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There appears to an enormous divergence between how Europe and the US view the ongoing war.
Kaja Kallas the EU high representative for Foreign Affairs, states that “it is important that we continue to support Ukraine and pressure Russia. That is what we are working on”. She says those in the meeting all “welcomed the US’s push for the war to end”. Kallas adds: We all want this war to end but how it ends also matters. We must keep in mind there’s one aggressor and one victim. A complete and unconditional ceasefire must be the first step … but right now, we see no indication that Russia is ready for a ceasefire. Russia is not winding down its military machine but ramping it up. We still need to get from a situation where Russia pretends to negotiate to a situation where Russia needs to negotiate. We are getting there' She describes how sanctions on Russia have had an impact on its economy and notes some failures on the battlefield. Kallas adds: 'Putin cannot achieve his goals on the battlefield so he will try to negotiate his way there.'
Meanwhile the Telegraph reports how, 'The US army chief warned Ukraine it faced imminent defeat if it did not agree to a peace deal, according to reports. Dan Driscoll, Donald Trump’s army secretary, delivered the grim assessment during a visit to Kyiv last week in which he shared with Ukrainian officials a US-backed peace plan widely derided as a capitulation to Moscow, sources told NBC. Mr Driscoll allegedly said that Ukraine’s situation would only worsen over time as Russia continues to ramp up its aerial assault and has the ability to fight on indefinitely. He also supposedly said that the US defence industry cannot continue to resupply Kyiv with weapons and air defences at the rate required to protect the country’s infrastructure and population. ''The message was basically — you are losing,” a source told the news outlet, adding: “and you need to accept the deal.”
Who is telling the truth?
If Ukraine can't join NATO they need an iron clad "article 5" style security guarantee in any deal.
The reparations in this proposed deal are an absolute joke, Russia will actually profit from it.
Allowing them to join the EU could provide that, given that the EU also has a similar treaty to protect each other in the case of an attack.
There is only one country in or around Europe that has been sabre rattling for the past 20 years and interfering with the internal politics of other neighbouring countries. That's Russia. So spare us all your guff about security concerns. This is about the greed of two corrupt, degenerate old men. Nothing more, nothing less.
They failed a lot of benchmarks to join pre invasion, they are good bit away from that yet. The long term goal absolutely should be ascending to the EU but right now they need a iron clad security guarantee. The budapest memorandum security assurance wasn't worth the paper it was written on, they need a guarantee that if Putin invades again there is a joint military response from allies.
There is a big difference in providing a security guarantee and having Ukraine in NATO.
Bengal famine or not when the Indian people had a choice in WW2 they chose the side of the British empire and raised the largest volunteer army in history.
Churchill had his faults but the west could do with a similar galvanizing figure today.
Even Trumps plan allows Ukraine to join the EU. There is a precedent for an occupied country joining the EU i.e. Cyprus.
I find it incredulous that any sovereign nation needs to be allowed to join a trade block by a third party that isn’t even a part of said block.
There was no question of Ukraine wanting to engage in the EU accession process. Having the freedom to choose for themselves is what the Russians want to steal from them and is part of why Ukraine fights.
This being allowed to join the EU is no carrot to be offered in a «peace» «deal», it is simply the option available to any free European nation, regardless of how the Russians feel about it.
Ukraine is being treated like a Soviet satellite country.
The precedent Trump is setting is extremely destabilising. The notion this will be Putins "last territorial demand in Europe" is just as delusional as when Hitler promised it in the Munich Agreement.
Separately but relevant to the war, Brent Crude has dropped to $61. When the war started it was $137. In the 1980s, it started at $73 during the Soviet war in Afghanistan and fell to $37, which brought them to the negotiating table.
Ive heard that Trumps sanctions on the Russian oil forced Russia to sell Urals at $37 recently. Mentioned on the Silicon Curtain channel on youtube.
Trump does have a point that Europe shouldnt be buying Russian oil and gas. France has also reportedly resumed uranium shipments to Russia for reprocessing, 3 years after they were stopped.
Germany has stopped buying Russian gas at least directly. There is a problem with Indian refineries refining Russian crude and exporting it globally. The port of Jamnagar needs to be sanctioned as Newsnight showed its involvement in this.
Reports Russian fake AI videos portraying Ukrainian defeat.
Deputy foreign minister Ryabkov stating no concessions on the root causes of the conflict and goals of the SMO. All negotiations will be discussed on the basis of the agreement reached in Alaska.
