happens, the priority should be on people not being mildly annoyed
I agree, you don't understand.
What about suing someone into oblivion to try to force them into admitting biological men into a women only dating app, as happened with Giggle vs Tickle. Tickle wasn't mildly annoyed at being excluded due his biological maleness. They decided to try and take the entire site down and make it illegal to exclude transwomen from a woman only site.
I'm afraid this is the first I've heard of Giggle. Or indeed Tickle. I'd have to diggle into it for a while before I could draw any sort of conclusion. Can we not try to keep the context window a wickly bit tigglier?
Presumably they have legislation that bans discrimination based on sexual preferences over there, similar to here. I've no idea if dating apps might fall into the narrow exceptions to this.
Either way, I'm still not sure what the problem is that you're trying to solve. If you don't want to date somebody, then you don't choose them on the app.
What's the big drama all about, unless of course the actual objective was more to do with exclusion than dating?
A trans friend of mine went to an event last summer that was marketed as a dyke night, and was warmly welcomed by the bunch of lesbian women that she hung around with for the night.
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