So once again it's Russia that doesn't want peace, at least you know too now bricky.
You can call it a war now btw, nobody is buying the 'SMO' stuff.
I am curious to what Trump and his team agreed in Anchorage.
I hope no-one is naive enough to believe that Russia wants peace, or will sign or honour any "agreements".
**** all it sounds like
I don't think the Ukrainians have much belief in anything Trump or putin might say at this stage. Their efforts to disarm putin's terrorists continue:
https://kyivindependent.com/drones-strike-russias-cheboksary-reports-say-electronic-warfare-plant-hit-again/
Brother Bricky! You are not supposed to show your hand by called it an “SMO”. Now people will see you as a supporter of the Russian Federation, or as we affectionately called it, the “RF”
Quick! Call the Russians “Orcs” or something. Or better yet; somehow explain to everyone why it is ok for Russia to bomb children in their beds! So, how about it?
The Russians killed a woman and her child just for the craic last night
GAZ Group, one of Russia's largest carmakers, is struggling with a serious staff shortage.
A four-day workweek has been introduced at the car giant, which is one of Russia's largest industries, which has lowered wages and increased the workload. Wages cut by 20%. Thousands of workers leaving because wages are too low.
Mechanics, electricians, welders and plumbers are now leaving their jobs in Nizhny Novgorod, reports the Moscow Times."We can't live on these wages anymore. Many of us have to find other work, otherwise we won't make it," a factory worker told the Telegram channel Mash.The introduction of the four-day workweek in July has cut wages by about 20 percent and triggered a rapid outflow of staff.Equipment is being left without maintenance, which further hampers production.
Mechanics, electricians, welders and plumbers are now leaving their jobs in Nizhny Novgorod, reports the Moscow Times.
"We can't live on these wages anymore. Many of us have to find other work, otherwise we won't make it," a factory worker told the Telegram channel Mash.
The introduction of the four-day workweek in July has cut wages by about 20 percent and triggered a rapid outflow of staff.
Equipment is being left without maintenance, which further hampers production.
The crisis at GAZ and AvtoVAZ (which also also introduced a 4 day week) threatens Putin’s entire industrial machinery and risks further delaying production in an already weak economy.
@brickster69 any comment on this? what’s the rationale?
Nazi’s transporting chemical weapons to the front?
Absolute scum.
The Ukrainians should tell the Americans to go **** themselves and throw everything at the Russians.
Ukraine controls high rise buildings in Pokrovsk and is fighting south of the railroad. This is important in preventing Russia using it for logistics.
In Myronohrad, Russia now controls the south but Ukraine executed a successful withdrawal from the South which tricked Russia into thinking there was a full withdrawal leading to them attacking the north and being cut down by machine guns.
I don’t usually comment on this thread but as a daily reader, it amazes me that the constant bad faith posting by that person is allowed to continue unabated. Absolutely no interest in discussing anything, link dumping from a range of dodgy sources and twitter accounts and refusing to engage in any discussion or answer any questions put to them in response to their own posts.
Mod - warned for breach of forum charter
you'll be waiting for an answer from Orwell road
that’s what Vatniks do…
the lowest of the low scum of the Earth.
Yeah, agree.
Is there nothing boards.ie can do? Their website is being used to post messages promoting an illegal war, genocide and the murder of innocent civilians. As you correctly point out, it is not "discussion" as they do not react to other posters.
It may well be that the poster is not even in Ireland, they could be on a bot farm in Russia or even just be an AI character. But potentially it's something the Guards can look into, check the IP address etc. For example under the Prohibition of Incitement to Hatred Act ?
Paid advertising generally needs to be disclosed, so too should bot farm output. For example, if I kept posting advertisements for a particular product or brand, I'm sure I'd be banned pretty quickly. It's a discussion board, not an advertising or propaganda board.
I hope Boards.ie get brought down for platforming Russian disinformation. There's absolutely zero upside in allowing it other than cash.
Blood on your hands Boards.
I'm ok with knowing how foggy the war zone constantly is, we're seeing a real person spending over a year tracking the non takeover of a small town in Ukraine, it keeps them occupied and constantly embarrassed.
Ive flagged numerous posts for exactly those reasons.
If enough people flag these posts then maybe mods will act.
Poster is a complete shill and it devalues the thread.
I got a 24hr thread ban last week for calling out one of the long winded Vatnik posts as BS.
so go figure…
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